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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2005, 06:59:36 PM »
goose and I ran an a/b comparison of 4022's and jw mod 460's (actives/lemo).
It turned out so very close that you can barely hear any diff. Each mic had its own signature sound, but the diff is so intimately small that it would be difficult to describe.
WOW

that says a lot about those mod460's!
I talked to JW awhile back about the 460 mod and he said that he thought that it was comparable to the 4011, 402x series of mics  -      thanks Moke for the comp - I have been wanting to do this for some time - here is another reason to get this mod done (once I find another 460 body) ;D

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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2005, 07:02:41 PM »
Moke-

Do you have any V3 sources you can share or point me to? I haven't found any! I'd sure like to hear it, but I'm afraid it will make me want one even more. :o

Let me shn a sample, and I'll let you know where to get it.
I've gotta find the comp disc first ;)

Thanks, Moke!  +T
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2005, 08:28:18 PM »
GUESS

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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2005, 08:35:03 PM »
on it

so is it track 10 and 11 from both sources on one download?
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2005, 08:43:53 PM »
thanks 8)
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2005, 09:04:03 PM »
thanks  I have my guess, but I don't want to influence others.  Can you PM me which source is which. 

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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2005, 09:18:36 PM »
so do ya'll think the jwmod is a huge step/sonic sound over the 480 bodies ???
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2005, 09:23:05 PM »
SKIP THIS POST IF YOU DON'T WANT MY OPINION AND GUESSES



both tracks are excellent, I would love to hear the whole show from both sources... these impressions come fast, I don't dwell long..

















track 10 has a more rounded and musical feel to it, cleaner in the upper mids, better imaging - tighter, deep soundstage and fairly wide

track 11 is brighter, a bit more fatiguing,, more bite on the top end, the attack on the strings is much harsher... a little too active in the upper-mids, it's almost clouded, muddled imaging, nice deep soundstage but a bit narrow






my GUESS


would be



track 10: dpa's
track 11: mod 460's
« Last Edit: August 15, 2005, 09:26:55 PM by Tim »
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2005, 09:25:05 PM »
mok3, PM me what the answer is please!
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2005, 09:49:38 PM »
lemme check....
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2005, 10:44:14 PM »
Moke-

Thanks for the comp!  +T in twelve.

I pm'd you my guess.  Let me know how I fare'd.

Overall, I think they are both very nice recordings.  One is overall cleaner, tighter, and a bit less fatiguing, but both are very nice.  For the spread in the $, I think the 460's sound pretty damn good.
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2005, 11:21:53 PM »
Thank you for the comparisons moke!!

i would guess that:

10 = dpa...this just sounded softer overall, more even throughout. very full and pleasant.

11 = akg's...tad harsh, tho very slightly.  seemed very full

i listened several times before making up my mind, but the wife and I agreed about which was more to our liking.

moke..can you pm me the sources?? 

ugg..i was really thinking about fozzys 460's (IF I could ever sell the audix)...and i would like to get that v2 in the yard sale....
I think the jw mod 460's ->v2 -> ua5(i like this a/d for 24bit) would sound excellent!!!


[edit]jeez...now that I read tim's description...mine seems like a 3rd grader wrote it!  lawyers and their way with words...nice job tim  looks like we agreed tho, albeit your more detailed in your thoughts
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2005, 11:32:35 PM »
the V3 is not noisy... I have several tapes made with run literally WIDE OPEN and there's no noise

wonder who that crichety old bastard was who taped those shows ?
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2005, 11:33:39 PM »
Me being one of the first people to run JW mod 460's in the field (actually I think the first), and being one of the major influences on turning other people on to them, it's good to hear others finally realizing how sick these mics really are. For under a grand, I don't think you can find anything that even comes close. And IMHO, they compete with most mics twice the price. I wish that I had never sold mine. But when I do have some extra cash to buy new mics, I can promise you it'll be another pair of 460's that'll get sent straight to Jim.
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2005, 11:47:50 PM »
KCMoeJoe has the jw mod 460's runing into the tmod+ ua5.  I think his pulls from wakarusa sound excellent.  This is a mighty fine combo at a great price IMHO.  If I can't get the v2 for some reason, i will prolly opt for the tmod+...
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