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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #180 on: January 26, 2018, 09:25:59 PM »
These are my way to power IPA.

1. 5V USB battery pack > DC step up cable > IPA
The battery pack worked well for the first 10 seconds, but it was turned off.

2. NP-F550/Battery plate adapter > DC cable > IPA
This adapter worked fine consistently and it is compatible with larger capacity battery.
One defect is that there is no ON/OFF switch.
Mics/Caps: AKG CK61/CK63, Countryman B3(Hi Sens, 4.7K MOD)
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #181 on: February 02, 2018, 01:16:06 PM »
These are my way to power IPA.

1. 5V USB battery pack > DC step up cable > IPA
The battery pack worked well for the first 10 seconds, but it was turned off.

2. NP-F550/Battery plate adapter > DC cable > IPA
This adapter worked fine consistently and it is compatible with larger capacity battery.
One defect is that there is no ON/OFF switch.

Mind if I ask where you picked up or bought your USB > DC Step Up Cable?
Recorders: Zoom H6, Marantz PMD 661 MKII, Tascam DR-2D, Sony PCM-M10 | Preamps: Naiant IPA, Church Audio Ugly 2, Tascam iXJ2 | Mics: Neumann KM140, Church Audio CA 14 Cardioids

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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #182 on: February 02, 2018, 01:39:15 PM »
These are my way to power IPA.

1. 5V USB battery pack > DC step up cable > IPA
The battery pack worked well for the first 10 seconds, but it was turned off.

2. NP-F550/Battery plate adapter > DC cable > IPA
This adapter worked fine consistently and it is compatible with larger capacity battery.
One defect is that there is no ON/OFF switch.

Mind if I ask where you picked up or bought your USB > DC Step Up Cable?

I bought it from local open market. You could get a similar thing at Amazon or Ebay.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=5v+to+12v
Mics/Caps: AKG CK61/CK63, Countryman B3(Hi Sens, 4.7K MOD)
Cables: NBob Actives
Preamps: Naiant IPA(KCY/3.5)
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #183 on: February 04, 2018, 09:36:17 AM »
These are my way to power IPA.

1. 5V USB battery pack > DC step up cable > IPA
The battery pack worked well for the first 10 seconds, but it was turned off.

2. NP-F550/Battery plate adapter > DC cable > IPA
This adapter worked fine consistently and it is compatible with larger capacity battery.
One defect is that there is no ON/OFF switch.
so 1 works or it doesn't?
Confused because you said it worked foR 10 seconds
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #184 on: February 05, 2018, 02:06:38 AM »
These are my way to power IPA.

1. 5V USB battery pack > DC step up cable > IPA
The battery pack worked well for the first 10 seconds, but it was turned off.

2. NP-F550/Battery plate adapter > DC cable > IPA
This adapter worked fine consistently and it is compatible with larger capacity battery.
One defect is that there is no ON/OFF switch.
so 1 works or it doesn't?
Confused because you said it worked foR 10 seconds

#1 does NOT work. I think a usb out of battery pack could not recognize opposite side as something to charge.
Mics/Caps: AKG CK61/CK63, Countryman B3(Hi Sens, 4.7K MOD)
Cables: NBob Actives
Preamps: Naiant IPA(KCY/3.5)
Recorders: Sony PCM-M10

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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #185 on: February 11, 2018, 12:42:48 PM »
  PS:  I've been sketching a digital version of the IPA that would have both analog & digital outputs in AES3/SPDIF format (optical as an option) and would run on 5V-10V digital or 12V-48V analog phantom power (analog output only) or 5V external.  This would have 110dBA dynamic range and options for preemphasis or dither for 16-bit compatibility (should be about 100dBA in 16-bit mode), and the ability to sync units via aux SPDIF input.
so as someone who is always an idiot when it comes to understanding this stuff, if you are saying this version could support 48v mics, then I think it's a great idea.
The best part of a __box was the option to support multi formats. For example my tb does 48v/pip/actives and I love that so if the new IPA supported that too I would be super happy

No the IPA is a P48 device, it doesn't support P48 devices.  You should think of it as a microphone body that has a few added features.
So the ipa is a "mic body amp." When running my ipa with phantom power I must set the deck (or pre) to mic in.
Is 0db gain the correct setting for mic in?
A little confused on the gain setting when using phantom power.
Thanks for clarifying this.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2018, 02:50:38 PM by MBHOTAPER »

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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #186 on: February 11, 2018, 03:30:34 PM »
  PS:  I've been sketching a digital version of the IPA that would have both analog & digital outputs in AES3/SPDIF format (optical as an option) and would run on 5V-10V digital or 12V-48V analog phantom power (analog output only) or 5V external.  This would have 110dBA dynamic range and options for preemphasis or dither for 16-bit compatibility (should be about 100dBA in 16-bit mode), and the ability to sync units via aux SPDIF input.
so as someone who is always an idiot when it comes to understanding this stuff, if you are saying this version could support 48v mics, then I think it's a great idea.
The best part of a __box was the option to support multi formats. For example my tb does 48v/pip/actives and I love that so if the new IPA supported that too I would be super happy

No the IPA is a P48 device, it doesn't support P48 devices.  You should think of it as a microphone body that has a few added features.
So the ipa is a "mic body amp." When running my ipa with phantom power I must set the deck (or pre) to mic in.
Is 0db gain the correct setting for mic in?
A little confused on the gain setting when using phantom power.
Thanks for clarifying this.
i don't have one but I know people can and do go line in
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #187 on: February 11, 2018, 03:41:47 PM »
  PS:  I've been sketching a digital version of the IPA that would have both analog & digital outputs in AES3/SPDIF format (optical as an option) and would run on 5V-10V digital or 12V-48V analog phantom power (analog output only) or 5V external.  This would have 110dBA dynamic range and options for preemphasis or dither for 16-bit compatibility (should be about 100dBA in 16-bit mode), and the ability to sync units via aux SPDIF input.
so as someone who is always an idiot when it comes to understanding this stuff, if you are saying this version could support 48v mics, then I think it's a great idea.
The best part of a __box was the option to support multi formats. For example my tb does 48v/pip/actives and I love that so if the new IPA supported that too I would be super happy

No the IPA is a P48 device, it doesn't support P48 devices.  You should think of it as a microphone body that has a few added features.
So the ipa is a "mic body amp." When running my ipa with phantom power I must set the deck (or pre) to mic in.
Is 0db gain the correct setting for mic in?
A little confused on the gain setting when using phantom power.
Thanks for clarifying this.
i don't have one but I know people can and do go line in
IPA has 3 gain selections (0,9,18). Using line in (deck or pre) the gain setting will be 9db or 18db on the ipa - mic attenuator. Then you are powering the IPA with an a23 battery.
My question is:
"When running an ipa with phantom power (powering ipa instead of a23 battery) I will be using mic in (deck or pre) - is 0db gain the correct ipa setting?" Pretty sure 0db is correct but looking for confirmation.
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #188 on: February 12, 2018, 10:03:35 AM »
With the mic input you would use 0dB gain which is a mic level signal.

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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #189 on: February 12, 2018, 10:41:43 PM »
With the mic input you would use 0dB gain which is a mic level signal.
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #190 on: February 12, 2018, 11:07:08 PM »
  PS:  I've been sketching a digital version of the IPA that would have both analog & digital outputs in AES3/SPDIF format (optical as an option) and would run on 5V-10V digital or 12V-48V analog phantom power (analog output only) or 5V external.  This would have 110dBA dynamic range and options for preemphasis or dither for 16-bit compatibility (should be about 100dBA in 16-bit mode), and the ability to sync units via aux SPDIF input.
so as someone who is always an idiot when it comes to understanding this stuff, if you are saying this version could support 48v mics, then I think it's a great idea.
The best part of a __box was the option to support multi formats. For example my tb does 48v/pip/actives and I love that so if the new IPA supported that too I would be super happy

No the IPA is a P48 device, it doesn't support P48 devices.  You should think of it as a microphone body that has a few added features.
So the ipa is a "mic body amp." When running my ipa with phantom power I must set the deck (or pre) to mic in.
Is 0db gain the correct setting for mic in?
A little confused on the gain setting when using phantom power.
Thanks for clarifying this.
i don't have one but I know people can and do go line in
IPA has 3 gain selections (0,9,18). Using line in (deck or pre) the gain setting will be 9db or 18db on the ipa - mic attenuator. Then you are powering the IPA with an a23 battery.
My question is:
"When running an ipa with phantom power (powering ipa instead of a23 battery) I will be using mic in (deck or pre) - is 0db gain the correct ipa setting?" Pretty sure 0db is correct but looking for confirmation.
so you can't go line in and be at 0db?

Glad you got confirmation though
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #191 on: February 18, 2018, 11:48:13 AM »
Fwiw I always set my IPA to 18 to get really nice levels running 4.5 to 5.5 or so on m10 for loud rock 40-60 feet from stage. For acoustic m10 is wide open.
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #192 on: March 07, 2018, 11:55:06 AM »
Fwiw I always set my IPA to 18 to get really nice levels running 4.5 to 5.5 or so on m10 for loud rock 40-60 feet from stage. For acoustic m10 is wide open.
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #193 on: March 10, 2018, 09:44:59 AM »
I see a lot of options and I am not familiar with the parts names so could some be so kind as to tell me what two input connectors I have so I can replace these with the IPA's?


Thanks,
NT
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #194 on: March 10, 2018, 11:39:53 AM »
I see a lot of options and I am not familiar with the parts names so could some be so kind as to tell me what two input connectors I have so I can replace these with the IPA's?


Thanks,
NT
thats 5 pin binder female and 6 pin mini xlr male
As listed on Naiant IPA pat...5 pin binder for schoeps kcy and stereo tb6m
« Last Edit: March 10, 2018, 11:44:03 AM by willndmb »
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

 

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