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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 2)
« Reply #270 on: April 01, 2010, 01:59:50 PM »
I am a violinist and will use this mostly for solo and chamber music performances.   ...
The cello sample on Wingfieldaudio.com of the M10 sounds a little covered or filtered to my ears.

I suggest you start a thread to discuss your requirements in more detail.  The right mics are especially critical for that demanding application.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 2)
« Reply #271 on: April 01, 2010, 04:11:38 PM »

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Re: new firmware?
« Reply #272 on: April 01, 2010, 10:16:23 PM »
Just got the slick m10 today and it has firmware version 1.00. Is this the most current or do you guys have something higher?

I like the fact you don't necessarily need to turn it off because any button quickly wakes it up but is there way to reduce it from 10 minutes?
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 2)
« Reply #273 on: April 02, 2010, 12:02:17 AM »
how do you check which firmware you have?
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 2)
« Reply #274 on: April 02, 2010, 12:04:23 AM »
how do you check which firmware you have?

press and hold stop button on the standard screen.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 2)
« Reply #275 on: April 02, 2010, 12:04:47 AM »
Firmware is 1.00 for all - apparently Sony don't usually do firmware upgrades on their recorders.  No, you can't change the sleep time.

I've left my sleeping for several weeks now and I notice the battery is about half empty according to the display.   So it will run down, slowly, in that mode.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 2)
« Reply #276 on: April 07, 2010, 06:11:45 PM »
Anyone know if the Cross-Memory Recording feature starts a file seamlessly or not?  I know the 2GB File split is seamless just curious about the cross-memory recording.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 2)
« Reply #277 on: April 15, 2010, 03:04:06 PM »
Hi,

I just purchased the PCM-M10 and I noticed the "REC" button was stiffer than the other buttons. Just want to make sure I didn't get a defective unit. Does anyone else have the PCM-M10 and notice the rec button is stiffer than the others?

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 2)
« Reply #278 on: April 15, 2010, 03:31:51 PM »
Does anyone else have the PCM-M10 and notice the rec button is stiffer than the others?

Mine seems to be somewhat stiffer as well. I noticed that not all buttons show the same resistance when being pushed.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 2)
« Reply #279 on: April 16, 2010, 01:44:32 AM »
I recorded my first concert tonight. I have not received my CA-14s yet, so I recorded with the internal mics. The show was William Parker-Hamid Drake-Evan Parker. I was seated in the third row. Since I am new to taping I wanted to get an idea of how comfortable I would feel. I simply had the PCM-M10 in my shirt pocket and enjoyed the show. It obviously is not an audiophile recording, but it gives me hope that I will be able to get a decent sound when I receive my mics and preamp.

Here is the last last piece performed if anyone has an interest.

http://rapidshare.com/files/376434364/WParker-HDrake-EParker_t05.flac

Mics: Schoeps CCM 4; DPA 4060; SP-CMC-25
Power: Naiant Tinybox; SP battery box
Recorder: Sony PCM-M10

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 2)
« Reply #280 on: April 23, 2010, 02:29:11 PM »
is $275 the best price around for a m10??
has anyone used the sony case that comes free from B+H?
is it worth paying tax in NY in order to get the case?
thanks
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 2)
« Reply #281 on: April 23, 2010, 02:33:27 PM »
is $275 the best price around for a m10??
has anyone used the sony case that comes free from B+H?
is it worth paying tax in NY in order to get the case?
thanks

I bought mine from B&H and I think $275 was the price with case. The case is a durable hardshell. You could drop this off a one story building with no fear.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 2)
« Reply #282 on: April 23, 2010, 02:53:02 PM »
is $275 the best price around for a m10??
has anyone used the sony case that comes free from B+H?
is it worth paying tax in NY in order to get the case?
thanks

$275 is the best price on B&H until like end of June. I haven't seen any of these m10s in the yard sale so I don't think people are selling them since they couldn't have had it very long at all.

The case is very nice and durable but it is not practical for the pocket so just take it out of the case and put the m10 in your pocket. The case has enough room for the recorder and memory cards...no batteries but with the incredible battery life, that won't be an issue.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 2)
« Reply #283 on: April 23, 2010, 10:07:42 PM »
is this post from part 1 http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=124639.msg1697107#msg1697107
talking about recording at 16 vs 24, basically stating that in 24 bit you are recording 8 bits of noise
referring to using the internal mics?
if i go mics > littlebox > m10 is it still not worth going 24bit??
thanks

and thanks to those who answered about the price and case
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 2)
« Reply #284 on: April 23, 2010, 11:17:53 PM »
I would go mics > littlebox > m10 (line) @ 24/48

I love this thing.  I've only had it a few weeks now but have taped probably 10 different sets and it is awesome.

I usually run DPA4061 > CA-9100 > M10 (Kine) @ 24/48...which is why I recommended it above.

And I did not see this mentioned anywhere...but I ran my preamp at full and the recording volume on the M10 @ 2.5 on the dial and the recording smokes! No distortion/excess noise, etc. that I could tell.

Somehwere someone mentioned keeping the recording dial at 5 - 6 for unity gain...but I think that only applies to going mic in.  Is that correct?
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