Topic: Dither/resampling/temp file tests in Wavelab

[Ray76]

Now I just have to figure out how to get the 7th show off the 744t. 

One more thing though..Do you do fade in and out or just one??

Teddy

[dmonterisi]

what i do is chop off the from the beginning and end what i don't want and then highlight the first two seconds and fade that in.  then highight the last 2 seconds and fade that out.

[Ray76]

what i do is chop off the from the beginning and end what i don't want and then highlight the first two seconds and fade that in.  then highight the last 2 seconds and fade that out.

you mean from the entire show..not track to track im assuming.?? Just curious, have a wilco show that had fades on all the tracks.

[dmonterisi]

yeah, i don't fade the tracks, just the beginning and end of each set.  i hate when i get shows with unnecessary fades.

[Ray76]

yeah, i don't fade the tracks, just the beginning and end of each set.  i hate when i get shows with unnecessary fades.

Thats what I thought. Preciate it.

[nickgregory]

alright this thread gave me a headache...mainly because I realize I have to change my workflow....thanks Damon for doing the testing...

I think Boswell said it best...with this 24 bit crap I feel like I am newb taper with his first DAT all over again

[nickgregory]

Alright, tried laying the tracks out in wavelab, dont like the interface as well as CDWAV for putting track marks out.  So I am thinking my process should be as follows:

24 bit
- Open first 24 bit file in CDWAV and track out
- Save tracks as "alternate 24 bit format"
- Save Cuesheet
- Repeat process for additonal 24 bit files (until show is complete)
- Take split files, join them in wavelab and save
- Add fade in/out to beg/end of show in wavelab
- Burn 24 bit DVD
- Flac 24 bit files

16 bit
- Open first 24 bit file (raw file from 722) in Wavelab and dither/resample
- Repeat processs for additional 24 bit files (until show is complete)
- Open resampled/dithered files in CDWAV and open the saved cuesheet (which should put the track marks at the same point in the file as the 24 bit copy)
- Save files
- Repeat process for additional 16/44.1 chunks until show is complete
- Take split files, join them in Wavelab and save
- Burn 16/44 CD
- FLAC 16 bit files

Now if I am correct in my process, this will yield no sector boundary issues....

will run it through tonight for my moe opening set from ABB and report back...

[scb]

see spark on the mac makes it so easy:

1. open all 24 bit files from 722/other recorder
2. create new 24 bit file and paste the other ones in, since it can handle files larger than 2 gigs
3. place track markers
4. export 24 bit tracks
5. resample 1 big file
6. export resampled tracks

now i don't mean to say pc's suck in this thread, but damn, windows needs an app that uses a larger file format like spark's wav64.  no nick, i'm not gonna write it

though i may write a simple app for mac/windows that'll join any kind of pcm data into 1 file.  shntool only joins 16/44.1.  it'd be nice to have a util that'll join something like 24/96 files

[nickgregory]

though i may write a simple app for mac/windows that'll join any kind of pcm data into 1 file.  shntool only joins 16/44.1.  it'd be nice to have a util that'll join something like 24/96 files

sounds great, let me know when you have it in place and I would be happy to help test

[MattD]

What error do you get when you try to use shntool to join 24/96 files? I have the source open now and am looking at the process_files_join routine.

[scb]

i hadn't tried.  but i got a PM a little while back from someone asking why xACT didn't join 24/96 files.  i'm assuming shntool doesn't, since xACT just calls shntool

[Rick]

16 bit
- Open first 24 bit file (raw file from 722) in Wavelab and dither/resample
- Repeat processs for additional 24 bit files (until show is complete)

Why not Join all the wavs 1st then dither/resample? If you do File > New > Wav and then Edit > Insert Audio Files you won't have a problem with file sizes. Then I track it in CDWave

[nickgregory]

16 bit
- Open first 24 bit file (raw file from 722) in Wavelab and dither/resample
- Repeat processs for additional 24 bit files (until show is complete)

Why not Join all the wavs 1st then dither/resample? If you do File > New > Wav and then Edit > Insert Audio Files you won't have a problem with file sizes. Then I track it in CDWave

the thing I lose there is that my saved "cue" file where I tracked out the 24 bit file will not work...

[mhibbs]

Alright, tried laying the tracks out in wavelab, dont like the interface as well as CDWAV for putting track marks out.  So I am thinking my process should be as follows:

24 bit
- Open first 24 bit file in CDWAV and track out
- Save tracks as "alternate 24 bit format"
- Save Cuesheet
- Repeat process for additonal 24 bit files (until show is complete)
- Take split files, join them in wavelab and save
- Add fade in/out to beg/end of show in wavelab
- Burn 24 bit DVD
- Flac 24 bit files

16 bit
- Open first 24 bit file (raw file from 722) in Wavelab and dither/resample
- Repeat processs for additional 24 bit files (until show is complete)
- Open resampled/dithered files in CDWAV and open the saved cuesheet (which should put the track marks at the same point in the file as the 24 bit copy)
- Save files
- Repeat process for additional 16/44.1 chunks until show is complete
- Take split files, join them in Wavelab and save
- Burn 16/44 CD
- FLAC 16 bit files

Now if I am correct in my process, this will yield no sector boundary issues....

will run it through tonight for my moe opening set from ABB and report back...

So Nick, did it work like you expected???

[nickgregory]

Alright, tried laying the tracks out in wavelab, dont like the interface as well as CDWAV for putting track marks out.  So I am thinking my process should be as follows:

24 bit
- Open first 24 bit file in CDWAV and track out
- Save tracks as "alternate 24 bit format"
- Save Cuesheet
- Repeat process for additonal 24 bit files (until show is complete)
- Take split files, join them in wavelab and save
- Add fade in/out to beg/end of show in wavelab
- Burn 24 bit DVD
- Flac 24 bit files

16 bit
- Open first 24 bit file (raw file from 722) in Wavelab and dither/resample
- Repeat processs for additional 24 bit files (until show is complete)
- Open resampled/dithered files in CDWAV and open the saved cuesheet (which should put the track marks at the same point in the file as the 24 bit copy)
- Save files
- Repeat process for additional 16/44.1 chunks until show is complete
- Take split files, join them in Wavelab and save
- Burn 16/44 CD
- FLAC 16 bit files

Now if I am correct in my process, this will yield no sector boundary issues....

will run it through tonight for my moe opening set from ABB and report back...

So Nick, did it work like you expected???

yup, no SBEs and relatively easy process to work through...