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Re: Does this exist? Stereo Line-In for iPhone
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2017, 04:59:49 PM »
I'm sorry to hear about your disappointing experience Relayer35. Is it possible the recording software is to blame rather than the hardware?

Anyway, before you possibly give up on this here is a recording I did on my iPhone 6s last year:

https://soundcloud.com/quisquose/test-live-recording-iphone

Church Audio CAF mics > Church Audio Ugly II Preamp > Tascam iXJ2 > iPhone 30-pin to Lightning Adapter > iPhone 6s

Rode Rec App

I went into the show with battery at, or close to 100%. It was in Airplane mode throughout. As we left the venue 3 hours later the battery had dropped to 49%, so it does use quite a bit of battery life but nothing like your experience, and no hiss.

The 30 pin thing kills the Tascam for me. The idea is to be able to bring less equipment into a venue, and stuffing a battbox/preamp, tascam, phone and a 30 pin adapter in my pocket is kind of much. I'm still going to do some tests.....I read somewhere that perhaps the lightning port needs to be plugged in a certain way, it's supposed to be reversal. So I'm going to test that out. That could totally explain my problem. Won't help with the hiss or battery life.

I have a show coming up that I would love to stealth, but it's going to be near impossible to get stuff in, so I may wind up just using the Blue Mikey internal mic and living with it.

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Re: Does this exist? Stereo Line-In for iPhone
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2017, 05:25:40 PM »
The 30 pin thing kills the Tascam for me. The idea is to be able to bring less equipment into a venue, and stuffing a battbox/preamp, tascam, phone and a 30 pin adapter in my pocket is kind of much.

The setup you were running with was:

CA11 > CA-UBB > SP-iOS Adapter > iPhone 6

If you were to gaffer tape the 30-pin adapter and iXJ2 together you get a "new unit" with similar dimensions to the SP-iOS Adaper, so:

CA11 > CA-UBB > New Unit > iPhone 6

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Re: Does this exist? Stereo Line-In for iPhone
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2017, 05:49:37 PM »
The 30 pin thing kills the Tascam for me. The idea is to be able to bring less equipment into a venue, and stuffing a battbox/preamp, tascam, phone and a 30 pin adapter in my pocket is kind of much.

The setup you were running with was:

CA11 > CA-UBB > SP-iOS Adapter > iPhone 6

If you were to gaffer tape the 30-pin adapter and iXJ2 together you get a "new unit" with similar dimensions to the SP-iOS Adaper, so:

CA11 > CA-UBB > New Unit > iPhone 6

:)

Well "New Unit" is a bit bigger than the SP-iOS Adapter....but I just caught an iXJ2 on eBay for under $25, so I'm going to give it a whirl!

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Re: Does this exist? Stereo Line-In for iPhone
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2017, 06:16:16 PM »
....but I just caught an iXJ2 on eBay for under $25, so I'm going to give it a whirl!

Cool. Make sure you get a genuine 30-pin adapter (if you don't already have one) because non genuine ones won't work. I suggest the 0.2m version. It's going to cost you more than the iXJ2!!!!

Let us know how you get on.

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Re: Does this exist? Stereo Line-In for iPhone
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2017, 09:08:40 PM »
....but I just caught an iXJ2 on eBay for under $25, so I'm going to give it a whirl!

Cool. Make sure you get a genuine 30-pin adapter (if you don't already have one) because non genuine ones won't work. I suggest the 0.2m version. It's going to cost you more than the iXJ2!!!!

Let us know how you get on.

I already have the adapter, and it is a genuine one. Not going to another show until the end of February. I should have a chance to try it then.

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Re: Does this exist? Stereo Line-In for iPhone
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2017, 05:25:10 PM »
Okay, so the iXJ2 came in the mail today. I bought it used, but it was shipped in the original box, had all the instructions, and looks to be in perfect condition. I hooked it up to my phone, and tested that it can record and it all seems to work great. It was smaller than I expected, so that's a plus.

I have a few questions.
1. Battery drain? Will this drain the iPhone battery? I know that the answer is "yes", but maybe a better question is how much will it drain the battery? An upcoming show I plan on recording may go 4+ hrs long. Will the battery be sufficient? I plan on using a fully charged phone in airplane mode. (EDIT: Never mind, I see you already answered this)
2. I notice that this has plug-in power. I'm assuming that the plug-in power is probably not sufficient to power mics without a battery box. I am also assuming the plug-in power would drain the battery of the phone even more?
3. Is there any particular recording app you recommend. I used TwistedWave with the BlueMikey, but if there is something better, I will look into it. I like Twisted Wav, as it can record large files and I can transfer them to my PC via network share over Wi-Fi.

Thanks for all your help.

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Re: Does this exist? Stereo Line-In for iPhone
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2017, 06:02:28 AM »
1. Last concert I did I was recording solid for 3 hours. I went in with battery at 100%, airplane mode on obviously, and as I left the battery was 59%. I use an old 4s which still has a great battery life for it's age, but a new phone should be at least no worse.

2. I have used PIP and I thought that I wasn't impressed, but I was have since realised that all my earlier recordings had hiss noise reduction on my app which was not a good idea. So I might give it another go.

3. I use the Rode Rec app. I already had the premium version because I have the Rode iXY microphone, but you might be interested in the following:

http://www.provideocoalition.com/review-tascam-ixj2-preamp-ad-enables-dual-mic-2-channel-opportunities-for-i/

Just going to check the PIP voltage on the iXJ2 now ...

« Last Edit: February 04, 2017, 07:11:53 AM by adrianb »

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Re: Does this exist? Stereo Line-In for iPhone
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2017, 06:11:45 AM »
The plug in power on the iXJ2 is 2.49 volts

Edit: Just had to check because I noticed that I had already measured this and on another thread said it was 3.56 volts. Definitely 2.49 volts again, and by way of comparison I measured my Sony PCM-M10 and got 2.95 volts and Sony PCM-D100 and got 4.91 volts.

« Last Edit: February 04, 2017, 07:15:41 AM by adrianb »

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Re: Does this exist? Stereo Line-In for iPhone
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2017, 06:17:05 PM »
Thanks for all the information. I have a show later this month that I can test this with, while still running my regular rig just in case. I will let you know how it works out.

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Re: Does this exist? Stereo Line-In for iPhone
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2017, 11:15:19 AM »
Hey adrianb,

Just wanted to let you know that the iXJ2 worked out great the other night.

Recording was CA11 (omni) > CA-UBB > iXJ2 > Lightning Adapter > iPhone 6 (TW Recorder App)

Recorded for 2 1/2 hrs total, starting with 100% battery on the iPhone in Airplane Mode with Background App Refresh turned off for most apps.

Battery was at 77% after the 2 1/2 hours....actually a little better than the Blue Mikey was doing. Seems like I should definitely be able to use this for longer shows as well.

Only issue was I had the levels too high. The volume in the venue was rather low, except for about a 1 minute section of the show that got really really loud. I clipped that 1 minute section, but the rest of the show was fine. I had the levels set to 6 on the iXJ2. I was also using a new CA-UBB (warranty replacement) for the first time, and didn't really have a feel with what the levels should be set at. It was a strange show because the volume was really low for the whole show except for that 1 minute section. If I had the set the levels lower, I'm not sure the rest of the show would have come out as nice. I'll probably set it at 4 next time.

Thanks for all your help.

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Re: Does this exist? Stereo Line-In for iPhone
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2017, 11:43:19 AM »
Hi Relayer35, pleased to learn you had some success with this. I note that you just used the battery box. When I tried that I thought that it was a bit muffled, and then tried the Ugly pre-amp (setting the iXJ2 to zero) and was much happier with the results. Comparable to using my Sony M10 at least.

Whilst I still think using the pre-amp will give better results, I now realise that I had the 'hiss reduction' setting set on the Rode app which gives a rather muffled recording. So I will be interested to try again with just the battery box. It will certainly be more stealth friendly with just the battery box.

I've got two gigs coming up soon.

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Re: Does this exist? Stereo Line-In for iPhone
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2017, 07:53:14 AM »
Hi Relayer35, pleased to learn you had some success with this. I note that you just used the battery box. When I tried that I thought that it was a bit muffled, and then tried the Ugly pre-amp (setting the iXJ2 to zero) and was much happier with the results. Comparable to using my Sony M10 at least.

Whilst I still think using the pre-amp will give better results, I now realise that I had the 'hiss reduction' setting set on the Rode app which gives a rather muffled recording. So I will be interested to try again with just the battery box. It will certainly be more stealth friendly with just the battery box.

I've got two gigs coming up soon.

I've actually done three shows with this device now, and am probably going to use that setup as my primary gear from now. I varied the microphone, battery box combination at each show to see what works the best, and every combination worked pretty well. In fact, I used my M10 as a backup for those three shows and actually screwed up the M10 recording at my last gig with the cord coming out midway through the show. Juggling two rigs at each show was a little bit of a headache! I'm satisfied with my results using a battery box, and as you say, easier to stealth than a pre-amp.

Good luck with your recordings.

 

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