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flac to apple lossless on LMA
« on: February 01, 2017, 02:32:55 PM »
I upload in flac to LMA from my PC. Is there any way to have it available as alac or aiff or whatever the Apple equivalent is? Or upload as WAV? TIA, and apologies if this has been covered elsewhere.
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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2017, 06:06:28 PM »
I'm sure this has been covered elsewhere but FLAC is great.

The F in flac stands for FREE just like the A in ALAC stands for Apple.

As an apple victim user, it's handy for me to have Apple's lossless files for my itunes/iphone, but for the rest of the world, and continued availability, FLAC is king.

WAV and AIFF are larger file size for no extra info, in fact, they don't really support the meta-data tags that FLAC and ALAC do...

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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2017, 08:20:36 PM »
In general, the Internet Archive is going to hesitate to implement a platform dependent format. Unfortunately, I'm not even going to request it.

Here is a list of derivatives created for each file type.
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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2017, 08:21:57 PM »
I use FLAC whenever possible also.  But if I need to make ALAC files for whatever reason, I use Foobar 2000 with the appropriate ALAC encoder.  I have various encoders as Foobar components I've accumulated over time, but it seems they've now been collected in an =http://www.foobar2000.org/encoderpackencoder pack.

ALAC seems counter to the ethos of the LMA in my opinion, but if you or your friends have Apple hardware that you want lossless files for, it's what you need to do.
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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2017, 09:02:41 PM »
I upload in flac to LMA from my PC. Is there any way to have it available as alac or aiff or whatever the Apple equivalent is? Or upload as WAV? TIA, and apologies if this has been covered elsewhere.


Yes.  Upload ALAC files to LMA and ALAC files (and derivatives; mp3 etc.) will be displayed.

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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2017, 10:54:08 PM »
ALAC seems counter to the ethos of the LMA in my opinion

I totally agree with Volt on this. :hmmm:

edit: except that I use xACT on a mac, not foobar
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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2017, 05:34:38 AM »
ALAC is both open source and royalty-free (although this wasn't always the case).  Not really platform dependent, either, as the files can easily be played on, for example, Windows computers...

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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2017, 07:46:45 AM »
Ok, so how hard would it be for my apple friends to convert flac to alac, if possible on apple? Right now they can dl mp3, but he would like lossless. I could alway rip some CDs for him.
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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2017, 12:04:33 PM »
Ok, so how hard would it be for my apple friends to convert flac to alac, if possible on apple? Right now they can dl mp3, but he would like lossless. I could alway rip some CDs for him.
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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2017, 07:12:35 PM »
XLD is a nice compliment to xact -- it can transcode 24/96 flac to 24/48 (and convert flac to alac, mp3, mp4, etc.) --

https://sourceforge.net/projects/xld/

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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2017, 09:54:29 PM »
ALAC is both open source and royalty-free (although this wasn't always the case).  Not really platform dependent, either, as the files can easily be played on, for example, Windows computers...

Really?  That's refreshing, considering the source.

And you're right that they're just as easily played in Windows as FLAC, which until recently required a third-party application.  (W10 has native FLAC support.)
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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2017, 10:05:00 PM »
I upload in flac to LMA from my PC. Is there any way to have it available as alac or aiff or whatever the Apple equivalent is? Or upload as WAV? TIA, and apologies if this has been covered elsewhere.


Yes.  Upload ALAC files to LMA and ALAC files (and derivatives; mp3 etc.) will be displayed.

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If you need to convert FLAC to ALAC use xACT and upload the files to LMA.

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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2017, 09:54:59 AM »
There's apps to play flac for apple. I sent my buddy the link. I'll keep uploading as flac.
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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2017, 02:59:39 PM »
Wow, I didn't know this:

ALAC is both open source and royalty-free (although this wasn't always the case).  (snip)

Really?  That's refreshing, considering the source.

And you're right that they're just as easily played in Windows as FLAC, which until recently required a third-party application.  (W10 has native FLAC support.)
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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2017, 06:52:09 PM »
I guess I should clarify my earlier statement: ALAC and FLAC are equal in playback ease in Windows versions prior to Win10, in the sense that neither was supported by the OS or bundled playback apps natively and both required a third-party solution (ex. Foobar, VLC, etc.).  Now the Win10 has native FLAC support, that balance has shifted of course.  I still use Foobar for all of my audio files though, even in Win10.  But it's nice that FLAC will now play natively for all of the Windows users who aren't familiar with those other apps.
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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2017, 07:47:22 PM »
  Now the Win10 has native FLAC support, that balance has shifted of course.
Maybe some day Apple will support FLAC natively.  :tomato:
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2017, 08:26:20 AM »
Wow, I didn't know this:

ALAC is both open source and royalty-free (although this wasn't always the case).  (snip)

Really?  That's refreshing, considering the source.

And you're right that they're just as easily played in Windows as FLAC, which until recently required a third-party application.  (W10 has native FLAC support.)

It has been about five years, give or take, since they opened it up...

ALAC is really convenient if you need to operate in the Apple-verse for whatever reason; in my case, I listen to my old iPod on my extensive commute.  I tried some higher-end players that supported FLAC, but the battery life wasn't great (~ 5 hours), so I switched back (it's like M10 vs. R09).  On the iPod, it's either a wonky third party app, AAC or ALAC.

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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2017, 07:15:29 PM »
Wow, I didn't know this:

ALAC is both open source and royalty-free (although this wasn't always the case).  (snip)

Really?  That's refreshing, considering the source.

And you're right that they're just as easily played in Windows as FLAC, which until recently required a third-party application.  (W10 has native FLAC support.)

It has been about five years, give or take, since they opened it up...

ALAC is really convenient if you need to operate in the Apple-verse for whatever reason; in my case, I listen to my old iPod on my extensive commute.  I tried some higher-end players that supported FLAC, but the battery life wasn't great (~ 5 hours), so I switched back (it's like M10 vs. R09).  On the iPod, it's either a wonky third party app, AAC or ALAC.

Yeah, ALAC definitely has its place.  What I find somewhat amusing is the vast majority of iTunes / iPod users probably have no idea what it is...

Is Rockbox the wonky third-party app you speak of?  I used that for a while on my old iPod 5.5g so I could load it up with FLACs.  It was a headache to set up, but in the days before I had a phone that accepted big microSD cards, it was the only way for me to go portable with lossless files without having to convert to ALAC.
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2017, 09:19:30 AM »
^ No, not Rockbox.  Mine is a 64 GB iPod Touch (not sure exactly which generation), probably five or six years old, so I tried a couple of the apps available for iOS.  One, which was paid, was called FLAC Player.  It was supposed to be good, but hung up regularly.  I also tried a couple of free ones that were similarly afflicted (or worse).  So ALAC it is!  Actually, if my stereo firmware hadn't been upgraded to allow ALAC playback, I probably would have stuck to FLAC and just played AAC on the iPod (it's so noisy on the train that it probably doesn't matter very much)...

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Re: flac to apple lossless on LMA
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2017, 10:20:20 AM »
  Now the Win10 has native FLAC support, that balance has shifted of course.
Maybe some day Apple will support FLAC natively.  :tomato:

that would be great
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