Topic: Recommendations for first taping with Edirol R-09

[tmgtim]

Hi,
So this Saturday with be my first concert taping with my newly acquired edirol R-09. Since I'm too paranoid to bring it out mid show to check the levels I'm hoping to get some opinions on the input level I should use. I realise it's dependent on a million factors so will hold no one responsible for their opinions! Just looking for some ideas.
I'm using the R-09 with SP-CMC-2 microphones from sound professionals through a SP-SPSB-8 9v battery power supply into the line-in of the r-09
The concert is Muse so loud and probably a pretty excited crowd too. The venue is the Sydney Entertainment Centre which seats 12,000 people and I'm centre stage but in the seats waaaay up the back (still kicking myself for forgetting the sale date)

Like I said - thoughts and ideas very much welcomed and by no means taken as gospel...

Thanks,
Tim

[~sin213~]

There's really no way to tell - you will have to adjust it right when the show starts, then put it away.  If you're in seats, it shouldn't be too hard to take a quick look at it.  Most folks will think its your cell phone.

The one piece of advice, learning from my first tape with my R09 tonight, is know where your buttons are at...I forgot which side the input level buttons were on and found myself fumbling with it in the dark trying to get the levels down.  If you can adjust and place on hold when all set with minimal glances at the screen to check the levels, you'll be golden!

Good luck!

[JD]

I order to dull the brightness of the display on my R09; I taped a few pieces of colored cellophane type material over the display. I believe I used two pieces of red and two pieces of purple.

With the R09 set at the lowest brightness setting and the cellophane on there you can see the levels well, with out anyone noticing.
 

[tmgtim]

I order to dull the brightness of the display on my R09; I taped a few pieces of colored cellophane type material over the display. I believe I used two pieces of red and two pieces of purple.

With the R09 set at the lowest brightness setting and the cellophane on there you can see the levels well, with out anyone noticing.
 

That's a nice idea - I might play around with that - thanks

[Arni99]

start with level 15-17, should be ok for your mics and loud shows.

[3-Fan]

I ran SP CMC-2>SP-SPSB8>R-09 for one show.  It was outdoors and Nickel Creek and Fiona Apple (amplified acoustic) and maybe 40' from the stage.  I had the R-09 at 30 and the BB cranked all the way and still had to boost 16db post.  I know loud rock and indoors is a whole different situation.  As mentioned, you should be able to adjust levels really easily on the R-09 during taping.  Or  adjust the BB very easily too during taping.  You will want to peak around -6 on the R-09.

Good luck and have fun. 

[bugg100]

The best thing you could do is to get out in the open with your gear and test  in a real world setting with a real PA system.  Got clubs near you?  It may be time to start talking to bands somewhat similar to whom you want to tape low profile. 

Just let them know that you want to tape for personal use only and that you would get them copies, you will find some who will at least tolerate you.....

Joe

[Belexes]

I like the advice of testing things out beforehand if you can...try and find a club/local show on Friday if you are free to test things out so that on Saturday you'll run your rig with more confidence.

[tmgtim]

Yeah, I agree - I'd like to test it in a small band venue first as well - trouble is I have the perfect opportunity to do this the weekend after the concert... Before that I don't really have an opportunity so that's why I was asking for recommendations. Anyway, thanks for your responses - some nice ideas here

[bedoc]

just got an edirol yesterday, and even with the french documentation, I don't find what are the best settings for a line in recording :
I will use my edirol with SP-CMC-4 & SP-SPSB-1 battery box

Can somebody confirm these are good :

AGC : off
Low cut : off
Mic gain : low
Rec monitor Sw : off
Plug-in Power : off

thanks 

[guysonic]

just got an edirol yesterday, and even with the french documentation, I don't find what are the best settings for a line in recording :
I will use my edirol with SP-CMC-4 & SP-SPSB-1 battery box

Can somebody confirm these are good :

AGC : off
Low cut : off
Mic gain : low
Rec monitor Sw : off
Plug-in Power : off

thanks 

MIC input sensitivity/mic power means nothing when using LINE input, so suggest LINE input only with REC adjustment starting at ~#15 for being in the ballpark for expected preamplifier output level.

[bedoc]

ok thanks for the advive