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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #60 on: August 17, 2005, 11:50:16 AM »
Didn't Nick's run a T-Mod w/ AKG 414 ULS ?

He actually ran an O-mod FR-2.  Here's a copy of his DTB recording.  Sounds pretty damn sweet...and it's blumlein!  Yummy.  ;D

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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #61 on: August 17, 2005, 06:18:45 PM »
Anybody here run AKG 460/480 > m148 > V3?  What's the consensus?  I've read the m148 brings the soundstage closer to you while the v3 provides the quality detail.
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #62 on: August 17, 2005, 06:23:02 PM »
Bean has run that combo before...
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #63 on: August 17, 2005, 06:25:04 PM »
Bean has run that combo before...

Just finished PM'ing him about getting some copies.  ;D
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #64 on: August 17, 2005, 06:31:48 PM »
i ran 483>v3 in cinci then 483>148>v3 in deer creek for panic. the latter way smoked but our location was better. i wish i could elaborate but i currently cant play back my dats, but i will say the difference was remarkable. 
mics: (4)akg c460b(a60,mk46,ck1x,ck1,ck2,ck3,ck61,ck63)
pres: oade m148/edirol wmod ua5
recorders: marantz stock671/oade acm671/fostex busman vintage fr2le

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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2005, 06:34:11 PM »
Bean has run that combo before...

Just finished PM'ing him about getting some copies.  ;D

Matt, you D/L my tapes yet??

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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #66 on: August 17, 2005, 07:50:02 PM »
i recall a pic of all the aprts he sent back FWIW

maybe you posted it tho EA

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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #67 on: August 17, 2005, 09:50:14 PM »
Matt, you D/L my tapes yet??

Teddy

Working on it as we speak.  Had shitty download speeds & connectivity problems at work due to thunderstorms.  Just got home and kicked it back on.  Looking forward to hearing it for sure!
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #68 on: August 17, 2005, 09:53:52 PM »
the modded ones do sound fantastic, i had a copy of mod vs. non-mod,a nd the mod was GREAT

Hey Bean.  You still have this mod vs. non-mod comp tape?
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #69 on: August 21, 2005, 11:20:40 AM »
and it's more than a week. i'm going on 2 now. 350 for the mod/pair. i paid 400 for the active cables with the CK1x caps and 350 for the 460 bodies. so i'll have a total of 1100.00 into a nice pair of JW mod 460's with actives. that i hope won't be too bright sounding.

Let me know if their too bright.  I'll take first dibs on the actives & ck1x caps if/when you decide you don't want them   8)  We can work out the details then  ;D

I ran the JW mod 460's for the first time at ABB the other night(8/19). 17th row just slightly right of center. Used the CK1x caps and actives ORTF @110% and *they are bright sounding, mostly the vocals, almost fatiguing*. My ears are used to bright(Nak 1000's, 700's and unmodded 460's)but these seem even brighter, so they will take some getting used to.  Overall, I'm pleased. I was very hesitant in doing the mod, 'cause I really liked the way they sounded unmodded. Unmodded I pulled consistently good sounding tapes. My first impression on the modded version is that they will take a little more thought on setup and position. Maybe not as forgiving.

Again, these are first impressions in a tent covered outdoor amphitheater. Next Sunday I'll be trying them open air with Jdisc/CK62's, and then indoors with CK63's. So I  should have a good idea of their performance in different situations real soon. Report back later.

Tony

*edited my previous statement after a real good listen, were I first thought they were not bright sounding. These puppies are bright, maybe it's the CK1x caps, maybe the mod460/V3 combo, maybe it was the venue/mix. I don't know. The instrumental tracks are very nice, full sounding. Most Gregg vocal tracks are fatiguing to listen to.
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #70 on: August 21, 2005, 02:53:58 PM »
I ran the JW mod 460's for the first time at ABB the other night(8/19).

+T for the new mod mics!
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #71 on: August 26, 2005, 02:55:31 PM »
The search is over!  An opti mod V3 should be here on Tuesday.   ;D

Now to find a m148.  Oh where oh where can one be?   8)
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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #72 on: August 26, 2005, 03:02:00 PM »
The search is over!  An opti mod V3 should be here on Tuesday.   ;D

Now to find a m148.  Oh where oh where can one be?   8)

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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #73 on: August 29, 2005, 02:39:57 PM »
The search is over!  An opti mod V3 should be here on Tuesday.   ;D

Now to find a m148.  Oh where oh where can one be?   8)
So I'm beginning to get the impression that the V3 by itself is not the best unit to run behind these mics. Well I don't think I'll be getting rid of my V3 and I doubt I'll be looking for another pre to run in front of it. So it's either get used to this "new" sound or go back to the unmodded 460's. I ran the CK61 caps and found them to be a little less fatiguing than the CK1x caps but still that in your face sound. I find myself wanting to turn the volume down more often, whereas with the unmodded 460's, I could continually increase the volume with very little fatigue. Anyone else with a V3 feel this way.

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Re: JW Mod 460's > what Pre/ADC?
« Reply #74 on: August 29, 2005, 03:15:57 PM »
The search is over!  An opti mod V3 should be here on Tuesday.   ;D
So I'm beginning to get the impression that the V3 by itself is not the best unit to run behind these mics. Well I don't think I'll be getting rid of my V3 and I doubt I'll be looking for another pre to run in front of it. So it's either get used to this "new" sound or go back to the unmodded 460's. I ran the CK61 caps and found them to be a little less fatiguing than the CK1x caps but still that in your face sound. I find myself wanting to turn the volume down more often, whereas with the unmodded 460's, I could continually increase the volume with very little fatigue. Anyone else with a V3 feel this way.

My V3 gets here tomorrow, so I haven't run it yet.  Hopefully, I won't have the same feelings you do about the mod 460 > V3  :-\

I'm looking forward to hearing the combo though.  If you decide to move away from the 460's I got dibs on your actives and caps  ;)
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