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recording in a cave
« on: March 29, 2015, 04:46:40 AM »
ola !
Will go very soon to a festival in a cave under the earth.
it will be amplified/loud  music ... I am not sure what capsules I have to use,
I can select from AT(U)853 hypercards, subcards, cards or DPA4061 omnis.
If someone can help which would be the best choise for me it would be great !
THANK YOU !!!
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Re: recording in a cave
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2015, 06:43:43 AM »
Taper #1: "Dude, that recording has so much refelection it sounds like it was recorded inside a cave".
Taper #2: "It was recorded inside a cave."
Taper #1: "Oh, nevermind."

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Re: recording in a cave
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2015, 10:45:46 AM »
sort of on topic, while being off topic at the same time,….

Underground cistern in Washington state. This space has a 45second reverb decay cycle.
The image is also a link to some info about this space:


There are tracks of this cistern featured in this CD, by David Hykes.  It is with the Harmonic Choir of harmonic overtone vocalists, a style most people know from Tuvan throat singing.  The harmonic overtones create other-wordly inhuman-like tones. The reverb cycle of the cistern plays off of this extremely well.  Well worth finding.

I guess that you're going to want a link or something to suggest what CD this is, ehh?
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Re: recording in a cave
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2015, 07:56:21 AM »
Sorry man.  Like ted said.
needin some fishhead music!

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Re: recording in a cave
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2015, 12:52:58 PM »
Taper #1: "Dude, that recording has so much refelection it sounds like it was recorded inside a cave".
Taper #2: "It was recorded inside a cave."
Taper #1: "Oh, nevermind."

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thanks man, ... so probably I will run subs and hypers :-)
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Re: recording in a cave
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2015, 02:57:36 PM »
Curious if the cave in question is Germany's Balver Hohle?

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Re: recording in a cave
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2015, 03:57:07 PM »
It's loud and amplified, you'll be safest if you approach it like any inside venue with questionable acoustics and setup as Ted recommends.

That cool cistern is basically a gigantic reverb chamber.  Works for very specific types of tonal music without much transients, bathed in 'verb, would be a total mess for others.  Some caves offer very good acoustics for acoustic music depending on their geometry.  The non-uniform, non-parallel craggy surfaces form natural diffusers.  How many tourist caves still have pipe-organs built into them?  That used to be a thing.

Checkout the 333ft underground  Volcano room at Cumberland Caverns, TN http://cumberlandcaverns.com/bluegrass-underground/



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Re: recording in a cave
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2015, 11:32:02 AM »
Curious if the cave in question is Germany's Balver Hohle?

right country - wrong cave :-)
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Re: recording in a cave
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2015, 11:33:38 AM »
beside the technical question I really have to know how cold it is inside ???
... better a ask the promoter such things :-)
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Re: recording in a cave
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2015, 12:45:10 PM »
One of the nice things about caves is they tend to have a consistent temperature and never get too hot or cold. Generally on the cool side unless you're around steam vents or something I guess.

The Cumberland Caverns mentioned above is exactly what this thread made me think of. I've never seen a show there but as a boy scout we visited, toured/explored (had my shoes sucked off in Bubblegum Alley), and slept there overnight.
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