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Title: mini starquad (or "How Markertek ROCKS")
Post by: mmmatt on August 25, 2004, 12:37:49 PM
Hello,
I have some leftover canare mini starquad cable that I was thinking of using with my mics.  I currently have the std starquad and am very happy with the performance, but the mini would be a nicer fit in the bag.  Is there any downside to using the mini instead of the regular.  I believe the wire guage (of the actual copper inside) is the same and there is still sheilding.  Has anybody ever tried?

Matt
Title: Re: mini starquad
Post by: blu666z on August 25, 2004, 02:35:57 PM
I use about a 15' run of mini canare.  Haven't noticed in adverse effects from possible interference from less shielding.

-Kevin
Title: Re: mini starquad
Post by: Kindguy on August 25, 2004, 02:37:57 PM
I run belden mini star quad cables & love them. So does Bush. FWIW
Title: Re: mini starquad
Post by: blu666z on August 25, 2004, 03:13:44 PM
Correction, I also have Belden.

-Kevin
Title: Re: mini starquad
Post by: Todd R on August 25, 2004, 03:41:00 PM
My 25' mic cable set is made with the low profile canare starquad cable.  They've held up great, and sound very good--I'd def recommend the low profile canare starquad if you're making long mic cables so you can save a bit of room in your bag.
Title: Re: mini starquad
Post by: mmmatt on August 25, 2004, 05:19:11 PM
Thanks guys... I think I will do that!  They are 20 footers, and I'll just leave them as they are.

Matt
Title: Re: mini starquad
Post by: JNT on August 25, 2004, 07:45:38 PM
The standard canare L-4E6S is 21 guage. The mini canare L-4E5C is 23 guage.
http://www.canare.com/l4e6s.html

Joe
Title: Re: mini starquad
Post by: mmmatt on August 26, 2004, 03:45:37 PM
The standard canare L-4E6S is 21 guage. The mini canare L-4E5C is 23 guage.
http://www.canare.com/l4e6s.html

Joe
I conciously looked at that!  This is from the markertek website:
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   Photo of Canare L-4E5C Miniature Star-Quad (0.189
 
Highest signal isolation, unbelievable flexibility and durability. Special no-glare cable jacket. Used by America's leading soundmen and audio engineers. The first choice for hand-held microphones. Flexible, smooth to the touch, extra-strong standard diameter (21 AWG) STAR QUAD cable that fits perfectly in all XLR-type connectors. With 40 separate strands in each conductor, breakage due to flexing is all but eliminated. Available Colors: Black, Blue, Brown, Grey, Green, Purple, Orange, Red, Yellow, White. Sold Per Foot. Quantity Discounts Apply, Please Call For Pricing !!
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I guess I'll call them and see if I can't get them to swap it for me.  I ordered it to make some RCA interconnects, and the OD of the RCA fitting is set for the larger size.  I assumed it would be closer to the mini size because they didn't have that listed at all on the section by the connectors.  I should have checked out both before I ordered, but oh well.  Thanks for the research!

Matt
Title: Re: mini starquad
Post by: mmmatt on August 28, 2004, 01:45:28 PM
Well,
I called Markertek about the error on their site.  I left a message for the appropriate contact asking that instead of wasting money shipping things back and forth, would they be willing to just send me 10'  (my original purchase was 20' of each) of each color in the regular starquad and call it even.  She called me back and said "you mean 20' right?" I said well, I'll take 20' of each if you'll give it to me, but my biggest concern was what I was using 10' of cable for.  She said can you even use 20'?, and I said sure I'm always wishing I had a few more mic cables.  So she said OK... I'll send you 20' of each color in the regular starquad and get it in the mail today or tomorrow.
     Great customer service!!!  Now I have a bonus 40' of cable to play with, and the stuff I need to make the interconnects for my buddy. 

Matt
Title: Re: mini starquad (or "How Markertek ROCKS")
Post by: John Kelly on August 28, 2004, 03:46:48 PM
So how small is this mini starquad?  I really need to get some new cables for my micros, but I need something small enough to fit a mini XLR on one end.  I would get the Audiomagic Hypers, but I can't really afford $200+ on cables right now...
Title: Re: mini starquad (or "How Markertek ROCKS")
Post by: mmmatt on August 28, 2004, 05:51:27 PM
So how small is this mini starquad?  I really need to get some new cables for my micros, but I need something small enough to fit a mini XLR on one end.  I would get the Audiomagic Hypers, but I can't really afford $200+ on cables right now...
It's tiny... less than 1/4" in diameter.  Maybe 3/16th.  They have it measured in mm on the canare site.  It is supple and very flexable.  I assume this won't  be as good as AM hypers, but at $0.33 per foot you can't go wrong. I haven't gotten into the high-end cables yet, so I can't say if it is worth the extra $175 to go to the AM cables.  If you don't have the spare juice, you don't have that option though!

Matt
Title: Re: mini starquad (or "How Markertek ROCKS")
Post by: John Kelly on August 28, 2004, 11:37:22 PM
So how small is this mini starquad?  I really need to get some new cables for my micros, but I need something small enough to fit a mini XLR on one end.  I would get the Audiomagic Hypers, but I can't really afford $200+ on cables right now...
It's tiny... less than 1/4" in diameter.  Maybe 3/16th.  They have it measured in mm on the canare site.  It is supple and very flexable.  I assume this won't  be as good as AM hypers, but at $0.33 per foot you can't go wrong. I haven't gotten into the high-end cables yet, so I can't say if it is worth the extra $175 to go to the AM cables.  If you don't have the spare juice, you don't have that option though!

Matt

I used to run the standard star quads with my Octavas, so I have a feeling I'll like these.  I'm gonna be ordering some soon.  Thanks for the advice! ;D
Title: Re: mini starquad (or "How Markertek ROCKS")
Post by: Todd R on August 30, 2004, 12:23:34 AM
It's small, but I'm not sure I'd say tiny.  My unscientific measurements say it is about 3/16".  Smaller than typical mic cable for sure, but not in the realm of active cable diameters or the diameter of the cables that come with the m1290s.
Title: Re: mini starquad (or "How Markertek ROCKS")
Post by: caymanreview on August 30, 2004, 04:43:18 AM
does anyone have the part # on this stuff? i suck at searching places that sell this stuff. a link would be even better

need some 20-25ft'ers to run split omnis
Title: Re: mini starquad (or "How Markertek ROCKS")
Post by: mmmatt on August 30, 2004, 09:44:21 AM
http://www.markertek.com/Product.asp?baseItem=L%2D4E5C+BK&cat=CABLESCONN&subcat=BULKCABLE&prodClass=AUDIOBULK&mfg=&search=0&off=

I just noticed that they updated their site now with correct information.

Matt
Title: Re: mini starquad (or "How Markertek ROCKS")
Post by: Joe w. on August 30, 2004, 10:02:43 AM
ordered 50' last night.  ;D
Title: Re: mini starquad (or "How Markertek ROCKS")
Post by: John Kelly on August 30, 2004, 01:07:57 PM
It's small, but I'm not sure I'd say tiny.  My unscientific measurements say it is about 3/16".  Smaller than typical mic cable for sure, but not in the realm of active cable diameters or the diameter of the cables that come with the m1290s.

As long as I can fit a mini XLR connector I'll be fine.  I'll do some research before I order, though...
Title: Re: mini starquad (or "How Markertek ROCKS")
Post by: thegreatgumbino on August 31, 2004, 09:46:11 AM
Canare website has some good specs comparing the two.  Thanks.