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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2017, 04:17:04 PM »
Is it possible that there are two different types of CK1 out there?
One kind is an electret capsule, for use with the "active" cable.  Ck1x
There other type is an externally polarized, ck1 capsule.

Not sure if this is your problem, but it may explain some problems you're having putting capsules on various mics,

Also note that only the 460 capsules work with the active cable ck1x.  CK1x won't work with 480's.

Good luck.

He was using my Naiant actives/pfa.......works great with all if akg caps

OK, is it ck1 > a60 reducer ring > Naiant active then?

Need to make sure the center pin connects OK.  I guess it should be OK because the ck1 + reducer ring were designed for 460/480 bodies...

BTW I've got Naiant actives with CK63 caps.  The work great for me.
Have not tried the other actives.

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PS: If anyone has reducer rings and/or CK61 caps, I'm still looking to build my "collection".   Thanks...
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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2017, 04:22:52 PM »
Is it possible that there are two different types of CK1 out there?
One kind is an electret capsule, for use with the "active" cable.  Ck1x
There other type is an externally polarized, ck1 capsule.

Not sure if this is your problem, but it may explain some problems you're having putting capsules on various mics,

Also note that only the 460 capsules work with the active cable ck1x.  CK1x won't work with 480's.

Good luck.

He was using my Naiant actives/pfa.......works great with all if akg caps

OK, is it ck1 > a60 reducer ring > Naiant active then?

Need to make sure the center pin connects OK.  I guess it should be OK because the ck1 + reducer ring were designed for 460/480 bodies...

BTW I've got Naiant actives with CK63 caps.  The work great for me.
Have not tried the other actives.

  Richard

PS: If anyone has reducer rings and/or CK61 caps, I'm still looking to build my "collection".   Thanks...

we have run that combo many times. The reducers work fine with the PFAs ck1,ck22, ck8 have all been run with them in our rig.
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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2017, 04:33:18 PM »
Does anyone have a contact for akg repair\service for Charlie? Rematching of mics within a certain standard deviation or range should be a common problem they've encountered. I'm sure they would charge you but they should repair them right? I'm a little spoiled with mbhos lifetime warranty - had my cards sent in after 16 years use no questions asked and no charge. Took 2 months to get them back from Europe though (hand made caps).
Rich Lands at Lands Audio is the US AKG guy. Not sure if thats what he needs though.
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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2017, 04:48:33 PM »
I hate these fucking rings. I forgot all about them. Maybe I can find a new pair of rings.
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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2017, 04:55:02 PM »
Does anyone have a contact for akg repair\service for Charlie? Rematching of mics within a certain standard deviation or range should be a common problem they've encountered. I'm sure they would charge you but they should repair them right? I'm a little spoiled with mbhos lifetime warranty - had my cards sent in after 16 years use no questions asked and no charge. Took 2 months to get them back from Europe though (hand made caps).
Rich Lands at Lands Audio is the US AKG guy. Not sure if thats what he needs though.

on the phone w him now. thanks
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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2017, 05:23:19 PM »
Sending the mics off to Rich Lands and he's gonna figure it all out for me.
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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2017, 06:56:55 PM »
Followinbob sells.tue reducers new...mKes them hit him.up
Mics:  Gefell M20,M21/sms2000/nbob | Schoeps MK4V/cmc6/nbob | AKG c460b/c480b/a60/Naiant actives - ck61,62,63,69 ;ck1,3,8;ck1x,2x,3x | AT853, AT933 | CA-11c,o
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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2017, 08:35:14 PM »
Sending the mics off to Rich Lands and he's gonna figure it all out for me.
For a steep fee.
I thought this board had found a better repair place than richard?
I know someone who paid a fortune for him to not be able to remove and replace a bad part. Good luck
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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2017, 09:49:38 PM »
yeah, after looking at the fees, it's gonna cost more than the mics, so I'm going a different route.

speaking of which, this looks really nice. I can use my CK8's with it too.

http://www.akg.com/Microphones/Drum%20Microphone%20Bundles/C451BMatPair.html?dwvar_C451BMatPair_color=Nickel-GLOBAL-Current#utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=retargeting&utm_campaign=cx14rebate&start=1
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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2017, 10:06:54 PM »
yeah, after looking at the fees, it's gonna cost more than the mics, so I'm going a different route.

speaking of which, this looks really nice. I can use my CK8's with it too.

http://www.akg.com/Microphones/Drum%20Microphone%20Bundles/C451BMatPair.html?dwvar_C451BMatPair_color=Nickel-GLOBAL-Current#utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=retargeting&utm_campaign=cx14rebate&start=1

These are fixed capsule I believe
Mics:  Gefell M20,M21/sms2000/nbob | Schoeps MK4V/cmc6/nbob | AKG c460b/c480b/a60/Naiant actives - ck61,62,63,69 ;ck1,3,8;ck1x,2x,3x | AT853, AT933 | CA-11c,o
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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2017, 10:46:54 PM »
The newer 451B is definitely a different mic than the old 451/CK1.  Many engineers really find the vintage CK1 sound more pleasant (when in good shape, of course).

Richard Land isn't super cheap, but he will get your gear in "like-new" condition, and was the AKG "official" repair option.  Not sure if that's still the case or not.
I love AKG gear, but I will agree that some of the older stuff is starting to deteriorate and needs attention/repair. Once it gets worked on, it should be good for another 20 years or so.


yeah, after looking at the fees, it's gonna cost more than the mics, so I'm going a different route.

speaking of which, this looks really nice. I can use my CK8's with it too.

http://www.akg.com/Microphones/Drum%20Microphone%20Bundles/C451BMatPair.html?dwvar_C451BMatPair_color=Nickel-GLOBAL-Current#utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=retargeting&utm_campaign=cx14rebate&start=1

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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2017, 11:46:09 PM »
I really see a new pair of 480’s in my future
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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2017, 11:53:48 PM »
Anyone running the longer CK9 capsules.  These are really cheap on Ebay right now,

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AKG-CK9-Boom-Microphone-For-C451e/152496838640?hash=item23818517f0:g:qlAAAOSwc-tY4tog

Note: the 451 mic body seems to insert into them.
There is a CK1 capsule buried in there.
May not work with 460/480 + reducer caps.

Would be great if you already had a set of 451 bodies though...


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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2017, 01:26:35 AM »
Anyone running the longer CK9 capsules.  These are really cheap on Ebay right now,

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AKG-CK9-Boom-Microphone-For-C451e/152496838640?hash=item23818517f0:g:qlAAAOSwc-tY4tog

Note: the 451 mic body seems to insert into them.
There is a CK1 capsule buried in there.
May not work with 460/480 + reducer caps.

Would be great if you already had a set of 451 bodies though...




I have 452’s that I’m testing too
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Re: AKG CK1's sound test
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2017, 11:00:48 AM »
I really see a new pair of 480’s in my future

I get the feeling you may want to act sooner than later with the Austrian factory closure earlier this year.

Edit - I just checked AKG's website and the 480 preamplifiers (amongst other mics) are on back order until 2/4/18. The CK6x capsules are in stock, though.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2017, 11:25:09 AM by audBall »

 

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