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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #330 on: April 23, 2018, 01:54:05 PM »
That's perfect.  What part of the wood clamp are you attaching to?
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #331 on: April 23, 2018, 02:15:14 PM »
That's perfect.  What part of the wood clamp are you attaching to?
in that picture the Windtech clamp is attached to the handle of the wood clamp! I typically try to attach to the long metal end.
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #332 on: April 23, 2018, 02:18:38 PM »
The long metal part looks sort of thin...are you able to get a good grip on it with the Windtech?
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #333 on: April 23, 2018, 02:51:23 PM »
The long metal part looks sort of thin...are you able to get a good grip on it with the Windtech?

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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #334 on: April 23, 2018, 04:23:55 PM »
bonus points for clamping to the clamps.

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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #335 on: April 23, 2018, 04:48:35 PM »
bonus points for clamping to clamps.

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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #336 on: April 23, 2018, 04:48:45 PM »
Sometimes the best clamp is no clamp.

I've started column clamping without using a clamp, running a heavy-duty velcro strap (or 2) around a column which looks like the one Rocksuitcase posted a photo of above.

The velcro strap material is 1-3/4 wide, cut from a big roll similar to gaff-tape. It has hooks on one side, loops on the other, so can stick to itself at any length.  I have two 5' or so lengths of it which roll up compactly in the bag without weight penalty and any worry of nicking anything in the bag.  They now cohabitate in there all the time.

I use them to strap either my entire mini-stand to the column (going around both the column and stand, with the stand legs folded up), or just the mic-bar and threaded extension long enough to get a good secure strap around, which is considerably smaller than the Manfrotto stand, depending on the situation. 

Excess strap length just gets wrapped around an extra time or two.  I pass the mic cables through the last wrap as strain-relief and to keep the cables tight to the column. The velcro holds securely, is easily adjusted, doesn't mar the surface or damage anything, and the entire rig goes up really fast.  That limits time standing on chairs fixing clamps and disrupting the goings on, keeping things smooth with venue owners and staff and remaining low-key and off-radar for the most part with the other patrons.

Also works for securing a stand to a fence, railing or whatever.  In that case it secures things from wobbling or toppling, but is not rigidly "rotation locking" like a clamp unless both straps are used with a foot or two of spacing between them.
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #337 on: April 23, 2018, 07:55:26 PM »
Sometimes the best clamp is no clamp.

I've started column clamping without using a clamp, running a heavy-duty velcro strap (or 2) around a column which looks like the one Rocksuitcase posted a photo of above.

The velcro strap material is 1-3/4 wide, cut from a big roll similar to gaff-tape. It has hooks on one side, loops on the other, so can stick to itself at any length.  I have two 5' or so lengths of it which roll up compactly in the bag without weight penalty and any worry of nicking anything in the bag.  They now cohabitate in there all the time.

I use them to strap either my entire mini-stand to the column (going around both the column and stand, with the stand legs folded up), or just the mic-bar and threaded extension long enough to get a good secure strap around, which is considerably smaller than the Manfrotto stand, depending on the situation. 

Excess strap length just gets wrapped around an extra time or two.  I pass the mic cables through the last wrap as strain-relief and to keep the cables tight to the column. The velcro holds securely, is easily adjusted, doesn't mar the surface or damage anything, and the entire rig goes up really fast.  That limits time standing on chairs fixing clamps and disrupting the goings on, keeping things smooth with venue owners and staff and remaining low-key and off-radar for the most part with the other patrons.

Also works for securing a stand to a fence, railing or whatever.  In that case it secures things from wobbling or toppling, but is not rigidly "rotation locking" like a clamp unless both straps are used with a foot or two of spacing between them.
I just picket up these uline velcro straps at Ace hardware the other day, they worked great. Got a few different sizes.
https://m.uline.com/h5/r/www.uline.com/BL_6602/Velcro-Brand-Cinch-Straps

The picture in this archive link you can see them in use.
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #338 on: May 12, 2018, 11:52:04 AM »
I tried the Gutbucket method of lashing my stand to the column.  It worked reasonably well, but the stand was still exposed to the tide of stumbling wooks.  At least at this venue, I'll get a proper wood clamp and try that method next time (you can see a rig behind mine using the wood clamp method).
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #339 on: May 12, 2018, 12:28:00 PM »
I tried the Gutbucket method of lashing my stand to the column.  It worked reasonably well, but the stand was still exposed to the tide of stumbling wooks.  At least at this venue, I'll get a proper wood clamp and try that method next time (you can see a rig behind mine using the wood clamp method).
Interesting - thanks for always taking a pic and sharing! Did no one run a stand last night?
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #340 on: May 12, 2018, 12:41:22 PM »
Here's the best I can remember (names are to the best of my recollection...I met all these guys for the first time last night):

  • Roy ran a stand by the board
  • Scott ran two pairs of DPAs on stage
  • A guy whose name I can't remember (and I feel really bad about that because he was extremely nice) ran the rig attached to the wood clamp near the "taper nook."  I believe he also ran DPAs.
  • I had my rig on the first column closest to the stage.  There was another guy with a very small rig who taped his mics to the column.

I know there were more people recording but that's the best I can do from memory.
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #341 on: May 12, 2018, 02:04:49 PM »
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #342 on: May 12, 2018, 05:52:19 PM »
I tried the Gutbucket method of lashing my stand to the column.  It worked reasonably well, but the stand was still exposed to the tide of stumbling wooks.  At least at this venue, I'll get a proper wood clamp and try that method next time (you can see a rig behind mine using the wood clamp method).
What venue is that? Who was playing?
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« Reply #343 on: May 12, 2018, 06:18:27 PM »
What venue is that? Who was playing?
Be On Key Psychedelic Ripple in Denver.  A great little deadhead venue. This show was Garaj Mahal.
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #344 on: May 12, 2018, 07:32:04 PM »
What venue is that? Who was playing?
Be On Key Psychedelic Ripple in Denver.  A great little deadhead venue. This show was Garaj Mahal.

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