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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2007, 08:59:12 PM »
the JW mods have really grown on me.  very fast, detailed transients.  Excellently tight bass.
I was going to dump them for 480 bodies, but now i'm completely happy w/what I'm hearing out of them.

fwiw...love them XY

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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2007, 09:01:51 PM »
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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2007, 09:21:11 PM »
is that stock vs jwmod comp still floating around somewhere? I have a nicer playback setup now that I'd like to try it out with... back when I first heard it I didn't notice a huge difference.

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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2007, 09:45:22 PM »
is that stock vs jwmod comp still floating around somewhere? I have a nicer playback setup now that I'd like to try it out with... back when I first heard it I didn't notice a huge difference.

Mikey put it up on Tapers.org:

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,52183.msg900272.html#msg900272
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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2007, 09:45:53 PM »
interesting nick - you seem to be more of a fan of XY in general, but I haven't really been happy with the results the few times ive run the JW mods XY, but I wasn't really a fan of XY with the C4s either.

where do you usually run XY from or does it not matter?


is that stock vs jwmod comp still floating around somewhere? I have a nicer playback setup now that I'd like to try it out with... back when I first heard it I didn't notice a huge difference.

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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2007, 09:57:51 PM »
Thanks guys! +t's around...

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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2007, 10:00:20 PM »
edit: matt beat me to it  ;D

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What's up, Mikey?  Long time no talk.  Hope all is well.  Thanks again for up'n the comp to the FTP!  +T
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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2007, 11:33:42 PM »
edit: matt beat me to it  ;D

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What's up, Mikey?  Long time no talk.  Hope all is well.  Thanks again for up'n the comp to the FTP!  +T

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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2007, 07:24:57 AM »
interesting nick - you seem to be more of a fan of XY in general, but I haven't really been happy with the results the few times ive run the JW mods XY, but I wasn't really a fan of XY with the C4s either.

where do you usually run XY from or does it not matter?


I run them from far...and I run them from near.
I run them all over.  I just like the way XY prserves whatever imaging the PA is spitting out (from way back) , Plus it is the most "wind friendly" setup you can have w/a pair of mics. 
I like DIN and ORTF too, but coincident just does it for me.  sounds more natural to my ear.

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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #54 on: August 14, 2007, 08:08:25 AM »
:cheers:

doin well, busy with lots of summer shows  ;D

how you liking the dpas?

Love them.  They rock.   8)
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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #55 on: August 15, 2007, 08:05:36 PM »
Nick, I'm listening to your 08-12 RatDog recording...

I wasn't expecting it to sound so analytical. It has a very *exact* sound to it. Probably not the best words, but analytical/ exact are the first words that pop in my head.

I guess that's the JW460 sound, as I am starting to hear it in the old C460/ JW-C460/ C480 comparrisions.

In listening to those comparissions, I right away gravitate to the 480 recording, followed by the stock C460's.

Since I am getting a pair of stock C460's soon, of course, I have am considering whether to get them JW moded or not...

When I listen to the comps, I hear the stock C460's as sounding more coloured than the other two. But to my ears, more organic, in a good way.

Hearing that Brad, Shawn and rokpunk like the stock mic's surprised me a bit, before I listened to the comps, but now I see/ hear what they mean.

As always, it's great to exchange thoughts and opinions. Seeing this thread is what got me thinking about buying a pair of the C460's.
Thanks for the heads up, as being able to run my C480's side by side with the C460's for a while will let me experiment more than I usually do, which hopefully will be educational.

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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #56 on: August 15, 2007, 08:57:25 PM »
I always liked and still do like the stock 460 sound... loooking forward to running actives into the 702...

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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #57 on: August 15, 2007, 11:10:18 PM »
interesting nick - you seem to be more of a fan of XY in general, but I haven't really been happy with the results the few times ive run the JW mods XY, but I wasn't really a fan of XY with the C4s either.

where do you usually run XY from or does it not matter?


I run them from far...and I run them from near.
I run them all over.  I just like the way XY prserves whatever imaging the PA is spitting out (from way back) , Plus it is the most "wind friendly" setup you can have w/a pair of mics. 
I like DIN and ORTF too, but coincident just does it for me.  sounds more natural to my ear.

I never used to dig XY with my old mics (Studio Projects C4s), but I have really started to like it with my new-to-me 460s.  I like how the warmness of the 460s blends with the tightness of the XY pattern.

Not to pimp my shit out, but here are some recent 460 XY recordings I did:

Ratdog at the Greek in LA:
http://www.archive.org/details/rd2007-07-28.akg460.flac16

Ratdog out here in AZ at an outdoor festival:
http://www.archive.org/details/rd2007-04-27.akg460.flac16
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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #58 on: August 15, 2007, 11:49:37 PM »
Can the CK1/2/3x active caps be run with a lemo > miniXLR cable into the standard 9V 3-wire battery boxes that are commonplace around these parts now?

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Re: AKG c460 thoughts...
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2007, 12:14:08 AM »
I've seen a lot of references to the c460 around, this thread being a prime example, so I suppose they must exist, but... there ain't no such thing on the AKG website. After c451 it goes to the c480. Wut up wid dat? Thanks!

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