Topic: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50

[oivindi]

also, they are NOT in stock at B&H.
says so right on that link you posted.

It said "In Stock" when I posted the link earlier today, so either they sold out quickly, or it was a mistake. Considering Sweetwater has said Sony has sent them stock, B&H could've gotten stock early.

[Nick's Picks]

the sony reps I know say nobody has seen it.
so if people have had them in stock...where are they?

i say they will not be seen until 08.

[finao1]

I saw them available Friday from B&H and got my order in time.  I will have it tomorrow morning.  Currently I own the Edirol R-09, being fed line-in from a Sound Devices 302.  I'm looking forward to comparing the two recorders.

BP

[prof_peabody]

the sony reps I know say nobody has seen it.
so if people have had them in stock...where are they?

i say they will not be seen until 08.

I saw them available Friday from B&H and got my order in time.  I will have it tomorrow morning.  Currently I own the Edirol R-09, being fed line-in from a Sound Devices 302.  I'm looking forward to comparing the two recorders.

BP

Nick...  Looks like you need some more reliable sources...

[Belexes]

I have an R-09 and thinking about jumping to this, but all that built-in mic crap bothers me size-wise as I need to stealth most of the time.  I'd like to see photos of this next to the R-09 once someone has this in their hands.

[Nick's Picks]

Nick...  Looks like you need some more reliable sources...

Looks like it eh?

good!  i'm glad ... i want to see one of these in real true true life

[prof_peabody]

I have an R-09 and thinking about jumping to this, but all that built-in mic crap bothers me size-wise as I need to stealth most of the time.  I'd like to see photos of this next to the R-09 once someone has this in their hands.

I agree.  I'm already wondering if you can remove them with a hard hack...

[mrsoul]

I have an R-09 and thinking about jumping to this, but all that built-in mic crap bothers me size-wise as I need to stealth most of the time.  I'd like to see photos of this next to the R-09 once someone has this in their hands.

I agree.  I'm already wondering if you can remove them with a hard hack...

Why not just buy a Hi-MD if stealth is the need.  I am keeping my RH10 but hope to have my PCM-D50 in my grubby hands by next week according to my update today from Musician's Friend.  But, it remains to be seen like Nick states...
Happy Birthday to me while I am at it   

[finao1]

I will try to give a physical evaluation tomorrow.  I will not be able to assess recording capability till later in the week.

BP

[flintstone]

Sony PCM-D50 and Edirol R-09

The measurements reported by the manufacturers:

Edirol R-09
2-1/2 x 4-1/16 x 1-3/16 in.   
63 x 102 x 29 mm
5.15 oz (146g) with 2 AA batteries

Sony PCM-D50
2-7/8" x 6-1/8" x 1-5/16"
74 x 155 x  33mm
12.88 oz  (365g) including 4 AA batteries

So the D50 is  3/8" wider, 2 1/8" taller,  and  1/4" thicker

The D50 is also more than twice as heavy, 7.73 oz (219 g) more. 
Some of that is 2 extra AA batteries, but most of the difference
is in the D-50's metal case.

Flintstone

[prof_peabody]

I have an R-09 and thinking about jumping to this, but all that built-in mic crap bothers me size-wise as I need to stealth most of the time.  I'd like to see photos of this next to the R-09 once someone has this in their hands.

I agree.  I'm already wondering if you can remove them with a hard hack...

Why not just buy a Hi-MD if stealth is the need.  I am keeping my RH10 but hope to have my PCM-D50 in my grubby hands by next week according to my update today from Musician's Friend.  But, it remains to be seen like Nick states...
Happy Birthday to me while I am at it   

I think the reasons why not to use MD are pretty obvious - disk limitations, disk errors, disk flips, 16 bit.  That's why.

[illconditioned]

I have an R-09 and thinking about jumping to this, but all that built-in mic crap bothers me size-wise as I need to stealth most of the time.  I'd like to see photos of this next to the R-09 once someone has this in their hands.

I agree.  I'm already wondering if you can remove them with a hard hack...

Why not just buy a Hi-MD if stealth is the need.  I am keeping my RH10 but hope to have my PCM-D50 in my grubby hands by next week according to my update today from Musician's Friend.  But, it remains to be seen like Nick states...
Happy Birthday to me while I am at it   

I think the reasons why not to use MD are pretty obvious - disk limitations, disk errors, disk flips, 16 bit.  That's why.

I've made plenty of great MD recordings.  16bit wav, with pretty good preamps makes a great stealth rig.  It is especially nice with the advanced remote, so you can see/adjust levels without touching the unit.  I've got two MD that I keep, and occasionally use if I need a second rig, or if I want to record quieter stuff.

I'm expecting this new recorder will have good preamps too.  Let's hope so...

  Richard

[Nick's Picks]

ditto.
in fact, i'd like to have a nice high-MD rig for my stealthing.
although, running the church pre > mr1 at 1bit/2.8gHz WSD doesn't suck.

[Belexes]

I have an R-09 and thinking about jumping to this, but all that built-in mic crap bothers me size-wise as I need to stealth most of the time.  I'd like to see photos of this next to the R-09 once someone has this in their hands.

I agree.  I'm already wondering if you can remove them with a hard hack...

Why not just buy a Hi-MD if stealth is the need.  I am keeping my RH10 but hope to have my PCM-D50 in my grubby hands by next week according to my update today from Musician's Friend.  But, it remains to be seen like Nick states...
Happy Birthday to me while I am at it   

I think the reasons why not to use MD are pretty obvious - disk limitations, disk errors, disk flips, 16 bit.  That's why.

Exactly. I totally agree...MD will never be an option from me and is fading away just like DAT is.

It doesn't have to be the size of a coaster for me to stealth, just that the construction of the PCM-D50 makes stealth more challenging when compared to the R-09.  I may be up for that challenge.  The fact that it has a digi-in makes me desire it.

[prof_peabody]

I have an R-09 and thinking about jumping to this, but all that built-in mic crap bothers me size-wise as I need to stealth most of the time.  I'd like to see photos of this next to the R-09 once someone has this in their hands.

I agree.  I'm already wondering if you can remove them with a hard hack...

Why not just buy a Hi-MD if stealth is the need.  I am keeping my RH10 but hope to have my PCM-D50 in my grubby hands by next week according to my update today from Musician's Friend.  But, it remains to be seen like Nick states...
Happy Birthday to me while I am at it   

I think the reasons why not to use MD are pretty obvious - disk limitations, disk errors, disk flips, 16 bit.  That's why.

I've made plenty of great MD recordings.  16bit wav, with pretty good preamps makes a great stealth rig.  It is especially nice with the advanced remote, so you can see/adjust levels without touching the unit.  I've got two MD that I keep, and occasionally use if I need a second rig, or if I want to record quieter stuff.

I'm expecting this new recorder will have good preamps too.  Let's hope so...

  Richard

I can do all of this with my DAT deck.