Topic: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories

[Sanjay]

Also I believe Blue makes a figure 8 lomo head too.

I don't think Lomo and Blue are the same, are they?

Blue is a manufacturer and Lomo I thought was the technical name for the "lollipop" type of capsule. 

I'm prob  wrong.

[bluegrass_brad]

Lomo is a huge company, they made mostly cameras, but made mics for quite awhile.  Here is some history.
http://microphones.ru/LOMO/LOMO_overview.html

[tfrench]

I think all of this and more has already been posted but this is the link to my AKG information page. I've slowly been consolodating my AKG information, part numbers etc here.

http://users.erols.com/jthierry/akg/

Joe

Great looking site you are building Joe +T.....That is specifically what I was looking for when I started this thread.  When you've got it completed drop an update back in this thread.

Thanks to everyone for posting some great information!  +T to everyone for helping me out.

Todd

[tfrench]

Anyone know where I can get some of there pastic cap holders?

[JNT]

JNT, if your looking for the ck4, i suggest every few weeks do a google search and run through the 10 first pages.  Thats how I found the c34, it was listed on ebay.uk and wouldn't have seen it.  I noticed there were quite a few location sound rental companies who have them, maybe they could bebrought to part with them?

Good suggestion. I've done quite a few google searches and looked on other countries Ebay sites.  There was one sold on gearslutz but it went fast.  If there are only 4 in the US as Jim Williams claims then it doesn't supprise me that I haven't found one.

Unless you intend to run the ck4 with a 450 mic, I wouldn't put too much effort into finding one. Even with the adapter they have been verified to not work with the 460/480 mics by Jim Williams. The Blue capsule will work with the 460s I believe.

http://www.allaudio.org/detail-6996905.html

It is the same capsule used on the 414B-ULS. They were sold in '81/82
then discontinued. I believe only 4 are in the U.S., I have one of
them. They won't polarize from a 460B body because the 10 gig bias
won't charge up the capsule due to internal resistance built into the
CK-4.

Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades

I guess I did know that they wouldn't work with the 460s but I had forgotten.  I still own a pair of 451s so I'm set.

Joe

[JNT]

Great looking site you are building Joe +T.....That is specifically what I was looking for when I started this thread.  When you've got it completed drop an update back in this thread.

Thanks to everyone for posting some great information!  +T to everyone for helping me out.

Todd

Thanks, glad you found it useful.  I do have more information I need to put on there.  I'll post when I get it updated. 

I think you can get the plastic containers from AKG US.  I think one of the CK1 capsules they repaired for me was returned in a plastic case. You could use a 35mm film canister but it would be a little big.

Joe

[tgakidis]

Old Thread but thought I should add the ck1S cap.  Just used it on thursday for Trey in Boston.


Kickdown: http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,112074.0.html

[Idle Wind]

didn't see ck8 / ck9 guns listed (diff from ck8x / ck9x).  designed for the 450, fits the 460 w/ reducer ring.

[easy jim]

^ I do not think the ck9 long shotgun capsules will work on a 460 body b/c of the way they half slip over the 451/2 bodies.  To my knowledge ck9x caps do not exist/were never made for the same reason that ck9 capsules are not appropriate for the 460 bodies.  They require the 451/2 body to fit inside one end of the capsule for additional support in mounting due to their length (~ 24")/weight.

Also not included in the thread are the ck22 omni capsules (newer version than ck2), and the vintage ck26 (omni) and ck28 (cardioid) capsules designed for the c60 tube mics.  The ck26 and ck28 definitely will work with the 451/2 bodies, although I do not know if they will work with the 460/a60_ combo.

Also, there is the a60p (plastic) version of the reducer rings, which is readily identifiable by the small metal loop on the inside of the side which mates with the 460 body.  The a60m (metal) reducer rings do not have this small metal loop.

[tgakidis]

^ I do not think the ck9 long shotgun capsules will work on a 460 body b/c of the way they half slip over the 451/2 bodies.  To my knowledge ck9x caps do not exist/were never made for the same reason that ck9 capsules are not appropriate for the 460 bodies.  They require the 451/2 body to fit inside one end of the capsule for additional support in mounting due to their length (~ 24")/weight.

Also not included in the thread are the ck22 omni capsules (newer version than ck2), and the vintage ck26 (omni) and ck28 (cardioid) capsules designed for the c60 tube mics.  The ck26 and ck28 definitely will work with the 451/2 bodies, although I do not know if they will work with the 460/a60_ combo.

Also, there is the a60p (plastic) version of the reducer rings, which is readily identifiable by the small metal loop on the inside of the side which mates with the 460 body.  The a60m (metal) reducer rings do not have this small metal loop.

So the ck8's WILL work with a reducer ring onto the 460's?

[easy jim]

So the ck8's WILL work with a reducer ring onto the 460's?

Absolutely...and it is the 'best' modular shotgun option IMO for recording music.  The 460's transformer balances out a bit of the brightness inherent to the shotgun caps, and makes for a beautiful sounding combo.

[datbrad]

So the ck8's WILL work with a reducer ring onto the 460's?

Absolutely...and it is the 'best' modular shotgun option IMO for recording music.  The 460's transformer balances out a bit of the brightness inherent to the shotgun caps, and makes for a beautiful sounding combo.

I bought my 460s orginally with the A60/CK8 combo and ran them in the fall of '94 when taping from the Grateful Dead OTS, and did not like them as much as my old Nak guns, frankly. There was just something about them I can't put my finger on. When I got the CK63s a couple months later, I was in love, and the guns never came out of the closet again. I finally sold them off to a dude in the DC area in '02, and did not look back. I asked and got $400 for the pair of CK8s mint with the A60s included. It was just a guess on the price then, but from the posts I have read since, I think it was a very fair deal.

[easy jim]

^ sounds like a great deal to me. 

Maybe you justed liked the warm/fuzzy of the Nak guns better?  I think the AKGs are less colored sounding to my ears than the Nak guns.  I agree the CK63s hypers are almost always a better choice than short shotguns, unless you're really stuck in the back of a large venue.  For those situations, however, the ck8 capsules excell IMO.

[run_run_run]

^ sounds like a great deal to me. 

Maybe you justed liked the warm/fuzzy of the Nak guns better?  I think the AKGs are less colored sounding to my ears than the Nak guns.  I agree the CK63s hypers are almost always a better choice than short shotguns, unless you're really stuck in the back of a large venue.  For those situations, however, the ck8 capsules excell IMO.

I need to listen to some ck8 tapes, but the warm/fuzzy Nak CP-4s really do it for me.

[tgakidis]

Just found this on the akg achives.  The ck62-DF http://www.akg.com/mediendatenbank2/pspic/hires/6/CK_62_DF4055d398e7299.gif

To bad I don't read german  .  Anyone ever hear of this cap?