Topic: Nagra LINO

[jbell]

Over priced recorder!!  I doubt it will out perform a Sony PCM-M10, but that is only my opinion.

8 months on...Has there been any conclusions on this topic?

[noahbickart]

well, I'm still angry that Nagra would slap their badge on something they didn't make.

[John Willett]

well, I'm still angry that Nagra would slap their badge on something they didn't make.

If Nagra made it from scratch in Switzerland it would be four or five times the price and unsellable.

So - they customise an OEM product for this lower end market.  I have no problem with that - it's a lot more than just stuffing a badge on.

I have the Nagra SD as well as the big Nagra VI 

[2manyrocks]

It's a hard sale in this market at the asking price as it is.

[hi and lo]

well, I'm still angry that Nagra would slap their badge on something they didn't make.

it's a lot more than just stuffing a badge on.

You keep saying this, but have never provided a shred of evidence to support the claim.

[John Willett]

well, I'm still angry that Nagra would slap their badge on something they didn't make.

it's a lot more than just stuffing a badge on.

You keep saying this, but have never provided a shred of evidence to support the claim.

But no one has ever presented a shred of evidence to say that they haven't.

I found out that it's not a bog standard badge job by talking to Nagra themselves.

[noahbickart]

Look, all I know is what I've seen on the *published* spec sheets and advertising copy. From that information, the Nagra unit is identical to the Chinese OEM recorder which sells for half the price.

Please state how Nagra adapted the OEM device if you know something that Nagra doesn't care to publish.

[Ozpeter]

Please state how Nagra adapted the OEM device if you know something that Nagra doesn't care to publish.

But - then they'd have to kill him!

Seems to me that this is a pretty pointless discussion.  If Nagra did make some changes, are they actually audible (which is what counts)?  What are the chances of getting the two versions of the device side by side and testing?  Nil, I'd say. 

If you believe the Nagra version is better then buy it.  If you the think the other versions are no worse and much cheaper, buy them.  But I suspect none of the participants here have any particular plan to buy either.  And has the Nagra world come to an end due to the supposed ruin of their reputation over this device in the quite long time it's been on the market?  I think not.

Really not worth going over yet again.

[hi and lo]

We're still waiting for legitimate information as to how the Lino is different. Can't say I've seen too many of these purchased by ts.com users, if any. Maybe if we had a legitimate product ambassador that doesn't just make unsubstantiated claims more would have been purchased.

[voltronic]

We're still waiting for legitimate information as to how the Lino is different. Can't say I've seen too many of these purchased by ts.com users, if any. Maybe if we had a legitimate product ambassador that doesn't just make unsubstantiated claims more would have been purchased.

The Lino has been discontinued, so there's not much point discussing any further.

[John Willett]

Looking at this thread reminded me to look at the Nagra website.

I found new software for my Nagra SD - I was using 1.2.0.12 and the latest is 1.2.0.15.

So if you have a Nagra recorder, it's worth checking - the latest for the Lino is 1.3.0.4.