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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2004, 02:19:37 AM »
All I do is stealthing, so if its OK I'll add my 2p.

I've been using the following for nearly a year, mostly in small clubs:

Sound Professionals CMC2: $119
Sound Professionals Battery box w/bass roll off: $79
Nomad JB3: $179 off ebay

On your budget, don't bother with an external A>D. I've made some terrific sounding recordings using the above setup.

You can always add it later, but I've not felt this necessary yet.

The bass roll off option on the battery box will reduce the heavy bass you get at some concerts and is recommended.

Not tried recording larger venues, but be warned the one time I tried them outside, I got some wind buffeting on the recording.
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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #46 on: February 15, 2004, 02:30:03 AM »
I think it should be ok in an enclosed arena.  What exactly does an external A/D accomplish?  :headphones:

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2004, 02:43:49 AM »
I think it should be ok in an enclosed arena.  What exactly does an external A/D accomplish?  :headphones:

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[4]  analog-to-digital converter (ADC)
The ADC translates into the digital domain (0s and 1s) the analog signal coming from our powered microphones and through our gain stage.  Once the signal has been translated from analog to digital, then all we have to do is store those 0s and 1s somewhere.

Whether you need an external A>D with the Nomad is a matter of opinion - as I said I've made some great recordings using the Nomads internal A>D.

Thing is I've not heard of anyone prepared to possibly ruin a recording by taping part of it with, and without an external A>D - anyone done this comparison with a Nomad?
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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #48 on: February 15, 2004, 02:54:12 AM »
Just a question.  Why wouldn't the internal one be as good as the external one?   :headphones:

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #49 on: February 15, 2004, 03:00:39 AM »
Well...  This is looking like my rig so far:

SP-CMC-2 >>> SP-SPSB-2B >>> JB3


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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2004, 04:25:03 AM »
Just a question.  Why wouldn't the internal one be as good as the external one?   :headphones:

Just found a good discussion on A>Ds here:

http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=1893
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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2004, 04:44:44 AM »
Ok, so I just read up on it, but the main question is, will it make the recording sound better considering it's all beginner's stuff?  (Mics, batt box, etc?)   :headphones:
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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2004, 04:51:10 AM »
Yes. Get an AD-20 for that setup if you can swing the cash.

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2004, 05:04:00 AM »
Alright.  I'm glad I'm getting straight up answers.  As for the batt box.  Which one should I get?  They have a few different options.   :headphones:

Thanks for the second day of help.  This place is great, but I need to get some sleep.  I'll definitely be back tomorrow.

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2004, 10:46:39 AM »
No, they never did.  What exactly did you hear about it?  :headphones:

I'm not sure where I heard this.  ??? Maybe it was in association with their fight against Napster... ???
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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2004, 11:40:02 AM »
Batt boxes--get either SP's -6 or -1.  I think the other one on their site (-3) doesn't use a 9V batt, and that's a pain.  And I would definitely get the bass roll-off option.  I ended up building my own batt box, and have been pleased with it, but I am now regretting that I didn't get a bass roll off option (I have mics purchased from SP, the AT-853).

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #56 on: February 15, 2004, 06:57:16 PM »
No, they never did.  What exactly did you hear about it?  :headphones:

I'm not sure where I heard this.  ??? Maybe it was in association with their fight against Napster... ???

Oh, it's just one of those myths that arised during that time period.  I'm looking for good refurbed JB3s on ebay.  :headphones:

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #57 on: February 15, 2004, 07:08:52 PM »
mp-2

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #58 on: February 15, 2004, 07:15:09 PM »
mp-2

Err, I'm not sure I follow.

Also, has anyone ran this setup in high dB situations like this?  Now that I have my rig pretty much finalized, I'm going to have some specific questions.   :headphones:
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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #59 on: February 15, 2004, 07:23:46 PM »
if you were looking to get an external preamp, I was recommending the sounddevices mp-2.

as for the battery box, I would recommend the Sp-SpSB-1 as I am not familiar with the -2b

 

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