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mk22> Sonosax SX-R4 VS. mk22> SD Mixpre6 Comp
noahbickart:
Hi everyone:
Andyjah and I ran some identical Schoeps rigs this Phish NYE Run, and I thought others might want to compare. In the following, the only variable was the Micpre/AD stage. The rigs were as follows:
Andyjah: Schoeps mk22> nbob actives> Naiant PFAs> Sonosax SX-R4 (24bit/96khz)
Noahbickart: Schoeps mk22> nbob actives> Naiant PFAs> Sound Devices Mixpre6 (24bit/48khz)
The microphones were on the same stand, inches apart from one another in identical rycote shockmounts. Each of us used a 60° angle, and 30cm spacing, on Shapeways 3d printed bars. You can see the bar and the pattern via the pictures below.
Andy's file was downsampled to 48kHz, and the files are level matched and normalized. New member and new (schoeps) taper wforwumbo did the 96kHz> 48kHz conversion, and level matching. He disguised the files from me, so I don't even know which is which.
So here is "Tweezer" from 12/30, from both rigs:
File 1: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cRJR6iAtcIOW4B2CFLOVDU-clPV2KmvP
File 2: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YYYvD1eqLFE78PnmJvb29TebvXRTKWlV
Please vote!!!
I'll reveal the sources via PM
noahbickart:
I didn't get such a good rig picture the night of this comp, but this is from night one:
wforwumbo:
Just a quick tech note for those of you who may care about these things:
The downsampling of Andy’s tape was done using XLD, with the VHQ minimum phase setting (I find linear phase option for VHQ resampling creates too much of a group delay lag which to my ear is audible, even for perfect ratio 2x downsampling). Level matching and normalization (the latter of which I suspect I shouldn’t have done) as well as ID3 tag wiping were performed in Logic Pro 10.3; both raw files were within 1 dB-FS of each other before level matching, I didn’t check after normalization.
If any of you are critical of any of these steps, let me know and I’ll re-process the files if I agree with the criticism.
rippleish20:
I would be interested in hearing a sample of both recordings later without manipulation. I recognize the 96 versus 48 would give it away, but things like downsampling and normalization can change the sound. (perhaps after the voting is done)
noahbickart:
--- Quote from: rippleish20 on January 07, 2018, 02:44:52 PM ---I would be interested in hearing a sample of both recordings later without manipulation. I recognize the 96 versus 48 would give it away, but things like downsampling and normalization can change the sound. (perhaps after the voting is done)
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Andyjah: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=597091
Noahbickart: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=596987
You can select the Tweezer from each torrent to compare the original files.
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