Topic: Sony PCM-D100

[H₂O]

Thanks H20 Thats not too bad of an increase of data written at all IMO I could make that work! I thought that the Korg units went up to 1bit 5.6mHz Does this Sony only go up to 1bit 2.8mHz

Thanks,
Bean

Only the MR-1000 and MR-2000(rack unit) supported 5.6Mhz

The MR-1, MR-2, and Sony D100 only support 2.8Mhz

SACD's are only 2.8MHz as well

[H₂O]

Ouch...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-SONY-Linear-PCM-Recorder-D100-PCM-D100-Music-Player-F-S-EMS-/151134043330#ht_1919wt_971

These Japanese sellers routinely list the D50 at over 2x the US street price - and I'd be willing to bet they are throwing in a new to market premium as well - at least I hope so

So I would think the US street will be no more then $650 - still too high IMO

[F.O.Bean]

Thanks H20 Thats not too bad of an increase of data written at all IMO I could make that work! I thought that the Korg units went up to 1bit 5.6mHz Does this Sony only go up to 1bit 2.8mHz

Thanks,
Bean

Only the MR-1000 and MR-2000(rack unit) supported 5.6Mhz

The MR-1, MR-2, and Sony D100 only support 2.8Mhz

SACD's are only 2.8MHz as well

OK, thanks H20, thats exactly what I thought

[WiFiJeff]

So I would think the US street will be no more then $650 - still too high IMO

I spoke with the Sony guy at AES today, list will be $799.  The machine is slightly heavier than the D50 and thicker, the mics have bigger capsules and are supposed to be a lot better than the D50 mics.  He was not sure if the digi-in would accept a DSD signal or not. 

Jeff

[H₂O]

The SPDIF will not accept DSD - DSD uses SDIF-3 and requires 1 BNC per Channel and 1 BNC for Clock

It may be possible to send the clock via the SPDIF (as is possible with the Korg MR-2000) so you can chain a number of these decks together and sync

[H₂O]

The D50 retailed for $599 with a street of $450 so this unit will probably street for around $599

[ghibliss]

The list price of the PCM D-100 is $999.00 on the Sony US website so the price that you were given at AES was most likely the projected "Street" price and not the actual retail price.  The $799.00 price would reflect a discount of 20% off of the retail which is typical of these products.  I seriously doubt that you will find this product for $599.00 anywhere as there is no competitive handheld 24/192 recorder available at or near the list price of the D-100 recorder. 

In my opinion if you have a D-100 there is no need for anything like a Tascam 680 which is a boat anchor made out of plastic and is not really a stealth class recorder suitable for recording in small venues.  However the piece does provide 24/192 and was one of the only options available with this feature set for quite a while short of spending a lot more money.
 

[H₂O]

The Korg MR-1 (used) and MR-2 offer 24/192 and can be had for under $400 - Although I would never run 24/192 only DSD with any of these

[dogmusic]

Here's the Sony USA product page for the D100:

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-audio/cat-recorders/product-PCMD100/

Not much info yet.

[Amir]

Guys, do you know if Sony will also release an XLR/phantom module for the D100? The PCM-D100 seems to be a great, sturdy product, but without XLR/phantom power support I'm wondering if or how I can justify its purchase (especially with such a price tag) when I can't easily get my XLR-requiring dynamic and condenser mics to work with it. It's true that I can utilize its S/PDIF capabilities to create a recording session with my USBPre 2, a USB battery and microphones, but that setup wouldn't be really portable unless I'm missing something.
So here's a question for you folks: do you think I should get the Zoom H6 to have all I want in a recorder (multitracking, XLR/phantom power, etc), or should I spend more on the PCM-D100 for what it's supposed to offer quality/conversion-wise and find a way to circumvent its lack of XLR/phantom power? I want to upgrade what I currently use -- Olympus LS-100 whose not-so-clean internal mics and ever-nagging "press a key for its sleep mode first" issue are driving me up a wall. Apart from taping concerts, I'd like the new recorder to be used in ENG/reporter settings; so the more portable the recorder remains, the better I can take advantage of it.

[dallman]

The list price of the PCM D-100 is $999.00 on the Sony US website so the price that you were given at AES was most likely the projected "Street" price and not the actual retail price.  The $799.00 price would reflect a discount of 20% off of the retail which is typical of these products.  I seriously doubt that you will find this product for $599.00 anywhere as there is no competitive handheld 24/192 recorder available at or near the list price of the D-100 recorder. 

In my opinion if you have a D-100 there is no need for anything like a Tascam 680 which is a boat anchor made out of plastic and is not really a stealth class recorder suitable for recording in small venues.  However the piece does provide 24/192 and was one of the only options available with this feature set for quite a while short of spending a lot more money.

I have never heard anyone refer to the DR 680 as a stealth recorder, but I think there are lots of people very happy with it. I think the D-100 might barely be a stealth deck too and as of today it is untested, so hard to really comment. It might be premature to say the D100 is the best choice when it has yet to be tested, the feature set is yet to be defined, and the diversity of recording that goes on within this forum, surely proves one deck does not suit all.

[John Willett]

New info today

[2manyrocks]

Sony has to convince me why I should pay $999 for this model when just a few months ago, I could have bought two Tascam DR680s for less money.  For that matter, there are other combinations of recorders I could buy and still have money left over--A DR 680 and a PCM M10, for example.  That would cover a lot of recording situations right there with money left over. 

 

[DigiGal]

Why wouldn't Sony put XLR inputs on their highest-quality portable digital recorder 

[H₂O]

Sony has to convince me why I should pay $999 for this model when just a few months ago, I could have bought two Tascam DR680s for less money.  For that matter, there are other combinations of recorders I could buy and still have money left over--A DR 680 and a PCM M10, for example.  That would cover a lot of recording situations right there with money left over. 

Because why would you want 2 "boat anchors".