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Offline jmerin

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Tiny Box Help
« on: September 16, 2014, 04:16:50 PM »
Hello... I am going to be ordering one of the Tiny boxes in a day or so . I just want to get a few opinions. I will be getting the one for the schoeps (5 pin binder). The creator said that he can customize the gain settings. I was thinking 10 20 30. What are your thoughts thanks!

My config will be :

Standard amplifier
single minijack
Direct line only
16V


schoeps > tiny box >m10

I plan to stealth and open tape jam band shows..
Mics: Schoeps MK4's | Schoeps MK41's | Schoeps Mk21's
Pre-Amps: Schoeps VMS02ib | Nbox Platinum KCY
Cables: KCY 250/5 Ig (2)
Recorders: Sony M10  | Tascam 70D l Edirol R-44

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Re: Tiny Box Help
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2014, 08:20:17 PM »
Great choice. You might consider sticking with the slightly lower default gain settings. I almost always find that my mid gain setting is sufficient with my Sony m10 set to 3. Occasionally I want to go down from there on the tinybox and I'd rather have too little gain for a situation than too much. I've found the low gain setting necessary when running at stage lip or in clubs with loud PAs.

I'm not sure I have ever needed to use the high gain except for recording some non-amplified music.

In fact if I was ordering one today I might do 0, 10, 20

Mics: Schoeps MK5,MK41 CMC6,KCY,KC5 | AKG ck63,ck1 C460B,C480B | DPA 4061 | Naiant X-R card,hyper | CA-14o,c
Pres: Sound Devices USBPre2 | Naiant Tinybox | Church Audio 9200, UBB
Recs: Zoom F8 | Edirol R-44 | Sony PCM-M10 | Tascam DR-2d
Video: Sony CX550(2), CX580, HX9

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Re: Tiny Box Help
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2014, 08:24:58 PM »
Mine is 10, 20, 30 and I have never used the 30 setting, if I were to get another, I might do 8,16,24

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Re: Tiny Box Help
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2014, 08:59:38 PM »
I have stock and have never used high, mostly mid, occasionally low
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
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Re: Tiny Box Help
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2014, 09:08:24 PM »
Same here mine has 4,18,32. And i only have used the mid setting of 18.

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Re: Tiny Box Help
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2014, 09:57:53 PM »
over all is every one happy with the pre amp?
Mics: Schoeps MK4's | Schoeps MK41's | Schoeps Mk21's
Pre-Amps: Schoeps VMS02ib | Nbox Platinum KCY
Cables: KCY 250/5 Ig (2)
Recorders: Sony M10  | Tascam 70D l Edirol R-44

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Re: Tiny Box Help
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2014, 10:22:39 PM »
Love mne...once you get your in hand im sure you will feel the same  ;D

Mine is also 4,18 and 32 always run on 18..
Mics:  Gefell M20,M21- sms2000/nbob | Schoeps MK4V;MK4- cmc1L/cmc6/nbob | AKG ck1,3,8,22;ck61,62,63,69- c460b/c480b/Naiant/nbob actives | Neumann KM140/150 | AT853, AT933 | CA-11 | DPA 4022 (on loan)
Pres: Naiant Littlebox | Tinybox | BMod Edirol UA-5 | Church ST-9200
Recorders:  Zoom F8 | Tascam DR-680 | Tascam DR-60D | Sony PCM-M10
Video: Canon VIXIA HF R42

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Re: Tiny Box Help
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2014, 10:44:54 PM »
Is there a big difference between 18 and 20? I am thinking I might get a stock one . 4 18 32..

I was thinking 10 20 30
Mics: Schoeps MK4's | Schoeps MK41's | Schoeps Mk21's
Pre-Amps: Schoeps VMS02ib | Nbox Platinum KCY
Cables: KCY 250/5 Ig (2)
Recorders: Sony M10  | Tascam 70D l Edirol R-44

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Re: Tiny Box Help
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2014, 11:06:27 PM »
Love mine too
Not as much as my littlebox but real close
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

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Re: Tiny Box Help
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2014, 09:48:36 AM »
I love mine. I have the stock gain settings and always run either low or medium.

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Re: Tiny Box Help
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2014, 10:27:39 AM »
could someone confirm what the stock  gain settings are for me thanks!
Mics: Schoeps MK4's | Schoeps MK41's | Schoeps Mk21's
Pre-Amps: Schoeps VMS02ib | Nbox Platinum KCY
Cables: KCY 250/5 Ig (2)
Recorders: Sony M10  | Tascam 70D l Edirol R-44

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Re: Tiny Box Help
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2014, 10:37:32 AM »
4, 18, 32. I had to search for a bit on the Naiant site to find them again.

Look for "Gain control" about halfway down:

http://naiant.com/tinybox-specification/

You got me thinking about this some more and I think I'd stick with the defaults for another one :)  Also to keep consistent with my first one.

Not presented as a head to head comp at all (or anything of the sort!) , just an anecdotal reference I ran "Schoeps MK5 > KCY > Tinybox > M10" Thur night and "MK5 > KC5/CMC6 > USBPre2 > R-44" Fri and sat night at Camp Barefoot (http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=169829.0) and I don't have any complaints at all with how my recordings turned out either night (other than my apparent spdif cable issue which is my own deal of course)

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Mics: Schoeps MK5,MK41 CMC6,KCY,KC5 | AKG ck63,ck1 C460B,C480B | DPA 4061 | Naiant X-R card,hyper | CA-14o,c
Pres: Sound Devices USBPre2 | Naiant Tinybox | Church Audio 9200, UBB
Recs: Zoom F8 | Edirol R-44 | Sony PCM-M10 | Tascam DR-2d
Video: Sony CX550(2), CX580, HX9

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Re: Tiny Box Help
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2014, 11:00:27 AM »
What you'll use depends on what you record but the stock setting should be fine.  I have the stock setting and rarely run low but don't do a lot of very loud shows.  I have had to run high for unamplified classical and acoustic stuff in large rooms, so like having that.  I nearly always run mid though.  You'll probably use low and mid... 
Gear:
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Schoeps MK4V
Nak CM-100/CM-300 w/ CP-1's or CP-4's
SP-CMC-25
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Oade C mod R-44  OR
Tinybox > Sony PCM-M10 (formerly Roland R-05) 
Video: Varied, with various outboard mics depending on the situation

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Re: Tiny Box Help
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2014, 01:12:44 PM »
Thanks for your input. I ordered a tiny box with the standard gains
Mics: Schoeps MK4's | Schoeps MK41's | Schoeps Mk21's
Pre-Amps: Schoeps VMS02ib | Nbox Platinum KCY
Cables: KCY 250/5 Ig (2)
Recorders: Sony M10  | Tascam 70D l Edirol R-44

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Re: Tiny Box Help
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2014, 02:09:24 PM »
while not mentioned in your posts and perhaps too late, don't forget to consider the Output Transformer option --

 

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