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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #345 on: May 25, 2017, 08:15:43 PM »
Mine just shipped. Worst case scenario it arrives in the afternoon of TAB at Red Rocks (next Wednesday). Hopefully the day before so I don't have to figure things out in the section! (I do have my M10 rig, so I'll have a backup rig going).
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #346 on: May 25, 2017, 10:43:27 PM »
I got my tracking number today from B&H, WOOT! Now I can't wait till it gets here (wednesday probably)!
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #347 on: May 25, 2017, 10:45:12 PM »
I have been waiting for this recorder for a while!  This crushes the competition for me personally.  Big upgrade from my DR-70d

^ I'm drooling a little...

Thanks for the comments and I can't wait to hear more!

Kind of tempted to order from the States and have family re-ship, but I should probably exercise some patience for a change...

Exactly! I already know its about the size of a DR-70D! And I knew this would be a Tascam DR70D/701D and Zoom F4/F8 KILLER :) Hopefully I can order my MixPre6 SOON :)
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #348 on: May 25, 2017, 10:48:27 PM »
I got ahold of someone from SD, and they said that the USB-C port draws NO MORE than 1.5A@MAX ;) So ANY USB Battery with a 2.1A output SHOULD work beautifully!
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #349 on: May 25, 2017, 11:44:52 PM »
After some googling, the USB-C cable situation is more complicated than one might think. Many companies appear to skip the specs although thanks to one Google Engineer many of them are no up to spec. And some companies, ie Apple, introduce their own solutions that go above spec...



https://www.engadget.com/2015/11/04/google-pixel-engineer-vs-shoddy-usb-type-c-cables/

http://www.androidauthority.com/usb-type-c-and-3-1-explained-656552/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/5x948s/answering_your_questions_about_usb_typec/


Although I have bought some, random Chinese cables bought off Ebay make me a little nervous. The Mixpre presumably only draws 1.5 amp so cables lacking the resistors specified in the standard might not be a problem, but I would prefer to have cables that provide protection.

This cable looks good

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3MG5HP7HSRMFL


I would be interested in comments from those who build cables etc and know more about some of the issues...

thanks for doing the legwork. 

this is why i'm not an early adopter of any tech.  i like to read up and watch things shake out.  also, still hoping for that mixpre-10.

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #350 on: May 25, 2017, 11:46:31 PM »
Who's taping what this weekend so we can keep an eye out for some samples of what these sound like and how user friendly they are?
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #351 on: May 25, 2017, 11:54:15 PM »
After some googling, the USB-C cable situation is more complicated than one might think. Many companies appear to skip the specs although thanks to one Google Engineer many of them are no up to spec. And some companies, ie Apple, introduce their own solutions that go above spec...



https://www.engadget.com/2015/11/04/google-pixel-engineer-vs-shoddy-usb-type-c-cables/

http://www.androidauthority.com/usb-type-c-and-3-1-explained-656552/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/5x948s/answering_your_questions_about_usb_typec/


Although I have bought some, random Chinese cables bought off Ebay make me a little nervous. The Mixpre presumably only draws 1.5 amp so cables lacking the resistors specified in the standard might not be a problem, but I would prefer to have cables that provide protection.

This cable looks good

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3MG5HP7HSRMFL


I would be interested in comments from those who build cables etc and know more about some of the issues...

thanks for doing the legwork. 

this is why i'm not an early adopter of any tech.  i like to read up and watch things shake out.  also, still hoping for that mixpre-10.

post plenty of tapes!

Thanks a BUNCH Rippleish :) I have already bought these 2 cheapos from Ebay, so I'll definitely let yinz all know if they work ok once I get my MP6!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162327537413?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=461341515785&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/381770102038?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Also, if anyone wants the BEST USB Chargers/Accessories/Batteries, then look no further than ANKER ;) I have bought all kinds of Anker stuff recently and LOVE all of it so far! I'll also be buying Anker USB batteries to STRICTLY run with my MP6! No more cheap, no brand USB batteries lol! Those will be used with my backup DR-70D from now on!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/331934645975?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Also, if anyone wants some Micro B>C Adapters, I would ONLY buy these Anker ones! They work AMAZING with the Anker Powerline series USBA>Micro B cables that I just bought to replace ALL of my old USB cables! Anyway, these Anker Micro C Adapters have the 56k resistor that makes them work perfectly with the Anker cables I linked above! They allow my Google Pixel phone to be charged at MAXIMUM speed with the Anker USB Chargers I have, and the Anker Powerline USB A>Micro B Cables with the Anker Micro B>C Adapters! So basically what I'm saying is, if you want the BEST USB quality stuff, buy Anker ;) Their prices are MORE than reasonable too!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/222207138721?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #352 on: May 26, 2017, 08:37:53 AM »
These decks are going to decimate the resale value of the 7xx series IMO.  Anyone got a crappy old 702 sitting around that they want to part with?  ;) :P

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #353 on: May 26, 2017, 10:13:37 AM »
Anyone know which resellers are getting stock? I'd like to try and pick one up for a show on 7/8. I figure B&H is probably a safe bet as I'm sure they are a high volume reseller but I could go with Trew or Sweetwater if someone else is more likely to get them in sooner.

Also I'm going to hang on to my 744. It still has at least 2-3 key features that these don't have and remains a reliable 4 channel recorder for our purposes.

EDIT: Found a reseller that had 3 in stock. Should have it in hand next week
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #354 on: May 26, 2017, 11:28:19 AM »
These decks are going to decimate the resale value of the 7xx series IMO.  Anyone got a crappy old 702 sitting around that they want to part with?  ;) :P
agreed as a whole but like johnw said there are a few features the older boxes have that if you use them are of value
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #355 on: May 26, 2017, 11:32:17 AM »
One thing that threw me for a loop is that this records in poly wave files.  I have only had experience with a wave file for each channel or stereo pair.  So, when I saw there was only one file for each dry run test I did, I was like, WTF?  Called SD support and they educated me on poly wave files. Popped it up in audicity and all became clear.
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #356 on: May 26, 2017, 11:34:06 AM »
Got mine in hand.  Two of the three USB C cables I ordered don't send enough power from a USB battery to power more then 2 channels of phantom. The stock one from SD only works on 4 channels if both USB A plugs are plugged in. This is the one that can power 4 phantom channels off a USB battery. https://www.ebay.com/itm/162439366511

Most of the newer 5v batteries have greater output and 2 usb outputs. I would think using the 2 outputs from the same battery will allow powering of all 4 channels with the supplied USB cable,if the battery has sufficient amp output. Here is one I use now:

https://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=15124

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #357 on: May 26, 2017, 11:41:34 AM »
I bought one like this to try out.  I will probably build a dual right angle > USB C this weekend.

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #358 on: May 26, 2017, 11:53:42 AM »
Can anyone help me out here on the 3?  I am confused on how many channels it can record.  The manual says, "The MixPre-3 can record up to five audio tracks at 96kHz, 24-bit to SD cards
(SD, SDHC, or SDXC) using the industry standard .WAV file format."

I would like to use 2 of the XLR inputs for mics and the stereo mini in for a stereo soundboard.  Can it record 4 separate tracks? 

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #359 on: May 26, 2017, 11:55:10 AM »
One thing that threw me for a loop is that this records in poly wave files.  I have only had experience with a wave file for each channel or stereo pair.  So, when I saw there was only one file for each dry run test I did, I was like, WTF?  Called SD support and they educated me on poly wave files. Popped it up in audicity and all became clear.

Boo. I use Wavelab and I don't think it plays nice with poly files. At least it didn't on version 5 when I accidentally recorded 4 channels as poly when I had the R4.
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