Topic: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?

[thegreatgumbino]

I just got a pair of stock 460's and plan on having the JW mod done shortly.  The only sources I've heard with these were the Pmod and T+mod UA-5 on the Archive.  What does everyone else like to run behind these?  Anyone have some sources they can share?

[EA]

I just got a pair of stock 460's and plan on having the JW mod done shortly.  The only sources I've heard with these were the Pmod and T+mod UA-5 on the Archive.  What does everyone else like to run behind these?  Anyone have some sources they can share?

I ran my JW mod 460's > V2 > tod mod SBM1 most of the time and loved the combo. I'm sure they'd sound great with a V3. I ran 'em a few times with a mini-me and it also sounded really nice but too warm for my particular tastes (I like my recordings transparent). You're gonna love your mod 460's no matter what you run them into.

[fozzy]

.02
MP2 > modSBM1

[thegreatgumbino]

Can you run 24 bits with the SBM1?  What's the difference between the tod mod and the Oade mod SBM1?  Don't flame me for not using the search function...yet.  Just figured I'd pose the question since you guys were referencing them.  Also, since I've never done any research on the SBM1 or the MP2, what's the sound comparable to...warm?

[Tim]

no 24 bits with the sbm1

I suggest you reference the ongoing oade modsbm1 thread in pre/ad section for the differences in the two as it is a pretty technical question and you're better off reading it yourself so nothing gets lost in the translation

the oade modsbm1 is colored and warm
I think the todd modsbm1 is cleaner
a regular is sbm1 is not warm, it's a bit digital sounding... a little bright but not terribly so

the mp2 is a transformer based preamp, it's got a beefy lowend and is a bit colored

[dgodwin]

Can you run 24 bits with the SBM1?  What's the difference between the tod mod and the Oade mod SBM1?  Don't flame me for not using the search function...yet.  Just figured I'd pose the question since you guys were referencing them.  Also, since I've never done any research on the SBM1 or the MP2, what's the sound comparable to...warm?

There's no 24bit sbm-1's.  Oade doesn't do the sbm-1 afaik.  Todd R is doing them now.  There's information about them here: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=48138.0;topicseen   The oade SBM-1 is described as having a warm sound.  I don't know about the MP2.   I run stock 460's with a PS2 (phantom power only) and a stock SBM-1   The last show I taped can be found here  Also, fwiw, I've just jumped on a t+ mod UA5, so I've sold or am in the process of selling my PS2 and SBM-1.  Just trying something different...   

edit:  damn tim are you fast...

[Ray76]

Can you run 24 bits with the SBM1?  What's the difference between the tod mod and the Oade mod SBM1?  Don't flame me for not using the search function...yet.  Just figured I'd pose the question since you guys were referencing them.  Also, since I've never done any research on the SBM1 or the MP2, what's the sound comparable to...warm?

There's no 24bit sbm-1's.  Oade doesn't do the sbm-1 afaik.  Todd R is doing them now.  There's information about them here: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=48138.0;topicseen   The oade SBM-1 is described as having a warm sound.  I don't know about the MP2.   I run stock 460's with a PS2 (phantom power only) and a stock SBM-1   The last show I taped can be found here  Also, fwiw, I've just jumped on a t+ mod UA5, so I've sold or am in the process of selling my PS2 and SBM-1.  Just trying something different...   

edit:  damn tim are you fast...

Oade did two different line stage mods...Presence and Warm...majority being warm....but yeah, read the ongoing discussion....

[JAH]

I ran the Nissan ABB show 1st set using the JW mod 461's (madian voyage) into the MME...I can send if you want...just pm me.

peace
jah

[thegreatgumbino]

Thanks for the info guys.  I really want to set myself up for 24 bit incase the microtracker ever materializes, and I don't want to run an R4 or 722.  Just trying to work out the options and get a feel for what everyone likes.

I think the T+mod is probably the way that I'll head to save some cash for a new playback system to do the 24 bit justice.

edit for spelling.

[F.O.Bean]

i bet jwmod460's>v3 would sound YUMMY!

[thegreatgumbino]

i bet jwmod460's>v3 would sound YUMMY!

Dammit Bean!  I was just about past wanting the V3, and you had to come along and ruin it for me!   

[Tim]

goose and I ran an a/b comparison of 4022's and jw mod 460's (actives/lemo).
It turned out so very close that you can barely hear any diff. Each mic had its own signature sound, but the diff is so intimately small that it would be difficult to describe.
We recorded a 3 piece acoustic ensemble of harp, flute, and viola from 1st row RoC (by design and intent).

WOW

that says a lot about those mod460's!

[thegreatgumbino]

goose and I ran an a/b comparison of 4022's and jw mod 460's (actives/lemo), both into V3's.
It turned out so very close that you can barely hear any diff. Each mic had its own signature sound, but the diff is so intimately small that it would be difficult to describe.
We recorded a 3 piece acoustic ensemble of harp, flute, and viola from 1st row RoC (by design and intent).

So that would mean you ran the ck1x caps with the 460's right?  I think I read the ck1x is pretty comparable to the ck61, yes?

[thegreatgumbino]

Moke-

Do you have any V3 sources you can share or point me to?  I haven't found any!  I'd sure like to hear it, but I'm afraid it will make me want one even more. 

[Kyle]

goose and I ran an a/b comparison of 4022's and jw mod 460's (actives/lemo).
It turned out so very close that you can barely hear any diff. Each mic had its own signature sound, but the diff is so intimately small that it would be difficult to describe.
We recorded a 3 piece acoustic ensemble of harp, flute, and viola from 1st row RoC (by design and intent).

WOW

that says a lot about those mod460's!

I talked to JW awhile back about the 460 mod and he said that he thought that it was comparable to the 4011, 402x series of mics  -      thanks Moke for the comp - I have been wanting to do this for some time - here is another reason to get this mod done (once I find another 460 body)