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Record player/ Turntable recommendations?
« on: June 02, 2012, 07:14:30 PM »
I am looking to get nice entry level turntable set up. I would like to keep it under 400$ but another 50-100 won't break
the bank either. I am mostly looking to play my records with an occasional wave transfer(24/48). I already have a receiver
with a phono input so usb/phono preamp built-in doesn't matter. I just want a quality turntable with a decent cartridge
out of the box. I was leaning towards the Rega RP1 but after reading "Acidjack's" thread I am hesitant.

Here is what I have been looking at.


Music Hall USB-1 250$
http://www.insound.com/Music-Hall-USB-1-Turntable-TURNTABLE-Music-Hall/P/INS78593/

Pro-ject Audio Essential Turntable 300$
http://www.insound.com/Essential-Turntable-Black-TURNTABLE-Pro-Ject-Audio/P/INS102015/

Pro-ject Audio Essential Phono USB Turntable 400$
http://www.insound.com/Essential-Phono-USB-Turntable-Black-TURNTABLE-Pro-Ject-Audio/P/INS102018/

Pro-Ject Debut USB Turntable 400$
http://www.needledoctor.com/s.nl/it.A/id.8533/.f?sc=2&category=46

Rega RP1  445$
http://www.insound.com/RP1-Turntable-Cool-Grey-TURNTABLE-Rega/P/INS94393/

Music Hall MMF2.2 450$
http://www.insound.com/Music-Hall-MMF-22-with-Tracker-Cartridge-Gloss-Black-TURNTABLE-Music-Hall/P/INS70687/

Thorens TD-158 Turntable 450$
http://www.insound.com/TD-158-Turntable-TURNTABLE-Thorens/P/INS67101/

thanks in advance for any help/advice.
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Re: Record player/ Turntable recommendations?
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2012, 02:28:51 AM »
I can't make any LP Rotater recommendations, but I can recommend that you check out your local CraigsList...  There always seems to be a noteworthy Disc-Spinner on mine:

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http://raleigh.craigslist.org/ele/3039062974.html

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Re: Record player/ Turntable recommendations?
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2012, 08:46:38 AM »
I've heard good things about the new Pro-Ject Debut Carbon. Seems silly to go with the standard Debut at the same price:

http://www.needledoctor.com/Pro-Ject-Debut-Carbon-in-Black?sc=2&category=352

I have the Pro-Ject RM 1.3 and have been pretty happy with it. I like that the belt is easily changeable for 33 / 45 rpm as my collection contains a lot of 45 rpm records.

http://www.needledoctor.com/Pro-Ject-RPM1-3-Turntable-in-Black?sc=2&category=352
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Re: Record player/ Turntable recommendations?
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2012, 12:34:23 PM »
You can save alot of money by buying a used table
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Re: Record player/ Turntable recommendations?
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2012, 12:52:24 PM »
Very happy Project Debut owner here...
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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2012, 04:58:46 PM »
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Re: Record player/ Turntable recommendations?
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2012, 08:25:29 AM »
I had a Rega P-1, replaced it with a thorens used deck and ended up with the Rega p3-24, which i still have.  I agree you can get alot of value out of used decks, but I have enjoyed the regas i have owned more than the used deck...

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Re: Record player/ Turntable recommendations?
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2012, 04:36:08 PM »
Buy a used Rega then - you can save a bunch!
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Re: Record player/ Turntable recommendations?
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2012, 04:44:28 PM »
Nick,
Are you running the outboard speed controller on the P3-24?

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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2012, 09:24:27 PM »
Nick,
Are you running the outboard speed controller on the P3-24?

yup...didnt think it would make a difference, but the difference was more than subtle...seemed to tighten up the lower end...

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Re: Record player/ Turntable recommendations?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2012, 12:49:48 AM »
The P3-24 that I had ran fast in both speeds, which would bass notes seem a bit higher pitched. This seems to be an issue with them, and not just the one that I had (sold it).  The controller probably slows the speed down to a proper pitch, thusly making the bass sound different, tighter.

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Re: Record player/ Turntable recommendations?
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2012, 10:18:01 AM »
I never noticed that it ran fast, but that wouldnt surprise me...I always heard that Regas were a tad fast in their entire product line.

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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2012, 01:33:22 PM »
I don't know how experienced you are with vinyl, but I am not experienced at all and bought a Rega RP-1 on someone else's recommendation for an "entry level" TT.  I probably would not buy one again if given the choice and instead would go for a cheaper Technics or get a used TT and pay someone to put a new cartridge in it.  The Rega is marketed as "idiot proof" but still required me to spend yet more money on crap to set it up with, because the "idiot proof" settings it came with were totally wrong and it came with virtually no instructions (the last TT I owned was a totally automatic thing that was pretty much a piece of junk that I had in the mid-90s).  With the Rega, you also have to remove the platter and manually change over the belt to play 45s, which I find to be a huge PITA.  Also, it is made in the UK and the service is pretty much non-existent (keep in mind, I am in NYC, and the person they told me to call in NYC refused to service it).  While it sounds good, as someone who wanted something "entry level" I'd have been happy with something slightly lower in pure quality that could easily play 45s and had an actual service network. 

Obviously a used TT is less expensive, but you'd probably want to replace the cartridge unless you trusted the history you were given.  If you're good at replacing cartridges I'd almost definitely say to get a used TT and new cartridge before I'd drop $450 on the Rega.
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2012, 01:51:02 PM »
In regards to buying a NEW TT...I would HIGHLY suggest buying one from a reputable LOCAL dealer vs. buying on the interwebs. I don't think it's worth saving a few bucks on tax to give up the service. A TT requires a little bit of knowledge to set up, and while there is no reason you can't do it yourself, I found that it was really nice to have my local shop set mine up with their fancy do-dads and gizmos that I'd prefer not to buy (and if I did to rarely use).

Heck, if you want to buy used, you can probably say the same thing.

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Re: Record player/ Turntable recommendations?
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2012, 01:52:05 PM »
In regards to buying a NEW TT...I would HIGHLY suggest buying one from a reputable LOCAL dealer vs. buying on the interwebs. I don't think it's worth saving a few bucks on tax to give up the service. A TT requires a little bit of knowledge to set up, and while there is no reason you can't do it yourself, I found that it was really nice to have my local shop set mine up with their fancy do-dads and gizmos that I'd prefer not to buy (and if I did to rarely use).

Heck, if you want to buy used, you can probably say the same thing.

Amps, speakers, cables, etc...go ahead and buy on the internet if you want, but it's still nice to have that shop to go to when you have questions...and it's nice to support your local shop.

So true, and another lesson I learned the hard way....
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