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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #45 on: May 28, 2017, 12:30:52 PM »

You youngens have it good.

In the old days, a 90m dat tape took 3 hours to transfer because you had to do it in real time. Unless you had a DDS drive which allowed you to speed up the transfer, though I forget how much faster it was.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #46 on: May 28, 2017, 01:24:58 PM »
Has anyone done a runtime test on as batteries yet?
on my mp3  2channel  Phantom telefunkin m60's ( 2.37 hrs) 4 aa sled . still waiting on 8aa sled . usbc works great .

Hmmm... maybe my batteries weren't as fresh as I assumed. I'll do another test later today.  Is there some kind of low power setting i'm missing?
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #47 on: May 28, 2017, 01:29:28 PM »
Anyone have a tutorial on how to use Wave agent to turn the polywave files into stereo wave files??  TIA
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #48 on: May 28, 2017, 01:48:56 PM »
Hmmm... maybe my batteries weren't as fresh as I assumed. I'll do another test later today.  Is there some kind of low power setting i'm missing?

I would check battery levels, or simply recharge. If you can "slow recharge" rather than quick that will be better.

I'd also suggest turning off Bluetooth if on. In some circumstances Bluetooth can drain batteries pretty quickly.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #49 on: May 28, 2017, 02:03:09 PM »
Has anyone done a runtime test on as batteries yet?
on my mp3  2channel  Phantom telefunkin m60's ( 2.37 hrs) 4 aa sled . still waiting on 8aa sled . usbc works great .

Hmmm... maybe my batteries weren't as fresh as I assumed. I'll do another test later today.  Is there some kind of low power setting i'm missing?

you can dim the leds and buttons & screen . should help some. also turn off the blue tooth. i really don't know how much all this helps . every mic draws different . i went ahead and ordered the L sled so ill have all three eventually . i'm  waiting on the 8aa & now the Lsleds.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #50 on: May 28, 2017, 02:07:41 PM »
~ 2 hours runtime on 4 AAs means I won't be stealthing with this thing. Good thing I kept my 744.

It's why I always use Energizer Lithium AA batteries...I'll get around 5-6 hours run time if regular AA only gets 2.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #51 on: May 28, 2017, 02:46:09 PM »

I'm interested to see transfer times. The manual claims transfer over USB C is actually using USB 2.0 which is pretty slow compared to USB 3.0 and might be slower than Firewire. That said, I now have to use an adapter to use firewire on my 744 which is annoying.

It's hard to believe this is a serious question, but I'll play along. (Is someone really going to decide to buy or not based on transfer times?) I just transferred from MP3 to computer via file transfer mode. I had a 2.02 Gb file. Transfer time: 75 seconds.

I don't know if that's USB 2 or faster. But it's fast enough for me. Heck, even if it took 3 times longer that would be fast enough for me! Of course, as another person noted, you can also just pull out the SD card and use it directly.

First, that's a great transfer time and much better than I would have expected.

Not sure how important that is to someone else. I already bought one (Mix Pre 6). I bring it up because people frequently see the firewire on the 7 series as a fault. An external card reader over USB 3 is going to be faster than firewire, but much faster than USB 2.

I think it's pretty silly that it using USB 2.0 over a USB C cable when 3.0 is pretty standard. That said, I think someone looking at this is comparing it to the Zoom F4/8 which also use USB 2.0.

I could always pull the card and may end up doing that. But having the card behind the battery makes it an extra step (albeit not that big a deal). If I had a new Macbook Pro I would be annoyed that I couldn't use a USB C to USB C cable to transfer files at the highest possible speed. Instead, I'd have to use a USB C hub with card reader. I would also think that being able to use USB 3.0 would improve the latency issues (mentioned as a concern on at least one Youtube vide).

I should have mine in the next couple of days and I'll report back on my findings as far as transfer and battery run times. I ended up buying both the L mount and the 8xAA mount.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #52 on: May 28, 2017, 02:53:02 PM »
Anyone have a tutorial on how to use Wave agent to turn the polywave files into stereo wave files??  TIA

(Assuming Channel 1,3 is left and 2,4 is Right)
1) Open Wave Agent>Import Files
2) Split/Combine>Check the boxes for File 1, Track 1 and File 2 Track 2 for channel 1,2>Process to create a stereo file for channels 1,2.
3) Split/Combine>Check the boxes for File 3, Track 1 and File 4 Track 2 for channel 1,2>Process to create a stereo file for channels 3,4.

« Last Edit: May 28, 2017, 03:03:24 PM by johnw »
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #54 on: May 28, 2017, 05:56:27 PM »
All lights dimmed, Bluetooth off, battery type correctly chosen... just got 55 minutes out of 4 Duracells. Is it possible that the Rodes suck more power than other mics? Have tried with an NT4 and a set of NT5s. Weird. Guess it is time to explore other battery options.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2017, 06:17:30 PM »
Another good video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McW2QqVh1jM

He totally missed custom mode and knob controls of gain as well as how to record the individual iso tracks but does a nice job showing off limiters..
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2017, 06:24:22 PM »
All lights dimmed, Bluetooth off, battery type correctly chosen... just got 55 minutes out of 4 Duracells. Is it possible that the Rodes suck more power than other mics? Have tried with an NT4 and a set of NT5s. Weird. Guess it is time to explore other battery options.

question are the duracell's nimhs or akalines. nhims are better. if your using alkalines try the lithiums. much better.the enloop pros or the powerx lsd's are costly but worth the extra coin.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2017, 06:30:09 PM »
Thanks John!!  I've had sometime to play with settings and the menu of my 6 today.  It is really awesome.  The custom options allow you to customize the recorder for your needs.  I'm really happy with my purchase.  I did email SD support about the SD card issue. 

Anyone have a tutorial on how to use Wave agent to turn the polywave files into stereo wave files??  TIA

(Assuming Channel 1,3 is left and 2,4 is Right)
1) Open Wave Agent>Import Files
2) Split/Combine>Check the boxes for File 1, Track 1 and File 2 Track 2 for channel 1,2>Process to create a stereo file for channels 1,2.
3) Split/Combine>Check the boxes for File 3, Track 1 and File 4 Track 2 for channel 1,2>Process to create a stereo file for channels 3,4.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2017, 06:44:13 PM by jbell »
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2017, 07:08:43 PM »
(Assuming Channel 1,3 is left and 2,4 is Right)
1) Open Wave Agent>Import Files
2) Split/Combine>Check the boxes for File 1, Track 1 and File 2 Track 2 for channel 1,2>Process to create a stereo file for channels 1,2.
3) Split/Combine>Check the boxes for File 3, Track 1 and File 4 Track 2 for channel 1,2>Process to create a stereo file for channels 3,4.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when pulling up a selected MixPre-6 WAV 8 (POLY) file in Wave Agent, under "track info", I see the following:

Track 1 = Mix L
Track 2 = Mix R
Track 3 = Ch 1
Track 4 = Ch 2
Track 5 = Ch 3
Track 6 = Ch 4
Track 7 = Ch 5
Track 8 = Ch 6

So, if I want to isolate the sources into their own stereo files shouldn't the selected box combos (input tracks/output files) be:

(Trk 3&4/File 1) call it "primary mics"
(Trk 5&6/File 2) "secondary mics"
(Trk 7&8/File 3) "sbd"
(Trk 1&2/File 4) "left/right mix"

I tried tackling this late last night after returning from a gig, but was too tired to comprehend it, and have only given it some limited time today, so hoping this makes sense...
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #59 on: May 28, 2017, 07:37:45 PM »
I just got 2hours 35min off 4 powerex 2600mah rechargeables.  Phantom 4 channels, Akg 460 & Telefunken m60.
12hours 49min off my Omni charge :)
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