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Title: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
Post by: gormenghast on November 08, 2017, 03:46:59 PM
I pretty much don't go to concert anymore except for my kid who's in the HS Winds Ensemble and Jazz Band.  I used a Zoom H4n Pro the other night to record his jazz concert.  Internals.  There is a kid a grade below him who is very talented and played an amazing solo improv that just blew us away.  Of course his dad was sitting next to me and wanted a copy of the show.  He received it and wanted to know more about the recorder--I guess to record his son himself.  FWIW, I think the recording turned out very good.

I was wondering how does one go about reading specs to see how noisy a recorder can be?  Is there anyway to record something and view it in Audacity that would show how noisy or not the recorder is?
Title: Re: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
Post by: rippleish20 on November 09, 2017, 10:20:43 AM
The H4N is fairly noisy from what I can see
EIN gives an idea of Pre-amp noise.

EIN Numbers (I found different sites with slightly different numbers in some cases but this gives an idea. The SDs are more like ~129)

PCM-M10              -122dB
SD7XX                 -133dB
Zoom F8              -127dB
Tascam DR-680    -127dB
Zoom H6              -120dB
Zoom H4N            -107dB

http://wildtronics.com/recorderguide.html
Title: Re: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
Post by: hoserama on November 09, 2017, 10:23:56 AM
Didn't they advertise they improved the pre-amps with the H4N Pro? As opposed to the original H4N
Title: Re: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
Post by: rippleish20 on November 09, 2017, 10:35:45 AM
Didn't they advertise they improved the pre-amps with the H4N Pro? As opposed to the original H4N

Looks like you are correct,

H4N Pro -120dB
Title: Re: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
Post by: avmonkey on November 22, 2017, 01:57:32 AM
The H6 has better preamps
Title: Re: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
Post by: IronFilm on November 29, 2017, 07:05:40 PM
Tascam DR-680    -127dB

That is for the mk2, I wonder how is the DR680 mk1 ?
Title: Re: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
Post by: rippleish20 on November 29, 2017, 07:13:34 PM
Tascam DR-680    -127dB

That is for the mk2, I wonder how is the DR680 mk1 ?

http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm

The same according to this
Title: Re: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
Post by: dallman on November 29, 2017, 09:16:31 PM
Tascam DR-680    -127dB

That is for the mk2, I wonder how is the DR680 mk1 ?

http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm

The same according to this
That is with the gain in High, which is not the usual setting. Most concerts are likely recorded on Low.