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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2015, 10:10:02 PM »
any reason why in particular the M10 is far and away the choice?  R-05 is $50 cheaper new.
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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2015, 12:50:34 AM »
any reason why in particular the M10 is far and away the choice?  R-05 is $50 cheaper new.

The battery life is better. Lots and lots about other reasons elsewhere.
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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2015, 09:30:46 AM »
I've never once had battery issues with the R09HR, and I assume the R05 is even better. Eneloops FTW.  So batteries aren't a huge deal.
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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2015, 09:44:31 AM »
I've heard a few cases of these dieing and no reports of that with the M10.  I owned one for a short time, but preferred the M10.
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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2015, 02:43:02 PM »
Well over 3-1/2 years later and I'm still happy with my R-05.  Plenty of battery life with Eneloops and the use of regular SD cards as opposed to the MicroSD is nice.  Have run a SD MixPre into it on a few occasions, which has a notoriously hot output, and as long as I've used pads on the input side (microphones) of the MixPre there aren't any problems.  I use my R-05 primarily for stealthing and have had zero issues stack-taping with it: if you have the proper amount of power going to your mics, you shouldn't have any problem.   

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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2015, 05:30:37 PM »
^ similar experience. Started using mine in 2013 and it's been rock solid for 250+ recordings. Never had any issues with taping loud PA's up close.
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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2015, 05:40:25 PM »
How much different, sound-wise, is the R-05 from the Edirol R-09HR, R-09, and R-1?  Anybody ever compare the four?  Samples? 

I've owned the other three, and I'm interested buying a R-05.  Thanks.

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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2015, 11:34:22 AM »
^^  I no longer have my R-09 (non-HR) so I can't do any direct comps, but going from memory I believe the R-05 sounds "cleaner" to my ears.  But maybe my microphones and techniques have gotten better in the ensuing years.  According to the Avisoft page, the specs for the R-05 and R-09HR are very close. 

I'm very happy with this Mike Watt recording I made a few years ago using the R-05. > http://www.nyctaper.com/2012/05/mike-watt-friends-may-2-2012-le-poisson-rouge-flac-and-mp3-downloads-streaming-song/

For this King Buzzo recording, the mics were attached to his stage monitors and hung in front of the grilles. > http://www.nyctaper.com/2014/07/king-buzzo-july-14-2014-the-wick-flac-mp3-streaming-songs/

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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2015, 03:46:21 PM »
I've never once had battery issues with the R09HR, and I assume the R05 is even better. Eneloops FTW.  So batteries aren't a huge deal.

I like my R09 HR way better than my M10. The HR has more battery life than I need and I like everything else about it better. Admittedly I haven't used the HR to record quiet stuff & I assume the M10's reportedly better pre's  would be a reason I might prefer the M10 if I recorded quiet stuff. I keep the M10 only because it can power my Sonic Studios mics without a battery box and together they make a great stealth package.

I also like the Sony D50 much more than the M10 except when I need to be really stealthy. I like the larger display of the D50 and it seems to provide more gain. One thing I really hate about the M10 is that when you turn up the gain from 7/10 to 10/10 it adds very little more gain.
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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2015, 01:20:20 PM »
How much different, sound-wise, is the R-05 from the Edirol R-09HR, R-09, and R-1?  Anybody ever compare the four?  Samples? 

I've owned the other three, and I'm interested buying a R-05.  Thanks.
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I don't have other Roland decks for direct comparison, but I find the R-05 as a great go to deck. Here are a few links, varied recording conditions...
https://archive.org/details/TTB2015-06-19.StateTheaterMplsMN
https://archive.org/details/CCD2015-04-28.RhiannonGiddensPantagesMplsMN
https://archive.org/details/JoeRussosAlmostDead2015-04-22.FirstAveMplsMN_BusmanOmnis

I think it is really easy to use and have never had any issues with different SD cards, venues, open, low pro, recording conditions, preamps or mics...
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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2015, 07:56:17 PM »
I've recently lost use of a channel on the line level input...this was a notorious problem on the old r-09 (which oddly hasn't happened to mine yet)....is there a way to fix this? is there someone I can send it to?

any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks so much,
Kyle
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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2016, 05:34:23 AM »
Hi i'm new in this forum, i only own a r-05 right now and i plan to tape a metal show in 3 weeks.. Any chance to get a good recording without preamps and external mics? Any help on the setup? I hope to get a battery box, preamp and external mics soon but for now i only have the r-05!

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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2016, 01:14:40 PM »
I've recently lost use of a channel on the line level input...this was a notorious problem on the old r-09 (which oddly hasn't happened to mine yet)....is there a way to fix this? is there someone I can send it to?

any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks so much,
Kyle

Reading through the old thread on this recorder you'll find the connections fail in the input chips, losing one or both channels even under fairly gentle use.  A factory repair is more than the recorder is worth.  I sold mine to someone who planned to tinker with it.  They put in a new input sleeve (removing the internal mics) and somehow bypassed the fault but whoever does it really needs to know what they're doing... 
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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2016, 01:21:33 PM »
Hi i'm new in this forum, i only own a r-05 right now and i plan to tape a metal show in 3 weeks.. Any chance to get a good recording without preamps and external mics? Any help on the setup? I hope to get a battery box, preamp and external mics soon but for now i only have the r-05!

With internal mics it's luck of the draw.  It first depends on whether the SPLs are too loud for the mics/recorder. 

There is a sensitivty switch you can set for some attempt to limit the input.  That may not be enough.  I don't think the internals are particularly robust in this deck. 

Note you only need a preamp or a battery box, not both.  Make sure it supplies the correct power level for the mics.  A battery box would be lower cost and for loud shows probably enough for plug-in powered mics. 
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Re: Roland R-05
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2016, 11:20:51 AM »
Hi i'm new in this forum, i only own a r-05 right now and i plan to tape a metal show in 3 weeks.. Any chance to get a good recording without preamps and external mics? Any help on the setup? I hope to get a battery box, preamp and external mics soon but for now i only have the r-05!

With internal mics it's luck of the draw.  It first depends on whether the SPLs are too loud for the mics/recorder. 

There is a sensitivty switch you can set for some attempt to limit the input.  That may not be enough.  I don't think the internals are particularly robust in this deck. 

Note you only need a preamp or a battery box, not both.  Make sure it supplies the correct power level for the mics.  A battery box would be lower cost and for loud shows probably enough for plug-in powered mics.
Thx for the help, i'll just try it and will see if i get a good result or not!
I know, i just need either a battery box or a Preamp. but thanks for helping  ;)


 

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