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Re: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2007, 12:04:21 PM »
I believe bluntforcetrauma tapes alot of hard rock, so the high SPLs should be well suited for subcards.

Funny, I'd say the exact opposite.  High SPLs generally = boom from reflections.  Hard rock generally = poor venues. Subcards do not reject off-axis boom very well. Certainly not as well as cards or hypers.


Guess I've been spoiled, I've been taping hard rock acts at the Chicago HOB and the Metro this year with the 4023s but I unfortunately never got a chance to try out subcards.

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Re: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2007, 12:35:51 PM »

Do they still make the sonosax pre amp?

Yes they still make the sonosax pre, I beleive they go for about $1000 to $1100 new.
Used they seem to fetch about $600 to $800, but they don't show up all that often.

I have made some nice recordings going 4022 > sonosax sx-m2 > R09.
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Re: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2007, 12:40:23 PM »

Do they still make the sonosax pre amp?

Yes they still make the sonosax pre, I beleive they go for about $1000 to $1100 new.
Used they seem to fetch about $600 to $800, but they don't show up all that often.

I have made some nice recordings going 4022 > sonosax sx-m2 > R09.

i can't seem to find a vendor for the sonsoax sx-m2, George gave me  a web site but it was jsut description

where may i buy

thanks so much

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Re: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2007, 12:46:44 PM »

Do they still make the sonosax pre amp?

Yes they still make the sonosax pre, I beleive they go for about $1000 to $1100 new.
Used they seem to fetch about $600 to $800, but they don't show up all that often.

I have made some nice recordings going 4022 > sonosax sx-m2 > R09.

i can't seem to find a vendor for the sonsoax sx-m2, George gave me  a web site but it was jsut description

where may i buy

thanks so much

Try here.
http://www.cascademedia.net/categories.asp?catid=123
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Re: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2007, 12:49:54 PM »
I believe bluntforcetrauma tapes alot of hard rock, so the high SPLs should be well suited for subcards.

Funny, I'd say the exact opposite.  High SPLs generally = boom from reflections.  Hard rock generally = poor venues. Subcards do not reject off-axis boom very well. Certainly not as well as cards or hypers.


Guess I've been spoiled, I've been taping hard rock acts at the Chicago HOB and the Metro this year with the 4023s but I unfortunately never got a chance to try out subcards.

when would you like to? :)

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Re: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up
« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2007, 12:57:40 PM »
I believe bluntforcetrauma tapes alot of hard rock, so the high SPLs should be well suited for subcards.

Funny, I'd say the exact opposite.  High SPLs generally = boom from reflections.  Hard rock generally = poor venues. Subcards do not reject off-axis boom very well. Certainly not as well as cards or hypers.


Guess I've been spoiled, I've been taping hard rock acts at the Chicago HOB and the Metro this year with the 4023s but I unfortunately never got a chance to try out subcards.

when would you like to? :)

I've got a few shows coming up, I'll have to see where I'm sitting first but I think they're close to the stage. Might have to take you up on that

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Re: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up
« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2007, 01:12:06 PM »
I believe bluntforcetrauma tapes alot of hard rock, so the high SPLs should be well suited for subcards.

Funny, I'd say the exact opposite.  High SPLs generally = boom from reflections.  Hard rock generally = poor venues. Subcards do not reject off-axis boom very well. Certainly not as well as cards or hypers.


Guess I've been spoiled, I've been taping hard rock acts at the Chicago HOB and the Metro this year with the 4023s but I unfortunately never got a chance to try out subcards.

when would you like to? :)

I've got a few shows coming up, I'll have to see where I'm sitting first but I think they're close to the stage. Might have to take you up on that

George--where would you buy the sonosax pre amp, the site you linked was last updated in 2005.

What u.s company or distibuter would you suggest to get this from?

also do i get the STANDARD model?

there are also options like:
spring knobs
mono/stereo switch
lemo and binder connectors


please advise

George--do you just have the standard version?

I just want a trusted seller

thanks

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Re: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up
« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2007, 01:36:22 PM »

Do they still make the sonosax pre amp?

Yes they still make the sonosax pre, I beleive they go for about $1000 to $1100 new.
Used they seem to fetch about $600 to $800, but they don't show up all that often.

I have made some nice recordings going 4022 > sonosax sx-m2 > R09.

i can't seem to find a vendor for the sonsoax sx-m2, George gave me  a web site but it was jsut description

where may i buy

thanks so much

www.posthorn.com
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Preamp: nbox platinum II
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Re: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2007, 01:39:23 PM »
www.posthorn.com

Yup.  Not always the cheapest, but Jerry's one of the few vendors who knows all about the Sonosax SX-M2 (for use with DPA 402x), SX-M2/LS (I think this could be used with Neumann lemo cables + AKx caps), and SX-M2/LS2 (for use with KCY cable and MKx caps).
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Re: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2007, 01:40:34 PM »
http://sonosax.ch/sonosax_used_equipment.html

They have one in the used/clearance area.


George--where would you buy the sonosax pre amp, the site you linked was last updated in 2005.

What u.s company or distibuter would you suggest to get this from?

George--do you just have the standard version?

I just want a trusted seller

thanks

The first sax I had (that is now owned by U2's tour manager) was purchased used from a dat-heads posting. The replacement for that one came from a friend who bought his directly from Sonosax on the used equipment page I just quoted above. It came to him in pristine condition then after he ran it 3 times, he decided to get out of taping and I was in the right place at the right time as I needed the replacement the same week that he decided to sell his.

I wouldn't buy one new for that $1100 retail price, maybe a vendor would charge less though. I'd look into a 722 before I paid that much.

Because you're using XLR ins, you can just get the standard SX-M2 version.

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Re: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up
« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2007, 01:47:21 PM »
I wouldn't buy one new for that $1100 retail price, maybe a vendor would charge less though.

I think that's alot for one of these as well. For what its worth, I gave $600 for mine. It was used but in perfect condition.
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Re: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up
« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2007, 01:57:49 PM »
I wouldn't buy one new for that $1100 retail price, maybe a vendor would charge less though. I'd look into a 722 before I paid that much.

isnt the 722  kinda big to stealth, I know George you do it but Where does it go comfortably?



you have all been great help

i hope i can hunt one down
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Re: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up
« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2007, 02:13:57 PM »
I was talking with a friend last week and he mentioned he was gonna sell his Sonosax.Not sure what he would want for it.

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Re: Schoeps CCM41 or Schoeps MK41 for new set up
« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2007, 02:18:47 PM »
I was talking with a friend last week and he mentioned he was gonna sell his Sonosax.Not sure what he would want for it.

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