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Oktava MK-012 or CMC-8's for stealthing?
« on: December 05, 2010, 08:40:18 PM »
Which of these microphones do you guys think would produce better results in stealthing situations using a Sony PCM-D50 (plus Denecke PS-2 if using the Oktavas)? I know the Oktavas are low end condenser microphones, but are low end condensers better than mini mirophones like the CMC-8's?

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Re: Oktava MK-012 or CMC-8's for stealthing?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2010, 02:07:38 AM »
The Oktavas are probably better sounding mics, but aren't they quite large (well, normal-sized, versus small like the AT933 aka CMC-8)?  That sort of makes them hard for low-profile recording, I'd think, unless there is an "active" option that allows you to separate the caps from the bodies.... I don't know if there is or not.
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Re: Oktava MK-012 or CMC-8's for stealthing?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2010, 02:09:39 AM »
Thanks..I don't have any problem concealing them though. I've stealthed with AKG 414's before :)

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Re: Oktava MK-012 or CMC-8's for stealthing?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2010, 12:48:33 PM »
If your Jedi skills are that strong I think consensus would be the Oktavas then, in terms of purely sound quality.  But I'd listen to stuff on the archive and see what you prefer.  I have a recording up of the CMC-8 cards used in  >:D mode (despite it being a band that allows taping) on the Archive.
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Re: Oktava MK-012 or CMC-8's for stealthing?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2010, 01:36:27 PM »
Octavas sound better to me than the small mics like the CMC-8s.  If you can stealth them I would go that route.  I've stealthed Neumann KM184s in the past and they quite good...

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Re: Oktava MK-012 or CMC-8's for stealthing?
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2010, 03:00:05 PM »
I know you can get black MK-012's now too. Black may be better for low profile work.
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Re: Oktava MK-012 or CMC-8's for stealthing?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2010, 05:01:39 PM »
One more question - When you guys say the Oktava's would be better sound-quality wise, what exactly are the advantages? Will I be able to record louder music with the Oktava's vs the AT's without experiencing clipping? What are some of the specific sonic quality differences I should expect? Thanks

 

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