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anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« on: April 02, 2006, 06:52:23 AM »
anyone jumped from a 1080i to 1080p HDTV?  1080p is all the hype now but is it actually a noticeable improvement?  the 1080p tvs are fairly expensive right now so i am wondering if they're actually worth the extra money.  so who has the pimped out home theater shit goin awn?
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2006, 10:15:18 AM »
I've yet to see anyone broadcast in 1080P.  Don't see the point in buying one now. 

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2006, 10:39:16 AM »
scott, that's exactly what my installer had said when we were talking about options.  so i went with an lg with 1080i.
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2006, 12:20:13 PM »
1080p is a marked improvement for high action type broadcasts.  Those that had HDTV during the last summer olympics will remember the diving was all macro blocked to hell.  1080p fixes that...very smooth, no noticeable blocking.  I dont have one and will not be getting one for a while, but Nortel has one in their customer IPTV lab and the picture is phenomenal

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2006, 12:33:01 PM »
macro blocked to hell. 

Is that what the term is for when there are rather large looking squares that resemble huge pixels?  especially located (or noticable) where there is color changes on the screen?  I hate that... and that's why I've avoided upgrading my tv, because I'd really hate to spend that $$$ and have it look like that.  What causes that, and how to you avoid it?

A friend of mine bought a nice Samsung HD/DLP TV for over $3k, and I went over to watch some football, and I was quite dissappointed because it looked like that... but, he doesn't have HD coming into his house yet... could that be the problem?



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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2006, 12:47:30 PM »
macro blocked to hell. 

Is that what the term is for when there are rather large looking squares that resemble huge pixels?  especially located (or noticable) where there is color changes on the screen?  I hate that... and that's why I've avoided upgrading my tv, because I'd really hate to spend that $$$ and have it look like that.  What causes that, and how to you avoid it?

A friend of mine bought a nice Samsung HD/DLP TV for over $3k, and I went over to watch some football, and I was quite dissappointed because it looked like that... but, he doesn't have HD coming into his house yet... could that be the problem?





bigger screens show how bad a standard definition picture can be...and that is what you are seeing.  HD does not have that problem on most things that are broadcast, only on stuff that is quick movements like diving with a guy spinning around...

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2006, 01:12:14 PM »
I think that means I should hold off on getting into an HDTV for a little while longer then.... the network I watch the most, Fox Sports Net, for my local sports is not HDTV, so I'd imagine everything is going to look like that until they start broadcasting that network in HD. 

I currently have a 51' Mitsubishi Rear projection non-hdtv...  While it's not the greatest, I definately prefer it to those huge blocks, esp considering I'd be paying more $ to get those huge blocks.

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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2006, 01:42:13 PM »
I think that means I should hold off on getting into an HDTV for a little while longer then.... the network I watch the most, Fox Sports Net, for my local sports is not HDTV, so I'd imagine everything is going to look like that until they start broadcasting that network in HD. 

I currently have a 51' Mitsubishi Rear projection non-hdtv...  While it's not the greatest, I definately prefer it to those huge blocks, esp considering I'd be paying more $ to get those huge blocks.

am I offbase here?


not necessarily...as stations move to digital signals those pictures are going to get better and better.  Also all tv's look different, you cant judge how a different tv will look based on one friends...

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2006, 02:17:16 PM »
You can get something new without going all the way to 1080p. 

I want a panel and need something for work that will do 720p.  So I'm getting a relatively inexpensive 720p panel as an entry into video and then when we move to a bigger room and the broadcast systems are updated, I'll get a video centerpiece and put the 720p in the bedroom.  You can get a sweet panasonic 42" that does 720p for 2K plus shipping. 
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2006, 02:53:04 PM »
I think that means I should hold off on getting into an HDTV for a little while longer then.... the network I watch the most, Fox Sports Net, for my local sports is not HDTV, so I'd imagine everything is going to look like that until they start broadcasting that network in HD. 

I currently have a 51' Mitsubishi Rear projection non-hdtv...  While it's not the greatest, I definately prefer it to those huge blocks, esp considering I'd be paying more $ to get those huge blocks.

am I offbase here?


not necessarily...as stations move to digital signals those pictures are going to get better and better.  Also all tv's look different, you cant judge how a different tv will look based on one friends...

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2006, 10:39:48 PM »
I actually think the pixelation during the summer olympics was a problem with the broadcast itself.  the winter olympics looked fine in HD this year and i've watched quite a bit of hockey/football/basketball in HD and there's usually no pixelation issues.  I have DirecTV though so maybe that has something to do with it.  The fuzzyness of regular broadcast channels (even in 100% digital like DTV) is just due to the monitor having more resolution than the signal.  Even non-HD Sony Wega tvs make digital pictures look fuzzy because they have alot of resolution. 

True, broadcasts aren't in 1080p yet but Blue-Ray/HD-DVD are going to be 1080p correct?  I'm pretty satisfied with my HD monitor right now but I want to get a 50+" one for the living room.  The Hitachi DLP monitors are friggin sick right now and relatively cheap (under 3k if you can get a deal).  You can hook a PC up directly to the monitors also so you can have your super techie geek shit goin on from the couch even.  Now how cool would that be?
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2006, 10:51:26 PM »
I got my 52" Mitsubishi DLP 1080p the monday after the Superbowl. And I haven't noticed any of the pixelation as Nick described and it's tuned to ESPN HD alot of the time I actually get to watch it. Also the price difference between the 1080p and the previous model was maybe $500 or so, so I didn't want to save $500 now just to regret it in 6-12 months not to mention having to ask my wife if we can upgrade it that soon after getting it.

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2006, 11:05:45 PM »
how much was the Mitsubishi DLP after all the goodies?
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2006, 08:06:44 AM »
I actually think the pixelation during the summer olympics was a problem with the broadcast itself.  the winter olympics looked fine in HD this year and i've watched quite a bit of hockey/football/basketball in HD and there's usually no pixelation issues. 

alot of sports are not commonly broadcast in 1080i (Fox does all of their sports programming at 720p to avoid pixelization and macro blocking which is common with alot of activity)...makes a huge difference

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2006, 08:48:45 AM »

my panasonic dlp isn't 1080p and doesn't have any of the problems nick has described

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2006, 08:51:17 AM »

my panasonic dlp isn't 1080p and doesn't have any of the problems nick has described

does it broadcast in the native format?  As an example,  I have my TV set to broadcast at whatever signal is fed to it...480p, 720p, 1080i...only time I have seen the macroblocking issue is on things like diving in 1080i...supposedly the progressive interface fixes it at higher resolutions

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2006, 09:04:05 AM »
my cable box pushes through whatever is fed (480i,480p, 720p, 1080i) and the tv seems to handle it all

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2006, 09:06:11 AM »
my cable box pushes through whatever is fed (480i,480p, 720p, 1080i) and the tv seems to handle it all

yeah, mine as well.  The macroblocking problem usually isnt an issue because alot of teh HD sports are broadcast at 720p...for the summer olympics, NBC used a 1080i feed and the amount of activity happening (i.e. diving) at 1080i caused macroblocking.  Fox sports has actually standardized at least for the time being at 720p for all HD broadcasts to avoid the issue

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2006, 09:35:37 AM »
i didn't see it in the diving.  Universal HD is still broadcasting some summer olympics sometimes so i'll check it out when/if it comes back on

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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2006, 09:42:33 AM »
i didn't see it in the diving.  Universal HD is still broadcasting some summer olympics sometimes so i'll check it out when/if it comes back on

when you do see if there is a way to tell what resolution they are broadcasting in.  I noticed last time there was some summer olymics rebroadcast, my DTV receiver showed that it was broadcasting in 720p

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2006, 02:17:48 PM »
i actually noticed macroblocking in the winter olympics last month as well, especially in skiiing events at the bottom of the hill.  as the camera panned a skier finishing his run the background was macroblocked to hell...also noticed it a few times on speedskating.  this was witnessed and confirmed on more than one hi-def tv in my area (i.e. two pals who also have HD).  was it a regional thing related to the feed?  who knows.  ???

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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2006, 05:32:08 AM »
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2006, 03:48:16 PM »
1080p is all hype people (at least right now). No one broadcasts in 1080p period. Which means all your TV is doing is deinterlacing it for you, which pretty much every flat panel fixed-pixel display has to do anyway to display a progressive image (because they are PROGRESSIVE displays!). Now, the exception to that last point might be if you one a CRT display that can render 1080i, then it won't need to deinterlace it to display it, but if you own an LCD or Plasma or DLP or rear projection LCD, then every freakin' signal you ever pass to the TV will have to be deinterlaced because the monitor is progressive scan. There pretty much is no such thing as a 1080p source, so the only thing you might be getting is a better deinterlacing or scaling chip in your TV to take 720p up to 1080p (scaling only) or 1080i to 1080p (deinterlacing). Other than that what's the benefit?

Also, the macro blocking thing can happen anywhere in the chain, and is most often a BANDWIDTH issue. You can bet your ass those $100K pro HD cameras don't macro block (they may show interlace tearing/combing if running at 1080i, but that is very different than the macro blocking thing). Usually, your cable provider is compressing the image to squeeze more bandwidth out of their lines, this can be observed by the fact that the same program might show macro blocking on Comcast but not via DirectTV. It all depends, but one thing is for sure, the macro blocking is coming down the pipe that way, your TV can't do anything about it. Now, when it comes to deinterlacers and scalers, the chips can and do make a huge difference, but that doesn't really manifest itself as macro blocking, it has more effect on horizontal combing/tearing (the deinterlacer) and edge sharpness/fuzziness (scaling). Maybe I'm wrong, but I know a fair amount about video and home theaters, and this is my opinion.

Finally, remember another thing folks, your fixed pixel displays have a NATIVE RESOLUTION of their own. Do you actually know what it is? I bet some might, but I bet others don't. Cause if you think your 1080i/p display actually has that many pixels, you might be surprised that it most likely doesn't. Just because it can display 1080i, doesn't mean it has that many pixels -- it won't. Take for example my LCD, it's native resolution is that of 720p (which is pretty rare to be spot on any HD format, but in my case it is). This means that even though it can play 1080i, in the background it's going to deinterlace (remember we are using progressive scan monitors for the most part not CRTs) and downscale (from 1080 to 720) just to display the image. Add into the equation that in many cases, the format changes several times, each time making things worse. They might be shooting 720p, then the cable company may be sending you 1080i, and then your TV will have to scale it to it's native resolution. It's worth finding out the native resolution of your TV, it might be an enlightening piece of info.
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2006, 10:57:32 PM »
i can see the blocking on lots of the tv at the store
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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2006, 01:21:07 AM »
does anyone here have verison fios TV? guy i know that works for them says it has over 200 HD channels
we don't have it in our area yet though

I have some family that have FIOS in DC.  They have some crazy channels.  My uncle is ex-air force and spent many years in Japan and he watches some channel that is broadcast from japan and he loves it.  Apparently there are quite a few channels that come from other countries that he gets.  I didnt get a chance to scroll thru all the channels but there were quite a few that I dont get with my comcast digital cable.
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2006, 09:34:47 AM »
1080p is all hype people (at least right now). No one broadcasts in 1080p period. Which means all your TV is doing is deinterlacing it for you, which pretty much every flat panel fixed-pixel display has to do anyway to display a progressive image (because they are PROGRESSIVE displays!). Now, the exception to that last point might be if you one a CRT display that can render 1080i, then it won't need to deinterlace it to display it, but if you own an LCD or Plasma or DLP or rear projection LCD, then every freakin' signal you ever pass to the TV will have to be deinterlaced because the monitor is progressive scan. There pretty much is no such thing as a 1080p source, so the only thing you might be getting is a better deinterlacing or scaling chip in your TV to take 720p up to 1080p (scaling only) or 1080i to 1080p (deinterlacing). Other than that what's the benefit?

Also, the macro blocking thing can happen anywhere in the chain, and is most often a BANDWIDTH issue. You can bet your ass those $100K pro HD cameras don't macro block (they may show interlace tearing/combing if running at 1080i, but that is very different than the macro blocking thing). Usually, your cable provider is compressing the image to squeeze more bandwidth out of their lines, this can be observed by the fact that the same program might show macro blocking on Comcast but not via DirectTV. It all depends, but one thing is for sure, the macro blocking is coming down the pipe that way, your TV can't do anything about it. Now, when it comes to deinterlacers and scalers, the chips can and do make a huge difference, but that doesn't really manifest itself as macro blocking, it has more effect on horizontal combing/tearing (the deinterlacer) and edge sharpness/fuzziness (scaling). Maybe I'm wrong, but I know a fair amount about video and home theaters, and this is my opinion.

Finally, remember another thing folks, your fixed pixel displays have a NATIVE RESOLUTION of their own. Do you actually know what it is? I bet some might, but I bet others don't. Cause if you think your 1080i/p display actually has that many pixels, you might be surprised that it most likely doesn't. Just because it can display 1080i, doesn't mean it has that many pixels -- it won't. Take for example my LCD, it's native resolution is that of 720p (which is pretty rare to be spot on any HD format, but in my case it is). This means that even though it can play 1080i, in the background it's going to deinterlace (remember we are using progressive scan monitors for the most part not CRTs) and downscale (from 1080 to 720) just to display the image. Add into the equation that in many cases, the format changes several times, each time making things worse. They might be shooting 720p, then the cable company may be sending you 1080i, and then your TV will have to scale it to it's native resolution. It's worth finding out the native resolution of your TV, it might be an enlightening piece of info.

Also remember that 1080p is pretty much useless unless you have the proper viewing conditions.  Check out this site that explains the viewing distance vs screen size with regards to video resolution:
http://www.carltonbale.com/blog/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2006, 10:46:09 PM »
1080p really isn't a benefit unless you have a screen og 50" or bigger. Right now its good for 2 things, HD-DVD and Blue-ray movies. The PS3 and Xbox360 both do 1080p, but no games use it yet. Won't see it in TV either, not enough bandwidth yet. I got a 50" Samsung 1080p DLP set to future proof myself and because I love HD-DVD movies.
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2006, 11:24:53 PM »
1080p really isn't a benefit unless you have a screen og 50" or bigger. Right now its good for 2 things, HD-DVD and Blue-ray movies. The PS3 and Xbox360 both do 1080p, but no games use it yet. Won't see it in TV either, not enough bandwidth yet. I got a 50" Samsung 1080p DLP set to future proof myself and because I love HD-DVD movies.

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2006, 07:47:26 AM »
1080p really isn't a benefit unless you have a screen og 50" or bigger. Right now its good for 2 things, HD-DVD and Blue-ray movies. The PS3 and Xbox360 both do 1080p, but no games use it yet. Won't see it in TV either, not enough bandwidth yet. I got a 50" Samsung 1080p DLP set to future proof myself and because I love HD-DVD movies.

Even with a 50" set you'd have to be within about 6 feet of the TV to be able to see the full benefit of 1080p.  And you wouldn't even start to notice a difference between 1080p and 720p until you get within 8 feet. 

Check that link I posted right above you - it has a cool picture that explains it easily. ;)
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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2006, 03:46:27 PM »
I watched the mmj okonokos dvd last night, on the new 1080p oppo upconverting dvd player > hdmi > samsung 61" 1080p tv last night.  You could tell that it was being upconverted, but the color was unfuckingbelievable!!!

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2006, 02:02:19 AM »
Check out this site that explains the viewing distance vs screen size with regards to video resolution:
http://www.carltonbale.com/blog/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2006, 11:36:47 AM »
i got a samsung 61" rear projection being shipped to me as we speak
went with samsung after reading many, to many, reviews from sony and others as well
plus almost everyone i talked to at different store said samsung was the best

does the ps3 PLAY Blue Ray dvds? EDIT - well that was easy to find out YES it does
i am off to reserch that next, if so thats a nice plus since BR players are at least a few hundred more then the ps3
however the ps3 you can't find lol
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« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2006, 12:29:25 PM »
We got the 61" dlp - HLS-6188.  I think the difference between the 6187 and the 6188 is that the 88 has an extra hdmi slot and it can do PIP.

We ordered it off the internet from TriState (it had the cheapest price according to pricegrabber when we ordered).  They shipped it freight, and were great to deal with, plus it came a day earlier than it was supposed to.

I messed with it a bit, but didn't calibrate it properly yet - just used some resolution settings that I found on the internet.  I highly suggest doing at least that, because the preprogrammed settings for the tv don't exactly show how great the picture is.  I was a little let down when I first saw it out of the box, but it looks great now.

We don't have any shutters on our windows yet, and although the room isn't super bright, its not exactly dark either, but the picture is still highly visible.

I was just using the cheap component cables that came with our cable box to watch cable for the time being until I'm completely moved in and hook up my proper equipment.  It did quite well with those tho, nice colors and crystal clear hd channels.  The sd channels weren't exactly great, but still watchable and the picture stretching looks pretty good as well.

I haven't tried hooking up a computer to it yet, but plan to in the future.  I heard that the samsung does a better job with the computer connection than the sony's.  All in all though, its a great tv so far, and I'm quite pleased.
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2006, 12:58:57 PM »
i got the 87

i thought the differences were a cable card slot and pip, maybe a 3rd hdmi too ??

at any rate i heard its kinda rough out of the box too
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2006, 01:00:52 PM »
however the ps3 you can't find lol

I picked up another PS3 last night at wal-mart.  Stores received shipments in day before yesterday so Id call around.  They aren't really that hard to find as the hype has died down.
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« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2006, 03:32:18 PM »
however the ps3 you can't find lol

I picked up another PS3 last night at wal-mart.  Stores received shipments in day before yesterday so Id call around.  They aren't really that hard to find as the hype has died down.

The hype's died down because people have played them and realized they aren't worth the cost just yet. ;)
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« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2006, 07:14:52 PM »
however the ps3 you can't find lol

I picked up another PS3 last night at wal-mart.  Stores received shipments in day before yesterday so Id call around.  They aren't really that hard to find as the hype has died down.

The hype's died down because people have played them and realized they aren't worth the cost just yet. ;)

Sure it is...its $400 less then any other blu-ray player.  Oh ya, it also plays video games as well.
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« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2006, 07:29:50 PM »
however the ps3 you can't find lol

I picked up another PS3 last night at wal-mart.  Stores received shipments in day before yesterday so Id call around.  They aren't really that hard to find as the hype has died down.

The hype's died down because people have played them and realized they aren't worth the cost just yet. ;)

Sure it is...its $400 less then any other blu-ray player.  Oh ya, it also plays video games as well.

Yeah but no IR support, so it wont integrate well into most people's home theater.  And if you want to play video games you may as well get a 360 or Wii right now, because there are no good games out for the PS3 anyway. ;)
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« Reply #38 on: December 24, 2006, 12:49:57 AM »
however the ps3 you can't find lol

I picked up another PS3 last night at wal-mart.  Stores received shipments in day before yesterday so Id call around.  They aren't really that hard to find as the hype has died down.

The hype's died down because people have played them and realized they aren't worth the cost just yet. ;)

Sure it is...its $400 less then any other blu-ray player.  Oh ya, it also plays video games as well.

Yeah but no IR support, so it wont integrate well into most people's home theater.  And if you want to play video games you may as well get a 360 or Wii right now, because there are no good games out for the PS3 anyway. ;)

I thought the lack of IR was kinda weird but since it comes with a wireless controller that makes accessing the DVD menus rather easy and from under the covers while watching a movie in bed is pretty nice. 

I rented some spiderman game from blockbuster (since they don't rent blu-ray discs yet) and found it to be pretty fun.  The graphics were excellent but there seemed to be too much going on at one time.  I think thats how games are now a days and seeing how I havnt played video games since the days of the SNES I'm rather out of the loop.  I suspect that once I get the blockbuster total access program up and running I'll never play another game unless a donkey kong game is released on ps3.
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #39 on: December 25, 2006, 01:14:55 PM »
however the ps3 you can't find lol

I picked up another PS3 last night at wal-mart.  Stores received shipments in day before yesterday so Id call around.  They aren't really that hard to find as the hype has died down.

If you are willing to sit in front of the computer for and hour or two, you can usually score a 20gb version off eBay for LESS than what you'd pay (after tax) in a store.  I did that and saved $10 :)  Most people are treating the 20GB like a red headed step child, but it was just what I wanted since I'm not a gamer and it'll be used primarily for blu-ray playback.  Although I'm not a gamer, I downloaded the demo versions of Motorstorm, Resistance, and Gran Turismo and they are plenty fun to play...best of all they are free to download  ;D

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2006, 01:18:27 PM »

Yeah but no IR support, so it wont integrate well into most people's home theater.  And if you want to play video games you may as well get a 360 or Wii right now, because there are no good games out for the PS3 anyway. ;)

I've geard of people using the PS2 IR adapter with the PS3 and having success with most of the basic DVD control commands.  Check the AVS forum for details.  I would think that down the road they will make a special one for the PS3, but first they want to sell their special bluetooth remotes!

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« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2006, 10:13:33 PM »
however the ps3 you can't find lol

I picked up another PS3 last night at wal-mart.  Stores received shipments in day before yesterday so Id call around.  They aren't really that hard to find as the hype has died down.

If you are willing to sit in front of the computer for and hour or two, you can usually score a 20gb version off eBay for LESS than what you'd pay (after tax) in a store.  I did that and saved $10 :)  Most people are treating the 20GB like a red headed step child, but it was just what I wanted since I'm not a gamer and it'll be used primarily for blu-ray playback.  Although I'm not a gamer, I downloaded the demo versions of Motorstorm, Resistance, and Gran Turismo and they are plenty fun to play...best of all they are free to download  ;D

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2007, 04:20:32 PM »
Also, keep in mind that just because an HDTV display says it is 1080p, doesn't necessarily mean that it is true 1080p. Most units out there today upconvert 1080i to 1080p. If your display will accept a 1080p input, which most do not, then it is not doing any upconversion and is true 1080p.

I have a 60" Hitachi rear projection with an LCD engine and it is "virtual 1080p". This means it is truly 1080i but will upconvert to 1080p.

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« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2007, 04:38:16 PM »
Also, keep in mind that just because an HDTV display says it is 1080p, doesn't necessarily mean that it is true 1080p. Most units out there today upconvert 1080i to 1080p. If your display will accept a 1080p input, which most do not, then it is not doing any upconversion and is true 1080p.

I have a 60" Hitachi rear projection with an LCD engine and it is "virtual 1080p". This means it is truly 1080i but will upconvert to 1080p.

I'm not sure I understand you.  The TV itself is 1080p but is upconverting a 1080i signal?  Or do you mean that it's a 1080i tv that is downconverting a 1080p signal? 
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #44 on: January 02, 2007, 04:46:51 PM »
Also, keep in mind that just because an HDTV display says it is 1080p, doesn't necessarily mean that it is true 1080p. Most units out there today upconvert 1080i to 1080p. If your display will accept a 1080p input, which most do not, then it is not doing any upconversion and is true 1080p.

I have a 60" Hitachi rear projection with an LCD engine and it is "virtual 1080p". This means it is truly 1080i but will upconvert to 1080p.

TVs do not display anything in 1080i.  the "i" stands for interlaced, so any interlaced signal (whether 1080i or 480i) has to be deinterlaced into a progressive picture (and scaled to your TV's native resolution, if it is not 1080p).  my set is 1365x768, so a 1080i signal is deinterlaced and scaled to 768p.  mine can accept 1080p only at 24hz, but not 1080/30 or 1080/60.

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« Reply #45 on: January 02, 2007, 05:11:00 PM »
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mine can accept 1080p only at 24hz, but not 1080/30 or 1080/60.

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« Reply #46 on: January 02, 2007, 05:16:53 PM »
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you lost me here...

hz in this context is frames per second.  so 1080/24 would be 1920x1080 progressive format in 24 frames per second.  i don't know which players can handle it, but some hd-dvd and i think all blu-ray can output at 1080/24, but some can only do 30hz or 60hz, i guess.  24fps is the film industry standard.  my display is a 72hz display, so 24 works, i guess, because it's a factor of 72.  i don't understand all the intricacies of it all, to be honest.

i guess the 24fps film standard comes into play with 3:2 pulldown modes that some tv's have.  film based material has flags on the proper frames and the 3:2 pulldown smooths out judder.  my set actually has something called 3:3 pulldown which works with the 72hz refresh rate and the 24fps film based material to create a smoother picture somehow.

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« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2007, 05:22:17 PM »
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2007, 04:37:24 PM »
1080p really isn't a benefit unless you have a screen og 50" or bigger. Right now its good for 2 things, HD-DVD and Blue-ray movies. The PS3 and Xbox360 both do 1080p, but no games use it yet. Won't see it in TV either, not enough bandwidth yet. I got a 50" Samsung 1080p DLP set to future proof myself and because I love HD-DVD movies.

Even with a 50" set you'd have to be within about 6 feet of the TV to be able to see the full benefit of 1080p.  And you wouldn't even start to notice a difference between 1080p and 720p until you get within 8 feet. 

Check that link I posted right above you - it has a cool picture that explains it easily. ;)

I sit about 6 feet away from my 50" set and let me tell you, I can notice the difference between a 720p HD cable movie and a 1080p HD-DVD or bluray
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2007, 10:54:58 PM »
1080p really isn't a benefit unless you have a screen og 50" or bigger. Right now its good for 2 things, HD-DVD and Blue-ray movies. The PS3 and Xbox360 both do 1080p, but no games use it yet. Won't see it in TV either, not enough bandwidth yet. I got a 50" Samsung 1080p DLP set to future proof myself and because I love HD-DVD movies.

Even with a 50" set you'd have to be within about 6 feet of the TV to be able to see the full benefit of 1080p.  And you wouldn't even start to notice a difference between 1080p and 720p until you get within 8 feet. 

Check that link I posted right above you - it has a cool picture that explains it easily. ;)

I sit about 6 feet away from my 50" set and let me tell you, I can notice the difference between a 720p HD cable movie and a 1080p HD-DVD or bluray

That's exactly what I wrote. ;)
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2007, 03:12:00 PM »
so my samsung 61" at 3 weeks old started to bit the shitter
the audio comes on and off my itself
then the tv started going on and off by itself
now everytime the audio cuts out and comes back on its not coming on as loud

circ\iut city has gave me the run around and finally this week, 5 weeks after the problem was 1st reported they are going to send someone to look at it
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #51 on: February 22, 2007, 12:56:14 AM »
so my samsung 61" at 3 weeks old started to bit the shitter
the audio comes on and off my itself
then the tv started going on and off by itself
now everytime the audio cuts out and comes back on its not coming on as loud

circ\iut city has gave me the run around and finally this week, 5 weeks after the problem was 1st reported they are going to send someone to look at it
i am pissssssed to say the least

didn't you say you had a samsung?

from everything I've read, if the store gives you the run around, call samsung.  They're supposed to be really good about their warranty.


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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #52 on: February 22, 2007, 09:30:54 AM »
so my samsung 61" at 3 weeks old started to bit the shitter
the audio comes on and off my itself
then the tv started going on and off by itself
now everytime the audio cuts out and comes back on its not coming on as loud

circ\iut city has gave me the run around and finally this week, 5 weeks after the problem was 1st reported they are going to send someone to look at it
i am pissssssed to say the least

didn't you say you had a samsung?

from everything I've read, if the store gives you the run around, call samsung.  They're supposed to be really good about their warranty.
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« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2007, 11:09:00 AM »
I just scored a 55" Sony SXRD 1080p.  Not HDMI cable yet, but even the regular cable channels via coax look great....
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« Reply #54 on: February 22, 2007, 12:01:53 PM »
I just scored a 55" Sony SXRD 1080p.  Not HDMI cable yet, but even the regular cable channels via coax look great....

Good choice.  If I were buying greater than 50" that is the set I would get.  Did you get the XBR2 or A2000?

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A2000, I couldn't justify the increase in price...
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2007, 11:44:10 PM »
Most content I think is 720p these days.  1080p is nice but probably ahead of its time. 
720p is very good looking. 

If you're going to run a PC into your TV, I'd say 1080 is a must because I hate the way they look on 720
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« Reply #57 on: February 24, 2007, 07:06:37 PM »
just an update on mine
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« Reply #58 on: March 18, 2007, 05:52:35 PM »
I just scored a 55" Sony SXRD 1080p.  Not HDMI cable yet, but even the regular cable channels via coax look great....

Good choice.  If I were buying greater than 50" that is the set I would get.  Did you get the XBR2 or A2000?

I had been looking at the 50" version of this set for a while and about bought it through the sony family store a couple of weeks back (wife works for SE), but didnt act before they pulled it and replaced it with the new version.  Was at best buy this morning, just looking at tv's and they had the 50' SXRD 1080p A2000 for $1399.99.  Sick deal...got it home and just using OTA right now as I ordered another box from DTV for all the other channels and the picture is freaking fantastic...doesnt suffer from off angle like other sets I had looked at...extremely happy and at that price...tough not to be...

the new ones have a black casing, but beyond that appear to be the exact same set as the old ones (which have silver casing)...from what I hear, sony is coming out with a 50" SXRD XBR in the summer though...

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #59 on: March 18, 2007, 06:42:51 PM »
I just scored a 55" Sony SXRD 1080p.  Not HDMI cable yet, but even the regular cable channels via coax look great....

Good choice.  If I were buying greater than 50" that is the set I would get.  Did you get the XBR2 or A2000?

I had been looking at the 50" version of this set for a while and about bought it through the sony family store a couple of weeks back (wife works for SE), but didnt act before they pulled it and replaced it with the new version.  Was at best buy this morning, just looking at tv's and they had the 50' SXRD 1080p A2000 for $1399.99.  Sick deal...got it home and just using OTA right now as I ordered another box from DTV for all the other channels and the picture is freaking fantastic...doesnt suffer from off angle like other sets I had looked at...extremely happy and at that price...tough not to be...

the new ones have a black casing, but beyond that appear to be the exact same set as the old ones (which have silver casing)...from what I hear, sony is coming out with a 50" SXRD XBR in the summer though...
Congrats on the new tv!  +T for getting one of the best sets I've seen recently.  Too bad you won't be able to watch the 'Canes in the playoffs this year  :o    JK  ok, so they are in 7th and in a close race.  You can always wat the Wings  ;D

I saw the SXRD XBR2 60" at Sears one day while the wife was shopping at New York & Co.  I wasn't that impressed with the 60" XBR2 when compared to the A2000.  Where was that A2000 deal at BB?  My buddy is looking for a set and that is a STEAL!  I did check out both the Sony and JVC at BB a few weeks ago and really liked the Sony.  I'm not even close to a new tv purchase as I'm really happy with my 720P front projection and the $800 32" Olevia LCD (crap for SD though).  I'll be waiting until we build a home in the next 5-7 yrs to upgrade as long as nothing blows up.  I really want a Pioneer plasma for the living room since the SED tv thing isn't going to work out.  Hopefully the BR/HD-DVD war will have been decided. 




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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #60 on: March 18, 2007, 08:08:24 PM »
I just scored a 55" Sony SXRD 1080p.  Not HDMI cable yet, but even the regular cable channels via coax look great....

Good choice.  If I were buying greater than 50" that is the set I would get.  Did you get the XBR2 or A2000?

I had been looking at the 50" version of this set for a while and about bought it through the sony family store a couple of weeks back (wife works for SE), but didnt act before they pulled it and replaced it with the new version.  Was at best buy this morning, just looking at tv's and they had the 50' SXRD 1080p A2000 for $1399.99.  Sick deal...got it home and just using OTA right now as I ordered another box from DTV for all the other channels and the picture is freaking fantastic...doesnt suffer from off angle like other sets I had looked at...extremely happy and at that price...tough not to be...

the new ones have a black casing, but beyond that appear to be the exact same set as the old ones (which have silver casing)...from what I hear, sony is coming out with a 50" SXRD XBR in the summer though...
Congrats on the new tv!  +T for getting one of the best sets I've seen recently.  Too bad you won't be able to watch the 'Canes in the playoffs this year  :o    JK  ok, so they are in 7th and in a close race.  You can always wat the Wings  ;D

I saw the SXRD XBR2 60" at Sears one day while the wife was shopping at New York & Co.  I wasn't that impressed with the 60" XBR2 when compared to the A2000.  Where was that A2000 deal at BB?  My buddy is looking for a set and that is a STEAL!  I did check out both the Sony and JVC at BB a few weeks ago and really liked the Sony.  I'm not even close to a new tv purchase as I'm really happy with my 720P front projection and the $800 32" Olevia LCD (crap for SD though).  I'll be waiting until we build a home in the next 5-7 yrs to upgrade as long as nothing blows up.  I really want a Pioneer plasma for the living room since the SED tv thing isn't going to work out.  Hopefully the BR/HD-DVD war will have been decided. 

Yeah the deal was at Best Buy...

I have complete faith that the Canes will make the postseason this year (and  if they dont, thats ok as the playoffs last year cost me a mint...a year off would hurt me as a fan, but help me in my pocketbook ;D)...and besides, I watch the entire NHL playoffs...easily one of my favorite times of year...

Honestly I didnt even look at the 60" SXRD, but I am guessing that it was marked down as well as the new ones are due in this week.  I looked at alot of TVs and honestly none of them imo came close to the SXRD in terms of pic quality and off axis viewing without jumping to another price bracket for LCD/Plasma.  And luckily the room that i have is pretty dark and as a result no real light effects on the picture...and honestly at the price of $1399.99...I had to buy the damn thing...hell, my 34" Sony widescreen tube cost me $250 more than that when I bought it!  And not to mention, this set weighs about 200 lbs less than the tube ;D

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #61 on: March 19, 2007, 08:45:54 AM »
I have been using my SXRD 55" A2000 with HDMI hook up for a few weeks now.  I watch more Discovery HD then I ever thought I would.  The picture is rediculously good....
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« Reply #62 on: March 19, 2007, 07:38:00 PM »
I am now on the market for a new tube - my old one walked out the door on its own Sat night.

Saw best buy has the SXRD 60" A2000 for like 2K - I am gonna take a look tonight and see what things are like. I am leaning towards another LCD RPTV vs DLP though.. and I am not at all interested in Plasma or LCD cost/weight wise.

But, new tube. saweet.

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« Reply #63 on: March 19, 2007, 08:05:16 PM »
Hey jhirte, we have opposite karma!  That equals like a viod in the universe of something.  Far Out!!!

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #64 on: March 19, 2007, 08:23:25 PM »
I am now on the market for a new tube - my old one walked out the door on its own Sat night.

Saw best buy has the SXRD 60" A2000 for like 2K - I am gonna take a look tonight and see what things are like. I am leaning towards another LCD RPTV vs DLP though.. and I am not at all interested in Plasma or LCD cost/weight wise.

But, new tube. saweet.

SXRD isnt DLP....similar but actually a variant of LCOS technology

http://www.projectorcentral.com/lcos.htm

the result is less of an issue with off angle viewing imo and a better picture even with ambient light than DLP


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« Reply #65 on: March 20, 2007, 12:33:38 AM »
I am now on the market for a new tube - my old one walked out the door on its own Sat night.

Saw best buy has the SXRD 60" A2000 for like 2K - I am gonna take a look tonight and see what things are like. I am leaning towards another LCD RPTV vs DLP though.. and I am not at all interested in Plasma or LCD cost/weight wise.

But, new tube. saweet.

SXRD isnt DLP....similar but actually a variant of LCOS technology

http://www.projectorcentral.com/lcos.htm

the result is less of an issue with off angle viewing imo and a better picture even with ambient light than DLP



oh, I'm aware believe me :) I was meaning that I prefer LCD vs DLP ;) looked at the 60a2000 SXRD tonight.... mannnnnnn sooo nice. I am gonna look at a few more places tomorrow though, and will know more on the idea of time frame as to when(and what) my insurance is going to cover. So glad it was just a few things taken this time vs 90% of my recording gear like the last burglary (and I'm even in a WAY better neighborhood now!).

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« Reply #66 on: March 24, 2007, 12:13:06 PM »
CarlZ and I picked up the Sony 60" A2020 last night (we each got one). freaking awesome! they really got the black levels on these down now.. my old Sony LCD RPTV had more of a dark grey vs black..  now I got black as black. saweet.
amazing how much bigger a 60" is than a 50".. in the store they look bigger dont get me wrong, but in the viewing position its just amazing to me.
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #67 on: March 27, 2007, 09:47:17 AM »
so my samsung 61" at 3 weeks old started to bit the shitter
the audio comes on and off my itself
then the tv started going on and off by itself
now everytime the audio cuts out and comes back on its not coming on as loud

circ\iut city has gave me the run around and finally this week, 5 weeks after the problem was 1st reported they are going to send someone to look at it
i am pissssssed to say the least
they fixed it
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #68 on: January 21, 2008, 01:12:21 AM »
if you make native 24p dvds then the progressive scan 1080p is very benefical
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #69 on: January 21, 2008, 10:46:14 AM »
so my samsung 61" at 3 weeks old started to bit the shitter
the audio comes on and off my itself
then the tv started going on and off by itself
now everytime the audio cuts out and comes back on its not coming on as loud

circ\iut city has gave me the run around and finally this week, 5 weeks after the problem was 1st reported they are going to send someone to look at it
i am pissssssed to say the least
they fixed it
about damn time
ccity sucks on service
here we go again
so my sammy thats just over a yr old has bit the shitter again
CC as usual doesn't want to help much (never buy the cc advantage its nothing but a pain in the neck)

although i have had the same problem since this time last yr and they have come out to my house 7 times,
and flat out told me there are no more parts we can change, if it keeps happening we will give you a new tv,
guess what--no new tv they want to send someone out to look at it again

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #70 on: February 19, 2008, 01:49:33 PM »
question about these 1080p panasonic plasmas

i have a 50 inch dlp from panasonic.  I bought it in september, 2004.  i'm feeding it the HDMI signal from an 8200HD dvr cable box, and the tv can be set to automatically stretch SD signals to full screen

my father has a 60 inch panasonic DLP he got in January, 2006 or 2007.  I forget when exactly

his tv CANNOT stretch the signal sent over HDMI.  you have to tell the cable box to do the stretching

do the new 1080p plasmas allow you to auto stretch hdmi input?

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #71 on: February 25, 2008, 11:23:00 AM »
bueller?

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« Reply #72 on: February 25, 2008, 02:21:30 PM »
we're just starting to look at 1080p plasmas for when we move next- in august- if anyone has any advice please let me know!  We originally were thinking about going to a projector, but the issue of ambient light is too hard for us to deal with, so plasma it is. 

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« Reply #73 on: February 25, 2008, 06:15:33 PM »
got a question on 1080p plasma vs. lcd- here's the thing- I watch a LOT of CNBC and Bloomberg- meaning it's very likely that one of these will be on for about 2-3 hours a day when we move.  I'm worried about burn in- is that a reason to go one over the other?

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« Reply #74 on: February 25, 2008, 06:51:36 PM »
question about these 1080p panasonic plasmas

i have a 50 inch dlp from panasonic.  I bought it in september, 2004.  i'm feeding it the HDMI signal from an 8200HD dvr cable box, and the tv can be set to automatically stretch SD signals to full screen

my father has a 60 inch panasonic DLP he got in January, 2006 or 2007.  I forget when exactly

his tv CANNOT stretch the signal sent over HDMI.  you have to tell the cable box to do the stretching

do the new 1080p plasmas allow you to auto stretch hdmi input?

My Pioneer 1080p plasma will stretch, zoom, etc. with the TV's remote. I could do this when I had cable via the cable remote as well. I have similar options with my Directv remote. I hope that helps. If not, let me know if you have any further questions.
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #75 on: February 25, 2008, 07:00:10 PM »
got a question on 1080p plasma vs. lcd- here's the thing- I watch a LOT of CNBC and Bloomberg- meaning it's very likely that one of these will be on for about 2-3 hours a day when we move.  I'm worried about burn in- is that a reason to go one over the other?

I have an LCD and plasma. Plasma is the way to go imo. The picture is much better. I'm a news junkie too and sometimes worry about the burn-in. It's my understanding that plasmas have come a long way with the burn-in factor.

In regards to your post about projectors...the 1080p projectors are currently pretty expensive. I will go that route when the prices come down.   
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« Reply #76 on: February 25, 2008, 07:01:17 PM »
got a question on 1080p plasma vs. lcd- here's the thing- I watch a LOT of CNBC and Bloomberg- meaning it's very likely that one of these will be on for about 2-3 hours a day when we move.  I'm worried about burn in- is that a reason to go one over the other?

I have an LCD and plasma. Plasma is the way to go imo. The picture is much better. I'm a news junkie too and sometimes worry about the burn-in. It's my understanding that plasmas have come a long way with the burn-in factor.

In regards to your post about projectors...the 1080p projectors are currently pretty expensive. I will go that route when the prices come down.   
We can afford it, it's just the ambient light issue that we can't do.

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2008, 08:57:56 PM »
question about these 1080p panasonic plasmas

i have a 50 inch dlp from panasonic.  I bought it in september, 2004.  i'm feeding it the HDMI signal from an 8200HD dvr cable box, and the tv can be set to automatically stretch SD signals to full screen

my father has a 60 inch panasonic DLP he got in January, 2006 or 2007.  I forget when exactly

his tv CANNOT stretch the signal sent over HDMI.  you have to tell the cable box to do the stretching

do the new 1080p plasmas allow you to auto stretch hdmi input?

My Pioneer 1080p plasma will stretch, zoom, etc. with the TV's remote. I could do this when I had cable via the cable remote as well. I have similar options with my Directv remote. I hope that helps. If not, let me know if you have any further questions.

this is via hdmi in?

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« Reply #78 on: February 26, 2008, 10:19:23 AM »
Yes, I use the HDMI.
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« Reply #79 on: March 25, 2008, 12:03:53 PM »
bueller?

just saw this...although i don't know if it will help, but my panasonic 1080p plasma can stretch SD channels.

however my 1080p is a 60fps tv and apparently that's not as "HD" or "cool" as 24fps ???  people say 1080p signals look jagged on those sets but i wouldn't know because my cable box only puts out 1080i and so does my HDDVD player.  considering toshiba quitting, i'm glad i went with the cheap player.  1080i looks just fine to me :)

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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #80 on: April 07, 2008, 12:17:01 PM »
anyone tried this TV?
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« Reply #81 on: April 07, 2008, 12:51:59 PM »
anyone tried this TV?
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665153947

46" bravia XBR5.  any opinions?



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Medacare is already set up, already has covered surgeries and procedures, and other than allowing Medacare to bargain collectively with Drug Companies, it is an off the shelf program.

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« Reply #83 on: April 10, 2008, 12:31:10 PM »
Have the Samsung 61" HLS-6188 DLP and its awesome for the living room.

Now I need something for the bedroom.  37" is about the biggest I can go in there.  I'm trying to find something affordable but nice.  It'll be hooked up to an hdtv dvr cable box and most likely another xbox360 for its streaming capabilities, that is unless the ps3 can stream divx/xvid/hd stuff over a network, then I might look into that.

I don't know where to start.  It seems LCD is the most popular in this size, are there even plasma made this small?  I don't know where to start really and I'm trying to avoid just buying on a whim.

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« Reply #84 on: April 10, 2008, 06:23:39 PM »
Have the Samsung 61" HLS-6188 DLP and its awesome for the living room.

Now I need something for the bedroom.  37" is about the biggest I can go in there.  I'm trying to find something affordable but nice.  It'll be hooked up to an hdtv dvr cable box and most likely another xbox360 for its streaming capabilities, that is unless the ps3 can stream divx/xvid/hd stuff over a network, then I might look into that.

I don't know where to start.  It seems LCD is the most popular in this size, are there even plasma made this small?  I don't know where to start really and I'm trying to avoid just buying on a whim.

any ideas?

I think plasmas pretty much start at 42" and up. I use a 37" Sharp Aquos in the bedroom and have enjoyed it. It's not as great a picture as the plasma for HDTV or regular DirecTV, but I really enjoy it for watching dvd's. My LCD is hooked up to a DirecTV 1080p DVR. I'm in the process of buying a house and am thinking of buying another Sharp LCD (26"-32") for the home office.
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« Reply #85 on: April 10, 2008, 06:34:37 PM »
You can get 37" plasmas - a friend of mine has one. I believe that's the smallest they go.

Have the Samsung 61" HLS-6188 DLP and its awesome for the living room.

Now I need something for the bedroom.  37" is about the biggest I can go in there.  I'm trying to find something affordable but nice.  It'll be hooked up to an hdtv dvr cable box and most likely another xbox360 for its streaming capabilities, that is unless the ps3 can stream divx/xvid/hd stuff over a network, then I might look into that.

I don't know where to start.  It seems LCD is the most popular in this size, are there even plasma made this small?  I don't know where to start really and I'm trying to avoid just buying on a whim.

any ideas?

I think plasmas pretty much start at 42" and up. I use a 37" Sharp Aquos in the bedroom and have enjoyed it. It's not as great a picture as the plasma for HDTV or regular DirecTV, but I really enjoy it for watching dvd's. My LCD is hooked up to a DirecTV 1080p DVR. I'm in the process of buying a house and am thinking of buying another Sharp LCD (26"-32") for the home office.
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« Reply #86 on: April 10, 2008, 07:04:53 PM »
I need to look at the aquos and read more reviews on those.  I also considered a visio from costco as they're quite cheap.

I know 1080p really doesn't matter at this size so much, but it seems like those are just as common as anything today so I wouldn't mind going that route.

John, what brand is your friends 37" plasma?  and does he like it?


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« Reply #87 on: April 10, 2008, 07:31:43 PM »
I need to look at the aquos and read more reviews on those.  I also considered a visio from costco as they're quite cheap.

I know 1080p really doesn't matter at this size so much, but it seems like those are just as common as anything today so I wouldn't mind going that route.

John, what brand is your friends 37" plasma?  and does he like it?

Yes, I'd love to know as well. I'd much prefer to a 37" plasma if it's reasonable. Another question is how old is his plasma? I recall 37" plasmas being available a few years back, but am unaware if they're still available new. I hope so; I might be inclined to fork up the extra scratch and have a 37" plasma in the bedroom and the lcd in the computer room. Thanks!
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #88 on: April 10, 2008, 09:36:47 PM »
He has a Pansonic TH37PX60U and loves it, although I don't think it's made anymore.  I believe they still make the TH-37PH10UK, though.
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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #89 on: April 11, 2008, 10:56:21 AM »
Thanks John, I'll have to look more into that. +t


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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #90 on: April 21, 2008, 11:58:06 AM »
Did anyone see Michael Scott's $200 wall-mounted plasma on the Dinner Party? He called it a plasma but it looks like a 15" LCD.


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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #91 on: April 21, 2008, 07:17:25 PM »
Ha!  That episode was great.  I'm so happy that show is back on the air.

Well, I ended up getting the 720p Sony Bravia KDL-40S3000 LCD.  Saw that sears had it for $1200, plus I have a friend that works there that gave me his 10% off discount, in addition to the 18 months same as cash deal they had going on.  Its only 38" wide, so it fits perfectly in the cabinet with an inch to spare on both sides.

I didn't want to get last years model at first, but couldn't beat the price and it got great reviews.  It did take me about 20 minutes of sitting on the floor and staring at it to convince me at the store though.  I calibrated based on what some people had suggested on avsforum, although I've yet to pull out a real calibration disc.  It looks great though, I'm quite pleased.

Haven't ran a good hd signal to it yet, right now we just have regular cable hooked up to it, however, it picks up digital channels from that and plays as hd.  Watched Desperate Housewives in HD last night and I thought it looked good.  how that HD differs from what I have coming from HD DVR I don't know?  Gotta get that all sorted out shortly.  I also hooked up my laptop via hdmi and that looked great as well, although the hd videos I have didn't look as good playing through the lappy as they do the xbox360 on my main tv.

Now I need to figure out if its worth to put another 360 in there, or buy a PS3.  I'm trying to find out what filetypes the PS3 can stream over a network, but everything I've found talking about it seems to be from summer of last year.  It'd be nice if the PS3 could do everything the 360 can do, that way I could have that toy as well.


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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #92 on: April 21, 2008, 07:54:58 PM »
it can, and then some. starting with being the only bluray live! currently out on the street...

lots of info in the pb forum (or hit me with a pm if you cant find it)...

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« Reply #93 on: April 21, 2008, 08:48:56 PM »
it can, and then some. starting with being the only bluray live! currently out on the street...

lots of info in the pb forum (or hit me with a pm if you cant find it)...



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Re: anyone purchased a 1080p HDTV yet?
« Reply #94 on: April 22, 2008, 11:09:59 AM »
it can, and then some. starting with being the only bluray live! currently out on the street...

lots of info in the pb forum (or hit me with a pm if you cant find it)...



I guess I need to do some reading!  I may be bugging you though to find out more info, I'll check out the pb forum first though.  Thanks for the heads up.

I'm thinking I might forgo the hd dvr for the bedroom after I heard the price of it, an extra $26 a month on top of the already $150 cable/internet bill.  Thats ridiculous!


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