Topic: "Preferred" way to list a multi-cap mic in gear chain?

[acidjack]

Is there any "correct" or agreed-upon way to describe a multi-cap mic setup?

For say, the AKG 480, is it AKG 480/ck1, AKG 481, or something else?

Same with Schoeps - is there any "right" or "preferred" way to do it - Schoeps CMC64 vs. Schoeps CMC6/mk4?

Or I guess, in a very technical sense, it'd be mk4>CMC6>cables>etc. but I don't think I've seen that done commonly.

[Chuck]

Yeah, there doesn't seem to be any real standard.

This is what I do:

Source (AUD): AKG C 480 B comb/ CK61-ULS > Tascam DR-680
Microphone configuration: NOS, ceiling mount, FOB & center

But, I'm a stickler for the details...

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Is there any "correct" or agreed-upon way to describe a multi-cap mic setup?

For say, the AKG 480, is it AKG 480/ck1, AKG 481, or something else?

Same with Schoeps - is there any "right" or "preferred" way to do it - Schoeps CMC64 vs. Schoeps CMC6/mk4?

Or I guess, in a very technical sense, it'd be mk4>CMC6>cables>etc. but I don't think I've seen that done commonly.

You're right, it's uncommon to see it as cap > body when there isn't a cable. I went with what I'd seen as the traditional neumann method of listing everything outside of generic cables in the mix (so caps > special lemo cables > km100 bodies > other). So I end up with caps > bodies > other since the cables are generic in my setup. When I did the mix for a show recently with AKGs which don't run remotely, I noted it as body/cap (480/ck63) instead of cap > body which would (in my mind) allude to a cable being between the two (e.g. mk4 > nbox).

One other thing I've tried to do is any permenant modifications I note after the object in [] and any settings noted in (), e.g. ck930 (17cm, 100deg) > cv900 > FR2-LE [Busman T-mod] (24/44.1). Others may not do this, but I find it a helpful way of organizing stuff. My 2 cents. 

[acidjack]

It does seem that bodies/caps is the more common and accurate method.  I also do list any deck mods.  Your distinction between brackets and parentheses is a useful one, too, I think.

[newplanet7]

AKG ck1> c460b Is usually how I list.
Cap first.

[Husker Du]

Is there any "correct" or agreed-upon way to describe a multi-cap mic setup?

For say, the AKG 480, is it AKG 480/ck1, AKG 481, or something else?

It looks like Etree suggests AKG 481, but I think any of those descriptions are easy enough to figure out.

http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=SourceAbbreviations

[su6oxone]

Is there any "correct" or agreed-upon way to describe a multi-cap mic setup?

For say, the AKG 480, is it AKG 480/ck1, AKG 481, or something else?

It looks like Etree suggests AKG 481, but I think any of those descriptions are easy enough to figure out.

http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=SourceAbbreviations

I prefer the ck1/480, mk4/cmc6 format personally.  For Schoeps, I rarely see anyone use the CMC64 format, I guess primarily because CMC64 also refers to a retail/manufacturer stereo set, that includes other stuff technically (windscreens, shockmount, etc.).  When using Schoeps actives I typically left out the 'KC5' part because it just looked too long. 

[newplanet7]

Well with the 460's it's actually broken down for me because they take the vintage ck1's or the still made CK61-ULS.
Most that I know of with the 480's use CK61-ULS
Also the caps get hit first with the grooves then it goes from there.

[tim in jersey]

mk4 (ORTF)>kc5>cmc 6>722

[Shawn]

it's probably not that important. Just do whatever you prefer. I bet 4/5 of people that see it won't know the difference (they just know it's an AUD) 1/10 of people only care about the brand name of the mic and the other 1/3 of people are taper dorks and will understand it either way.

also 5/4 people have trouble with fractions.

[Dkrogh]

I really am inconsistent when it comes to listing those types of chains.  I just type and go from there.

[yltfan]

What about mics with switchable patterns?
AKG C414 XLS (hypers, DIN) > V3 > DR-680

I think I'm glad that they are no hard rules on this, I'd probably screw it up most of the time. I can't remember ever listing which caps I used on my Nakamichis.

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What about mics with switchable patterns?
AKG C414 XLS (hypers, DIN) > V3 > DR-680

exactly; the parenthesis for settings used on that recording, braces for fixed modifications.   

[newplanet7]

I have the reducer ring in my sig but I usually don't put it in  on a txt file.
And Just for correct order I put the caps first.
Just like the post processing, I wouldn't put Flac then cdwave.
Just little pet peeves I'm sure.
AKG ck1~> a60m~> c460b~>

If people care enough whether it's a card/hyper/omni, or even know what they are,
they will ask or google. That's what I did all those years on etree.

[darby]

Source 1:
AKG C460B/ck63s(DIN/FOB 25 ft away/1ft LOC/8.5ft) >
Lunatec V3 (SPDIF) > Tascam DR-680 @ 24/48
 
Source 2:
AKG C480B/ck61s(DIN/FOB 25 ft away/1ft LOC/9ft) >
Naiant Littlebox (RCA out > 1/4" in) > Tascam DR-680 @ 24/48

Well with the 460's it's actually broken down for me because they take the vintage ck1's or the still made CK61-ULS.
Most that I know of with the 480's use CK61-ULS
Also the caps get hit first with the grooves then it goes from there.

for vintage caps: AKG C460B/a60/ck1s