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Schoeps beginner?
« on: September 21, 2005, 02:15:45 PM »
Hello,

For someone interested in using Schoeps (not me), what is the entry level setup for (stealth) concert taping with Schoeps?
What capsules would be nice, what A/D and/or pre to get with that without spending too much but still having a decently balanced setup?

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Re: Schoeps beginner?
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2005, 02:20:47 PM »
Heh...Schoeps "without spending too much".  lol

For stealth, I'd have to say:

MK4 (cardioid) or MK41 (supercardioid)
custom actives + NBox or KCY cable + Sonosax SX-M2/LS2
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Re: Schoeps beginner?
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2005, 02:25:44 PM »
schoeps and entry level are 2 words that don't go together too well. ;D

I would recommend the mk41's first...mk4's second. Brian highlighted the rest of your options nicely.
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Re: Schoeps beginner?
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2005, 01:46:03 AM »
Thanks for the replies. Where can I find more info on the nbox (brand?) and active cables?

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Re: Schoeps beginner?
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2005, 01:50:50 AM »
Thanks for the replies. Where can I find more info on the nbox (brand?) and active cables?

do a search here:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?action=search
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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Re: Schoeps beginner?
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2005, 10:47:51 AM »
Thanks for the replies. Where can I find more info on the nbox (brand?) and active cables?

do a search here:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?action=search
Thanks, did search but the source for nbox remains a bit vague. Will relay the info to the `beginner`  ;D

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Re: Schoeps beginner?
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2005, 11:26:45 AM »
yeah, I would stay start with the 4's, I see them as having more applications than the 41's.
I sold my 41's when phish stopped playing, just never really used them outside of an arena
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Re: Schoeps beginner?
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2005, 11:36:54 AM »
Where can I find more info on the nbox (brand?) and active cables?

NBox is a custom box with custom actives.  Contact Alex, he has the info you want.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2006, 02:12:25 PM by m0k3 »
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Re: Schoeps beginner?
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2005, 11:43:44 AM »
Where can I find more info on the nbox (brand?) and active cables?

NBox is a custom box with custom actives.  Contact Alex, he has the info you want.

or you could get a vms02ib, it was on ebay last week (not mine..)

another active setup that uses stock kcy (active cable) without modifications and is self-powered.
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Re: Schoeps beginner?
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2005, 03:53:00 PM »
interesting...I used my 41's way more than my 4's when I had both..something about the mk4 I never really liked...hard to put my finger on, made some good pulls with them, but always liked the 41's better....
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Re: Schoeps beginner?
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2005, 04:20:34 AM »
BTW: Nbox is the most compact solution for powering Schoeps?

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Re: Schoeps beginner?
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2005, 10:21:19 AM »
BTW: Nbox is the most compact solution for powering Schoeps?

You could use the CMBI battery powered mic body.  I don't think the active cables are compatible with the CMBI.
http://www.schoeps.de/E-2004/cmbi.html

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Re: Schoeps beginner?
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2005, 01:26:54 PM »
BTW: Nbox is the most compact solution for powering Schoeps?

AFAIK, yes, though the Sonosax SX-M2/LS2 (i.e. Lemosax) isn't much bigger and isn't difficult to get into venues, past patdowns, IME.
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Re: Schoeps beginner?
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2005, 08:22:20 PM »
Check out this for a nice example (with pics) of a Schoeps starter rig:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=47950.0
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Re: Schoeps beginner?
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2005, 04:37:10 PM »
what about the CCM series? i don't know anything about schoeps pricing, and i realize you lose the possibility of changing capsules, but, isn't there a significant price difference between MK4s, KC5s, and CMC6s vs. a set of CCM4's? 

 

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