Topic: What do you think of SP-CMC-4 ?

[bedoc]

hello

first of all, sorry for my futur mistakes, i'm french, so my english is far from perfect

i tape shows from 18 months with an ECM-719. I'm verry happy of the results but I would like to update them with better mics. I'm interested in the SP-CMC-4 of sound professionnal. I have asked to a friend what kind of battery box choose, and he advice to me to take the SP-SPSB-6 battery box.

so do you think that SP-CMC-4 + SP-SPSB-6 is a good deal ? on the battery box, there is not bass roll of, is it a problem ? I mostly tape rock bands (placebo, pearl jam, coldplay, radiohead and french pop rock bands). for the mics, I can choose XLRM connectors, what is the difference ?  

do you think for the same price (about 250/300$) i can have better ? because i was aslo intesrested by OKMIIR.

thank you for your help  

[Will_S]

I like my SP-CMC-4s.  One problem with the stock configuration (ie, a run into a 2 wire battery box like the SP-SPSB-6) is that you can get distortion at loud shows. 

A 3 wire battery box like:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=71839.0

if you need a preamp as well

will solve the distortion problem, but will lower the sensitivity of the mics a bit so you need to have a decent preamp in your recorder, or get one separately (or solve both problems at once with: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=73499.0).  You'll also need a different connector than what the stock cable on the SP-CMC-4 usually comes with.

Chris at Sound Professionals may be able to provide you with a 3 wire battery box himself if you talk to him directly about customizations.  I'm sure he could at least have your mics terminated in mini XLRs to work with the battery boxes referenced abvove.

Aside from the possible distortion issues with loud shows, I think the SP-CMC-4s are great mics for the price and it's hard to do better for the price, especially for small mics.  One big advantage of the CMC-4s is that they have interchangeable capsules, sometimes hypercardioids can really help out far back or in a lousy sounding room.  And omnis can be great in a good acoustic environment, but I wouldn't want them as my only option.

[bedoc]

thanks for the informations

what do you mean by loud shows ?
because the preamp of chris is very intesresting but too expensive for me (I have ti buy the mics too)
is there an alternative between the SP-SPSB-6 and the one proposed by Chris ?

thanks

[macacopowa]

thanks for the informations

what do you mean by loud shows ?
because the preamp of chris is very intesresting but too expensive for me (I have ti buy the mics too)
is there an alternative between the SP-SPSB-6 and the one proposed by Chris ?

thanks

the 3wire battery box, increase your spl (reducing the distortion) and it's cheaper. On TS they are many people that can do this 3wire, the link that said Will_S you can see a 3wire bb for a very good price 

PS: welcome  from Barcelona

[dallman]

I find the bass rolloff very handy. I have the SP modified AT 853's, and if I use the configuration without a bass rolloff, I usually have to remove some bass in post. Not a big deal, but more work. I have the SP-SPSB-1 and I like it.

Remember that you get a discount from Sound Professionals as a member of TS.com . It mentions a code somewhere in the Retail Section, or you can just ask Chris at Sound Professionals.

[George]

I strongly recommend the 3 wire mod so the mics wont distort if you record loud concerts (such as heavy metal or hard rock where there's a lot of bass involved).  The mics will distort if you are close to the PA in such a situation. 

Otherwise, the mics sound great.  I have a pair with card elements and I love them.  I can send you mp3 samples if you'd like, drop let me know me.

[bedoc]

thanks for all your comments.

i will take the SP-SPSB-1 (with the SP-CMC-4) with bass roll off and level control
as i dont tape loud sound like heavy metal or hard rock (only pop/rock) I think it will be enough 

[it-goes-to-eleven]

Save some money and get a used one:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=74039.0

[bedoc]

I find the bass rolloff very handy. I have the SP modified AT 853's, and if I use the configuration without a bass rolloff, I usually have to remove some bass in post. Not a big deal, but more work. I have the SP-SPSB-1 and I like it.

Remember that you get a discount from Sound Professionals as a member of TS.com . It mentions a code somewhere in the Retail Section, or you can just ask Chris at Sound Professionals.

hum, do you the exact place to have this code. I don't find it. I have tried to contact chris but no answer for the moment (maybe he is busy) 

[joekar]

I find the bass rolloff very handy. I have the SP modified AT 853's, and if I use the configuration without a bass rolloff, I usually have to remove some bass in post. Not a big deal, but more work. I have the SP-SPSB-1 and I like it.

Remember that you get a discount from Sound Professionals as a member of TS.com . It mentions a code somewhere in the Retail Section, or you can just ask Chris at Sound Professionals.

hum, do you the exact place to have this code. I don't find it. I have tried to contact chris but no answer for the moment (maybe he is busy) 

Chris at SP is closed today.....He is open Monday thru Thursday......
Peace,
jk

[bedoc]

Chris at SP is closed today.....He is open Monday thru Thursday......
Peace,
jk

thanks for the information. I will wait to next week