Topic: microphones and magnets ?

[dean]

Um, you guys are nerds...   

[SparkE!]

Um, you guys are nerds...   

Guilty as charged.

[landshark]

i tried a simple, not so scientific test with my 460's. moving a paradise pizza (no affiliation) refrigerator magnet close to the capsules had a noticeable effect on the sound... it seemed to lower the levels.

LOL!!!!  Ahh, science, gotta love it. 

[Bob Lazar]

The element 115  (or ununpentium (Uup)) could be machined into mic clips which would create a reaction from being transmuted with an additional proton from 115 to element 116 which immediately decays and releases antimatter. When the element becomes so heavy as to have 115 protons and lands within an island of stability, the cumulative strong nuclear force or "Gravity A-wave" radiates or extends past the perimeter of the atom.  We can access this gravity and amplify it, lensing it to counter act the gravity of the microphones and naturally propogate them above the floor.

[Nick's Picks]

exactly!

[SparkE!]

Yeah that works for about 100 milliseconds, but then what do you do?  Make more?

[SparkE!]

Whoa!  Looks like Uup could actually cause your mics to be suitable for practical space travel:

http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Elerium-115
http://www.beyondweird.com/element115.html

So you're sitting there calmly recording your favorite artist when the mic mounts suddenly warp time-space so badly that your mics take off at relativistic speeds.  That can't be good for them, can it?  Would that be covered under warranty?

And Bob! You've got your own web site!

http://www.boblazar.com/ (but you can't come in)

[dean]

The element 115  (or ununpentium (Uup)) could be machined into mic clips which would create a reaction from being transmuted with an additional proton from 115 to element 116 which immediately decays and releases antimatter. When the element becomes so heavy as to have 115 protons and lands within an island of stability, the cumulative strong nuclear force or "Gravity A-wave" radiates or extends past the perimeter of the atom.  We can access this gravity and amplify it, lensing it to counter act the gravity of the microphones and naturally propogate them above the floor.

I was just going to say that!    

[jerryfreak]

wow, do you guys really beleive that modern shock mounts are that poor at isolation that you need to reinvent the wheel?

[guysonic]

i tried a simple, not so scientific test with my 460's. moving a paradise pizza (no affiliation) refrigerator magnet close to the capsules had a noticeable effect on the sound... it seemed to lower the levels.

Good way to test worst case magnetic effects, AND is a potential issue! 

Fortunately, even a most magnetic sensitive mic has good chance of working normally 

INTRODUCING  the production model of the "GRAV-CLAMP"  with ~3" overall length universal collar accommodating up to 1.5" dia. mics.  More importantly, the GRAV motor mounts a safe distance well behind the diaphragm, AND has mic-side sufficient magnetic shielding to not mag-lockup output mics with transformer.  Designing good shielding is not difficult, and with performance benefits, so expect no mag-effects issues whatsoever in refined production models. 

The GRAV-CLAMP features easy and fast mic mounting after just one setup experience! 

Quick Instruction: AFTER  the slacked mic cords are carefully secured at point where mic is about center inside clamp's fixed outer hull , clamp's movable collar now easily slides along the body  , quickly locking-down  a little behind equilibrium balance position of floating collar+mic body.  This adds needed mass-loaded forward bias to offset the slacked cord's vectoring effect.

First setup will take much time and care,  and it's most important to find and mark cord/collar positions with label or permanent pen. 

When already knowing exact mic mounting positions,  repeating the setup is easily done in a few minutes using same mic + cord combination.

  Bottom line is a practical magnetic mic suspension is still a GO waiting to happen! 

[DSatz]

d5 asked:

> if you're shielding the magnet, then how does the magnet work?

That's like asking how stealth recording can work! The magnet is the only part of this arrangement that has any business knowing that it's a magnet. Its two weapons are fear and surprise ... and ruthless efficiency.

--best regards

[guysonic]

Designing good shielding is not difficult

if you're shielding the magnet, then how does the magnet work?

Simple explanation is presence of a multi-layer combination of materials that both efficiently 'conduct' (effecting mag-field bypass), and with materials resisting  magnetic fields (shielding) to keep mic side field propagation 'squeezed into a path' to not invade the mic body space. 

The outside facing fixed clamp side magnetic field is unimpeded and further shaped by the layered shielding materials by their presence on the mic side, and absence in the grav-clamping area.

[rowjimmy]

So you're sitting there calmly recording your favorite artist when the mic mounts suddenly warp time-space so badly that your mics take off at relativistic speeds.  That can't be good for them, can it?  Would that be covered under warranty?

This happened to me once at a show. No magnets or ultraheavy elements were involved (that I'm aware of) but the liquid was pretty heavy.

[landshark]

d5 asked:

> if you're shielding the magnet, then how does the magnet work?

That's like asking how stealth recording can work! The magnet is the only part of this arrangement that has any business knowing that it's a magnet. Its two weapons are fear and surprise ... and ruthless efficiency.

--best regards

...and nice red uniforms...



that would be three weapons; fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical devotion to recording.

[wbrisette]

I'm still inclined to "build a better shockmount" though, as the only one i've ever used that I really believed made a difference were the sabra mounts, but those things are so flabby....

These actually work VERY well: http://www.professionalsound.com/Catalog/unism.htm

Wayne