Topic: diff between belden 1804a and Mogami W2893

[Neilyboy]

I am looking to build myself two new 12' sets of xlrs. I used belden 1804a for my interconnects from my r-44 to get me out of my bag (love that cable). question is i could save a bundle of money by snagging ~50 foot of mogami w2893 ($0.60 a foot) vs. belden 1804a ($1.67 a foot). is there much difference in the cable itself? would i be better off using some other cable for my build? i am really wanting to slim down my gear so stepping away from the heavy silvers and trying to find a way to run with some mini-star-quad cable.

any suggestions appreciated.

neil

[notlance]

Both companies make first rate cable.  You are only talking about 12 feet cables, so I don't see where it is going to make much difference which you use.  I'd go with the Mogami if for no other reason just to try it out.

[yug du nord]

1804a is silver plated, W2893 is not.  I think.

[darktrain]

I am looking to build myself two new 12' sets of xlrs. I used belden 1804a for my interconnects from my r-44 to get me out of my bag (love that cable). question is i could save a bundle of money by snagging ~50 foot of mogami w2893 ($0.60 a foot) vs. belden 1804a ($1.67 a foot). is there much difference in the cable itself? would i be better off using some other cable for my build? i am really wanting to slim down my gear so stepping away from the heavy silvers and trying to find a way to run with some mini-star-quad cable.

any suggestions appreciated.

neil

the mogami is quite a bit thicker overall in diameter(.189), to the 1804a which is(.115) thats a pretty big difference and the 1804a is silver plated, the mogami copper

[Neilyboy]

very good info thank you all very much.. so basically it comes down to how much $$ do I have in my pocket and and how much space do I want to free up in my gear bag. It does not sound like much but that .074 is a big difference on 50' of cable.

thanks for all the comments looks like ill save up a bit more and go for the 1804a.. now any suggestions on where to grab a 50' length of it for maybe a bit cheaper than i originally posted?

Neil

[notlance]

"very good info thank you all very much.. so basically it comes down to how much $$ do I have in my pocket and and how much space do I want to free up in my gear bag. It does not sound like much but that .074 is a big difference on 50' of cable."

You could always hang your long cables from your gear bag with a carabiner; that frees up a lot of space.  Or what I do is put my cables into a small backpack.  I just use a cheap bookbag type backpack that you can get for next to nothing during the Back to School sales that are on now.

[notlance]

Oh and where did you find mogami w2893 for $0.60 / foot in 50' lengths?  Thanks.

[it-goes-to-eleven]

The shield on the 1804a is very light.  The Mogami advertises superior shielding.  Though it is a spiral shield, and may be more prone to opening up than braided shield if used hard or kinked.

Another factor that hasn't been mentioned is the type of insulation on the conductors.  Though neither of those is teflon.

Nobody on this site has ever posted a comp between quad and non-quad balanced cables.  That might be interesting... especially if one of the comps included a source of rf interference.

I have silver teflon cable in quad configs and non-quad.  I don't like the general stiffness for short runs.  Some of that surplus cable is way too stiff due to the construction (strand diameter, etc).  I've seen cables made with that stuff that always wanted to coil and were a handling nightmare..

My go-to cable is a 25' pair that is heat shrinked together at 6' intervals and contained in a single piece of techflex.   I like my short 1804a cables, but at 25', that cable is a dream. The slickness of the outer jacket allows the cable to float inside the techflex when coiling.  It takes some careful assembly to get that right (you need to straighten the cable before heatshrinking, etc), but that cable handles really well. It lays straight, coils easy, it is extremely compact when coiled...  Love it.  I'm not sure cable with non-slick jackets could behave so well.

I find 1804a a bit prone to twisting and kinking because it is so flexible.

[yug du nord]

At some point, I'd like to run 1804a entirely with my rig.....  unless I find a reason not to.  I have a pair of 10' techflexed that are fantastic.....  but sometimes not long enough.  I just really like the user friendliness of the 1804a....  as long as you don't end up with knots.  I've never used the W2893.

[Neilyboy]

I myself have never used the mogami w2893 but it sounds like ill just save up the $$ and grab more of the 1804a as it is simply amazing cable to not only solder and work with but like everyone here says to work with at the show.. ill have to dig up the link for ya for the 60 cents a foot on the mogami i have it bookmarked at work but nothing here at home.. I think it was markertek though.. well off to find me a 50' length of 1804a!

Neil

[mmedley.]

well off to find me a 50' length of 1804a!

You will be searching for a long while. The minimum length is 100ft at 99.9% of the places and even that is hard to find in stock. Usually a special order.

[JasonSobel]

well off to find me a 50' length of 1804a!

You will be searching for a long while. The minimum length is 100ft at 99.9% of the places and even that is hard to find in stock. Usually a special order.

a good search brings up 3 or 4 places to buy 1804a by the foot.
I haven't ordered from any of these places (but I may soon)...
http://www.wwbroadcast.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=TCNC_BL-1804A&Click=112920
https://www.3dhdsupply.com/ProductDetails.Asp?ProductCode=BL-1804A

[tgakidis]

Last I knew Have Inc http://www.haveinc.com/ has it for around $1.25 per foot, ask for Fritz and tell him Ted sent you....