Topic: Microphone configurations for LD mics.

[Jason B]

I know there has been a lot of poeple questioning how to setup different stereo microphone configurations, so I figured I would put together a page to point people to, in order to help them with their setups. So far, there are only large diaphragm pictures up, but I know this is what a lot of poeple have been having trouble with lately. I'll get some small diaphragm configuration pictures, as well as many other LD pics up there soon.

Maybe we could sticky this thread or link here, or in the microphone or archival forums?

-JB

Dead Link <<<http://homepage.mac.com/gottajiboo40/Menu10.html>>> Dead Link


Moke steps in for an edit:

I had a suspicion that these pictures might disappear. So I made copies one day, in anticipation


Healy From Above

Healy side view

DIN 20cm 90º front

DIN 20cm 90º above

MS 90º front view

MS 90º side view

ORTF 110º 17cm above

ORTF 110º 17cm

Horizontal XY 90º above

Horizontal XY 90º front

Vertical XY 90º front

Vertical XY 90º front

Vertical XY 90º front

The ts.com reference folder link:
http://www.taperssection.com/reference/images/JasonB%20LD%20Mic%20Configs/

[BCostigan]

Very nice Jason...+T!    If you run out of bandwidth hosting lemme know and I'll host them for ya.

[Jason B]

Yes, I will be adding some SD pics as soon as I can take them. I'm getting ready to add LD's in ORTF and Healy omni's now...

[Swampy]

Cool man, I have to do a basic little site for my Graphic Tech class. I think I might do a page for newbs, cause the archive can sometimes be a little hard to sort through!

[pnobles]

great page!   i took some pics of sd configurations with neumann 184s that i posted on here.  let me see if i can dig them up...

[pnobles]

http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?board=20;action=display;threadid=12241;start=msg149732#msg149732

here are some SD configuration pictures.

[twoodruff]

thanks jason, in the DIN mic spacing, the 20 cm looks shorter than the 17cm used in ORTF, is that just the pics? Actually if the *arms* of the AKG bar are pushed closer together then that has to be less than 17cm, correct?

[keepongoin]

now, when would you use these different configuations (I just bought a matched pair of ADK-TLs).

[Brian]

*** edited because it was one of my dumbest posts ever. good thing Twoodruff has it quoted though for your enjoyment ***
 
+T jason and pnobles for the nice config pics



Brian

[Brian]

now, when would you use these different configuations (I just bought a matched pair of ADK-TLs).

so many different variables here. it depends upon these factors. anybody else please feel free to chime in on any i missed:

-how the PA(if any) is set up and sounds
-where you want/can set up in relation to the PA/stage. If you can find that sweet spot and can set up there, DO IT! depending where that is, set up a config that will yeild you the best possible soundstage and overall music response.
-basically how the room sounds in general
-if taping on stage the way the musicians are set up will ultimately determine the config to use IMHO.

there's lots of info about different configs on this board that will give you more help than this one lame post. do a site search for a config you want to learn about. lots of info on *omni's* and *DIN vs. ORTF* here especially.

Brian

[twoodruff]

thanks jason, in the DIN mic spacing, the 20 cm looks shorter than the 17cm used in ORTF, is that just the pics? Actually if the *arms* of the AKG bar are pushed closer together then that has to be less than 17cm, correct?

the way i see it i think the ortf overhead picture was zoomed out a little more than the DIN overhead picture thus making you think that the ortf config had shorter spacing

+T jason and pnobles for the nice config pics



Brian

ORTF does have shorter spacing, 17 cm as opposed to 20 for DIN. What I am saying is looking at the pics and the fact that the AKG bar's arms are brought closer in together on the DIN, I dont think that is 20cm of spacing.

[Brian]

ORTF does have shorter spacing, 17 cm as opposed to 20 for DIN. What I am saying is looking at the pics and the fact that the AKG bar's arms are brought closer in together on the DIN, I dont think that is 20cm of spacing.

DOH! I knew that   i should remember to not post to TS.com before noon i looked at the pictures and read your post wrong.

Hi my name is Brian Sax and today i'm a dumbass

[plucks]

do remember Keepongoing, that these stereo techniques are intended for more studio/pro recordings than our field recordings.
The best thing to do is use these as a base and if you feel like trying a different variation, do it!  Certain gear sounds better when changing the angle slightly or spacing between caps.  

Nice pics Jason!

[Electric Cowgirl]

+T  thanks for the effort!!

[keepongoin]

do remember Keepongoing, that these stereo techniques are intended for more studio/pro recordings than our field recordings.
The best thing to do is use these as a base and if you feel like trying a different variation, do it!  Certain gear sounds better when changing the angle slightly or spacing between caps.  

Thanks, to both you and S_TL-Taper; I appreciate the help.  I will be using the mics in the field and in my home studio, so threads like these are very helpful.  I think I am going to modify one of those shure vert. bars and carry a t-bar as well.