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Re: mic opinions
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2006, 01:27:44 AM »
Chris...USE PERIODS man...I like reading your posts, but they are hard to read because you dont punctuate.. :)


he said acoustic recording... for acoustic recording..aint much gonna top a ribbon, sound wise...and not all ribbons are figure 8 .

and they are dirt cheap(the fatheads..300 a pair!) so you could get another pair of mics on top of that!

and besides..the mics he listed have all been used over and over and over(cept the pelusos)...the community needs to be on the bleedin edge man... :) who wants to use what everone else is using??? ;D ;D




though ribbons sound excellent, I don't believe they are practical for out applications (as live PA driven tapers).  I do own a ribbon but that is in addition to my other mics.  Ribbons are fragile, limited to a single pattern (fig 8) and require high gain.  If you want a practical all around mic, go with one of the sd mics mentioned above. 

Don't get me wrong, if you have other mics in your arsenal, try a ribbon out.  But if you want a mic with versatility, go with a condensor.



Edited to add;   Oooops, see by your first post you have other mics.  If you know your situation for taping, try out the ribbons  ;D

I used a old RCA mic on a gospel/folk group in Louisville, Kentucky with an audience of 19,000 people in attendance it was the only mic on stage I had one of the best most authentic acoustic sounds I have ever heard There was 2 guitar players 1 mando a standup bass and three vocals around this one mic the sound was so good I got goose bumps. The show was in the round. I am a firm believer in ribbon mics. The only thing I would say about them is you better have a very quiet preamp to use with any ribbon mic for acoustic performance or recording. I was pretty scared that I would have feedback issues but to be honest there was none I turned up the fader I did not touch any eq on my console and the sound was there full as life.

I fixed it  :P Now you can read it. I would not want to strain your brain with my post's.
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Re: mic opinions
« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2006, 06:52:26 AM »
Man, my feeble brain needs all the help it can get!


thanks brother!
Chris...USE PERIODS man...I like reading your posts, but they are hard to read because you dont punctuate.. :)


he said acoustic recording... for acoustic recording..aint much gonna top a ribbon, sound wise...and not all ribbons are figure 8 .

and they are dirt cheap(the fatheads..300 a pair!) so you could get another pair of mics on top of that!

and besides..the mics he listed have all been used over and over and over(cept the pelusos)...the community needs to be on the bleedin edge man... :) who wants to use what everone else is using??? ;D ;D




though ribbons sound excellent, I don't believe they are practical for out applications (as live PA driven tapers).  I do own a ribbon but that is in addition to my other mics.  Ribbons are fragile, limited to a single pattern (fig 8) and require high gain.  If you want a practical all around mic, go with one of the sd mics mentioned above. 

Don't get me wrong, if you have other mics in your arsenal, try a ribbon out.  But if you want a mic with versatility, go with a condensor.



Edited to add;   Oooops, see by your first post you have other mics.  If you know your situation for taping, try out the ribbons  ;D

I used a old RCA mic on a gospel/folk group in Louisville, Kentucky with an audience of 19,000 people in attendance it was the only mic on stage I had one of the best most authentic acoustic sounds I have ever heard There was 2 guitar players 1 mando a standup bass and three vocals around this one mic the sound was so good I got goose bumps. The show was in the round. I am a firm believer in ribbon mics. The only thing I would say about them is you better have a very quiet preamp to use with any ribbon mic for acoustic performance or recording. I was pretty scared that I would have feedback issues but to be honest there was none I turned up the fader I did not touch any eq on my console and the sound was there full as life.

I fixed it  :P Now you can read it. I would not want to strain your brain with my post's.

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Re: mic opinions
« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2006, 09:11:59 AM »
I'm looking for another pair of mics.  I am able to get all these within the 7-8 hundred range.  Which would you choose?  Why?
I currently have TLII's and 451's.  Mostly record acoustic music.


Neumann KM 184's
MBHO 603/ka200n
AKG 460 ck61's
SD LSD2
Peluso's

What I really want is ck1's with the actives and some 460 bodies.  How hard are those actives to really find?  How many run them here? How did they find em?


there's an auction for violet design black finger


http://cgi.ebay.com/VIOLET-DESIGN-BLACK-FINGER-MED-DIAPHRAGM-CONDENSER-MIC_W0QQitemZ130035730778QQihZ003QQcategoryZ41466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

try and snipe it for cheap price and then buy the other black finget at odyssey pro sound for 250.


another underrated gem is the necvaton mc49 a pair could be had for 1000 bucks if you look around. :)

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Re: mic opinions
« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2006, 09:43:16 AM »
We were actually discussing the finger last night and contemplating a purchase!  there are a couple on Ebay UK for about $300 each...   ;D

I've been dying to hear the Violet Design mics myself.  The Black Knight looked kind of cool too.

OK, I'm watching this one... >:D
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Re: mic opinions
« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2006, 09:46:23 AM »
We were actually discussing the finger last night and contemplating a purchase!  there are a couple on Ebay UK for about $300 each...   ;D

I've been dying to hear the Violet Design mics myself.  The Black Knight looked kind of cool too.

OK, I'm watching this one... >:D

I/ we only own the dolly...it has a pretty sound ( for the price i bought it for). I should post a pic soon. ;D

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Re: mic opinions
« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2006, 03:59:38 PM »
Just a heads up on the Beyer mc930's.  BH has their stereo pair listed for 999 but if you add it to the cart, you get a reduced price of 765.  The catch is that they are special order so you have to wait a 3-4 weeks.  This is gonna be the lowest I believe anywhere and won't last long.  Price is going nowhere but up and quick.

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Re: mic opinions
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2006, 05:52:29 PM »
someone won a pair of violet desgn fingers for 300 bucks..wow >:D >:D

anyone here? >:D >:D >:D

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Re: mic opinions
« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2006, 06:21:42 PM »
someone won a pair of violet desgn fingers for 300 bucks..wow >:D >:D

anyone here? >:D >:D >:D

wasnt me. I dont like ugly microphones. >:D

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Re: mic opinions
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2006, 06:40:06 PM »
Dirk was eyeing these at one point.  Whether or not he bought them............... ???

someone won a pair of violet desgn fingers for 300 bucks..wow >:D >:D

anyone here? >:D >:D >:D


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Re: mic opinions
« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2006, 07:10:29 PM »
Tapermark:

I have another recomendation for you. Since you already have a LD and a SD condensor pair, maybe try a pair of the small electret omni-directional microphones. They range in price from $19 each (Naiant Studio) to thousands of dollars (Earthworks) with many inbetween (Church Audio, Sound Professionals, Core Sound etc...). I find these microphones make very life like recordings and are often overlooked for various reasons.

I do, however, agree with Teddy, that it's hard to beat a ribbon microphone for acoustic music.

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Re: mic opinions
« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2006, 07:18:22 PM »
Thanks for all the feedback guys.  I decided to go vintage.  Grabbed a pair of Microtech Gefell MV 692's w/ M70's!  :0)  I think I will get some ribbons but they are so cheap I will get some down the road.  Really wanna try em.  Cheers!

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Re: mic opinions
« Reply #41 on: October 22, 2006, 08:12:44 PM »
Thanks for all the feedback guys.  I decided to go vintage.  Grabbed a pair of Microtech Gefell MV 692's w/ M70's!  :0)  I think I will get some ribbons but they are so cheap I will get some down the road.  Really wanna try em.  Cheers!

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