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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2009, 11:55:52 AM »
Sure, 'OK' is in the ear of the listener. You might like 10" better. Listening with the phones is just a way of dialing it in right there at the venue instead of trying various spacings over the course of several recordings to see what works well.  It's a big time saver if you care to play around with the spacing.
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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2009, 01:21:43 PM »
try the Shure A27M to align the 480s on the same vertical plane

or try to find some AKG a61 swivels

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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2009, 06:58:45 PM »
try the Shure A27M to align the 480s on the same vertical plane

or try to find some AKG a61 swivels


Yup the A27 would allow you to move the whole thing in front, put on your windscreens and adjust to any spacing you like with one mic over top of the other.
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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2009, 07:56:47 PM »
You're going to have a problem if you can't get your capsules aligned in the plane parallel with the stage.  This type of recording relies primarily on differences in arrival times to create the stereo image. If one capsule is in front of the other you're going to skew the image and perhaps invite some phase issues. Do what you can to get them in vertical alignment as you look down from above!

would it be a problem to have one over the other?
That's what i thought. Thanks.

Nope the sound will arrive at the same time on the vertical axis in this case.

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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2009, 09:55:06 PM »
so healy is intended for LD mics?  i had no idea.



actually know, the opposite actually. LDs don't have a truely omni directional cap, its two caps used to create the omni effect. From what I've read over the years (Moke knows more about this) on this board true healy requires SD mics.
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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #50 on: August 06, 2009, 08:50:31 AM »
so healy is intended for LD mics?  i had no idea.



actually know, the opposite actually. LDs don't have a truely omni directional cap, its two caps used to create the omni effect. From what I've read over the years (Moke knows more about this) on this board true healy requires SD mics.

Just use a pair of these babies with 90-degree XLR connectors:

http://www.naiant.com/xqspecification.html

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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2009, 02:57:35 PM »
So I've been tinkering with some DIY ideas and this is what I came up with. I can't remember the part names but most came from Home Depot and all together I think materials without the shock mounts was under $10. This is just the prototype that will be flying at ABB @ RR tomorrow.

Got a question though, is it okay for the mic connections to barely touch the windscreens? I've got a 9" split going there and the mics are 1 1/4" apart...in case you would like to know that. Here are some pics...









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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2009, 03:06:12 PM »
That looks great Amaro!
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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2009, 03:17:50 PM »
Looks exactly how I run Healy with my 480's except i'm using a Shure Vert Bar instead of a homemade mount.




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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2009, 10:53:00 PM »
Light weight: Sound Pro AT 831 or MBHO's > tinybox > D7 or Samson PM4's > Denecke PS-2 > D7
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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2009, 09:50:03 AM »
Windscreens on omnis = belt w/suspenders*... don't worry about the gear touching.

I thought that the wind at 10KLF was howling a little more than usual this year.  There were several where I ran "dead ratz + big ass shures" on omnis...  :o   Looking forward to seeing you there in 2010.
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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2013, 02:06:17 PM »
been trying out the healy method onstage. i really like it. i wanna get some better omnis but overall these Sonic Studios DSM-6P arent so bad

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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2014, 09:59:08 AM »
Here's a recent show i recorded using the Healy method.  I like how it came out, New Mastersounds, onstage recording.  Despite some loss of imaging, you do get some separation on the highs (due to the inherent properties of omnis). 

I think this setup can have some advantages over more directional mics in this type of setting (onstage, with a band that has a setup such as theirs, i.e. the drummer not centered on stage - he's on the far left, and rather close to the front of the stage).  While a set of cards or sub cards would provide better separation, you'd end up with a recording that is a bit less balanced in terms of the drums on the left channel.  This is where relatively close-spaced omnis such as this setup can shine.  The drums end up sounding reasonably centered, but you still get a nice stereo image. 
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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #58 on: May 26, 2015, 10:32:08 AM »
What are peoples thoughts on using 4061s in the Healy Split?
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Re: the Healy Method???
« Reply #59 on: May 26, 2015, 11:19:44 AM »
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The miniature DPAs are so tiny they are more or less a truly omnidirectional omni across all audible frequencies. Unlike larger omnis, they have hardly any directionality at all even up into the highest regions.

With a pair of omnis that close together, the resulting recording is going to be quite mono-phonic.  Heally method is predominantly monophonic from the lows up into the midrange.  Using larger omnis which are more directional up top, and pointing them 180 degrees apart provides some stereo difference at the highest frequencies.  With microphones as small as the 4061, a 180-degree orientation instead of a 0-degree orientation will make very little difference.

If I needed to use the 4061 that close together I'd place some sort of baffle in between them,  tape them to the opposite sides of something, or mount them in the foam balls I use as DIY acoustic pressure equalization spheres.  All of those things will make them more directional at high frequencies.  Barring those things, I'd mount them farther apart.
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