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Re:What y splitter does oade use for the 7-pin?
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2003, 04:48:07 PM »
It doesn't look so hard...what is a rivet?

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Re:What y splitter does oade use for the 7-pin?
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2003, 12:20:51 PM »
isn't the idea of the oade cable to have one input and one output?  so you wouldn't necessarily just want a splitter, right?  since you don't want the same signal going to both jacks.
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Re:What y splitter does oade use for the 7-pin?
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2003, 01:53:44 PM »
isn't the idea of the oade cable to have one input and one output?  so you wouldn't necessarily just want a splitter, right?  since you don't want the same signal going to both jacks.
right.  But then what does oade do to have one in and then having the signal coming out of the deck?
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Re:What y splitter does oade use for the 7-pin?
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2003, 02:00:43 PM »
Is the output coming from the deck?  I assumed it was just passing the signal through from the input side.

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Re:What y splitter does oade use for the 7-pin?
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2003, 02:10:47 PM »
i guess this is why oade can charge so much for their cables, cuz we don't know how they work!  :lol:
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Re:What y splitter does oade use for the 7-pin?
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2003, 02:37:39 PM »
Is the output coming from the deck?  I assumed it was just passing the signal through from the input side.

The Oade cable does not split the incoming signal.  The signal path is:

7-pin input > deck > 7-pin output

NOT

            / deck
7-pin input<
            \ 7-pin output
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Re:What y splitter does oade use for the 7-pin?
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2003, 02:49:12 PM »
can you explain your diagrams a little more because i thought the oade cable just split the incoming signal.  would like to know how they actually work.

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Re:What y splitter does oade use for the 7-pin?
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2003, 02:54:25 PM »
also why cant you recieve a signal from both the output and input? ::)
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Re:What y splitter does oade use for the 7-pin?
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2003, 03:22:47 PM »
also why cant you recieve a signal from both the output and input? ::)

You're kidding, right?  I think that's what those rolling eyes are for.   8)

can you explain your diagrams a little more because i thought the oade cable just split the incoming signal.  would like to know how they actually work.

The Oade cable definitely does not just split the incoming signal.

[1]  In order to pass a digital signal out of the Oade cables, the deck into which the 7-pin is plugged MUST be on and recording.  If it is off or not recording, then no signal is passed out of the 7-pin.  This is because the signal goes in the coax, through the 7-pin into the deck, then back out the 7-pin to the coax out.

[2]  If the Oade cable just split the incoming signal, you'd be able to run signal in through the coax and out through the other coax without the 7-pin even plugged in (or the 7-pin plugged into a deck that isn't recording).  However, that isn't how it works.  This is why, when the lead deck's batteries die, the following decks in the chain get hosed as well.  If the Oade cable simply split the signal, the downstream decks would be fine.  Try it sometime when you have a couple decks available - it's easy to test that it doesn't simply split the signal.

The diagrams are just a way of expressing shorthand the signal paths [1,2] I described above (sorry, I screwed up my diagrams before...no wonder they were confusing!):

[1]
coax input > 7-pin into deck > 7-pin out of deck > coax output

[2]
          / 7-pin into deck
coax input
           \ coax output

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Re:What y splitter does oade use for the 7-pin?
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2003, 10:51:51 AM »
Brian is right on the money. I think the chain looks a little more like this:

coax input > 7-pin into deck > deck > 7-pin out of deck > coax output


The signal always passes throught the deck first. Even on a passive cable. But that is why the active is better. The cable helps the deck process the incoming signal to the correct voltage thus cutting down on the likelyhood of jitter. Jitter actually comes into play when you just split the signal using a Y splitter spoke of earlier in this thread. I only use the Y splitter as a last resort. I think there is a possibility of data loss when splitting digital signal using a Y splitter.
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Re:What y splitter does oade use for the 7-pin?
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2003, 11:32:42 AM »
I think the chain looks a little more like this:

coax input > 7-pin into deck > deck > 7-pin out of deck > coax output

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Re:What y splitter does oade use for the 7-pin?
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2003, 01:12:25 PM »
interesting.....thanks for the knowledge guys!

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