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Gear / Technical Help => Recording Gear => Topic started by: AlexG on December 05, 2007, 08:34:57 PM
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I love my iRiver but I am not a huge fan of moving parts so I wanted to see if I could replace the hard drive with flash drive. I purchased a CF to 50 pin IDE adapter on ebay a while back to try and see if it was possible.
The adapter has a very large jumper on the front that is taller than everything else. I am pretty sure I am going to have to trim that if this works
Side by side next to the broken drive i pulled out of my iRiver. You can see the jumper in this picture on the front right edge.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/asg1290/SideBySide.jpg)
More of the adapter/jumper from the side
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/asg1290/ThreeQuarterAnglewCF.jpg)
Here is another shot from the front with the CF card inserted
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/asg1290/SideBySide-ThreeQuarter.jpg)
Here is another side by side shot from the side. You can really see how big that jumper is here.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/asg1290/SideBySide-Side.jpg)
Another shot from the side
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/asg1290/Side-ThreeQuarter.jpg)
Here I laid the adapter on top of the broken drive.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/asg1290/OnTop.jpg)
I cracked open the iRiver put the adapter and cf card on and turned the unit on.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/asg1290/IMG_0719.jpg)
The drive came up as a usb device like it should! so I started copying the rockbox files over
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/asg1290/IMG_0718.jpg)
This took a long time, but I'm using a crappy CF card for now as a proof of concept.
Now for the moment of truth will it boot?
No :(
It froze at the bootloader screen and now the thing won't even turn on with the old hard drive :( I'm not sure what happened but I'll see if I can break it from it's slumber but I'm not very happy right now...
Edit - Ok a reset of the device brought it back with the old Hard Drive still trying to get it to boot the flash drive
Edit2 - I tried a different CF card and it worked! now I need to start trimming some jumpers to get this thing to fit inside
Edit3 - So I just bent the jumpers down so it'll fit in the case and I was able to put it back together
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/asg1290/IMG_0740.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/asg1290/IMG_0739.jpg)
As you can see my 4gb flash card shows up and the system seems to work. I'm going to give her a field run this weekend I'll let you know how it goes.
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wow!
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OK, that f'ing rulz... +T
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Brilliant!
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Cool sh|t!
Did you make or buy the drive connector part that converts to CF?
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Cool sh|t!
Did you make or buy the drive connector part that converts to CF?
I bought the adapter off of ebay from this dude in hong kong. Here is one of his current listens for the same adapter
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SSD-CF-to-ipod-IDE-Adaptor-as-1-8-toshiba-Hard-Drive_W0QQitemZ140186757718QQihZ004QQcategoryZ41993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SSD-CF-to-ipod-IDE-Adaptor-as-1-8-toshiba-Hard-Drive_W0QQitemZ140186757718QQihZ004QQcategoryZ41993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
There seems to be other places now that are selling them online. Why search I say this thing works and it isn't too expensive.
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thanks +T
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pretty cool :)
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Hi AlexG
Did the same mod a few days ago, and till now everthing works fine - tonight I'll try it in the field!
I also bought a 16GB CF-card, but I havn't received it yet. Well, Santa Claus has a lot to do these days ;)
Nice pics of your mod!
cheers,
d.d
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That's pretty cool! Can you ouput through the normal connections, or do you have to pull the case apart and get the chip out?
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Nice work.
Thanks for the pics
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Amazing!
How does battery life compare using Flash?
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Amazing!
How does battery life compare using Flash?
Very cool, Alex! :cheers:
I bet the battery life will be much better.
When I get the time and $$, I'm going to do this. I love modifying stuff ;D
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That's pretty cool! Can you ouput through the normal connections, or do you have to pull the case apart and get the chip out?
Everything works the same but you do have to take it apart to get the hard drive or cf card out. This isn't a filed replaceable CF mod, just a storage swap.
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So, I just happen to have one of these adapters and a extra compact flash card.
Does anyone have a working iRiver with a bad hard-drive that they want to sell me?
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So, I just happen to have one of these adapters and a extra compact flash card.
Does anyone have a working iRiver with a bad hard-drive that they want to sell me?
There are a few on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290188615657&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=019 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290188615657&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=019)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270193153442&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270193153442&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017)
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^ who knows what else is wrong with those iRivers. They are missing a battery and a hard drive for a reason. Plenty or iRivers with burnt-up power supplies out there....
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^ who knows what else is wrong with those iRivers. They are missing a battery and a hard drive for a reason. Plenty or iRivers with burnt-up power supplies out there....
you mean they were fried w/ the wrong chargers by "burnt-up power supplies" i take it...
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Yes, thanks!
:)
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Everything works the same but you do have to take it apart to get the hard drive or cf card out. This isn't a filed replaceable CF mod, just a storage swap.
So, does the USB connector on the bottom of the H120 still allow you to read and write files off of the H120 with out having to re-open the H120 to "download" the show?
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Everything works the same but you do have to take it apart to get the hard drive or cf card out. This isn't a filed replaceable CF mod, just a storage swap.
So, does the USB connector on the bottom of the H120 still allow you to read and write files off of the H120 with out having to re-open the H120 to "download" the show?
yeah, the iRiver should work just like it did. All this does is just replace the harddrive with a new harddrive that just happens to be solid state!
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Yes, thanks!
:)
I meant to have a question mark on there, I figured that is what you meant...
I have a busted Iriver coming to me from ebay and have a good 20 gig HD here, I wanna toy around with it...
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Since I upgraded to a 40gb, if anyone needs a 20gb drive 100% working, PM me, as I have no idea what they are worth, but I should get rid of it.
Also, I have a 2100 mAh battery that I bought for my wife's H120 but it came in after I sold it, brand new. I also have 2 used 1300 mAh batteries, used, as is, make an offer.
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Anyone have an extra adapter they can sell?
I want to try this but ebay is the ony place with this adapter.
I haven't used ebay since i got burned a few years ago.
Just thought I would try here first
thanks
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I bought the CF adapter, now for the CF card... there are some cheap 16GB cards on ebay but the seller has to much negative comments :(
I contacted him about this but he's not responding...
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I bought the CF adapter, now for the CF card... there are some cheap 16GB cards on ebay but the seller has too much negative comments :(
I contacted him about this but he's not responding...
Newegg.com
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I bought the CF adapter, now for the CF card... there are some cheap 16GB cards on ebay but the seller has too much negative comments :(
I contacted him about this but he's not responding...
Newegg.com
I live in Belgium (Europe) and Newegg is one of those typical American shops that thinks the US is about all there is to this world.
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Ebay?
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So - would this work with a JB3? I thought I had heard of someone doing this to a JB3 also - but cant find a reference.
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So - would this work with a JB3? I thought I had heard of someone doing this to a JB3 also - but cant find a reference.
I don't see why it couldn't be possible. CF is just an IDE drive with different connector, you just need to find the right adapter.
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I live in Belgium (Europe) and Newegg is one of those typical American shops that thinks the US is about all there is to this world.
I have had some problems getting stuff shipped over here also, but this shouldn't be too difficult! I have had good luck on memory at some of the big office suppliers. If possible, try one that actually sells to businesses. They often have better prices than the music stores (which buy in much smaller amounts)...
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Just wanted to say I gave it a field run and all is good. There might be a possible issue with the spin down settings of the drive but I haven't had that problem yet.
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One question is left: what are the specs of the CF card you are using. I was about to buy a cheapo A-Data 'speedy' 16GB card (their speedy brand is actually the slowest card they have), and then somebody on the rockbox forums told us that the card works but is very sloooow.
So what are the read/write figures of your card and how does that relate to the real-life performance (compared to HDD operation for example).
I'm going for a 120x or 266x but due to the price difference I'd rather take the 120x if that is enough ;)
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Anyone that tries this... Please report back on what cards work and what cards don't work.
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Here are the specs of the card I have in there now. I have the 4gb model.
RIDATA 150X series CompactFlash™ Card is a flash memory card using flash technology based with ATA interface. They come with an advanced interface that enables excellent data transfer performance, and they can be operated in both 5-Volt and 3.3-Volt power supplies. RIDATA CF Card 150X provides a very low-power design with flash technology ruggedness, reliability, performance, and convenience. It is a perfect choice of solid-state mass-storage cards for handheld devices such as Digital Camera, MP3 Walkman, PDA, or the applications that require high environment tolerance.
Main Features:
• CompactFlash™ compliant
Conforms to CompactFlash™ Association standard
Compatible with PC Card standard and PC Card ATA
Support for CIS implemented with 256 bytes of attribute memory
• ATA/IDE interface
ATA command set compatible
Support for 8- or 16-bit host transfers host speed using IORDY
Compatible with host ATA disk I/O BIOS, DOS/Windows file system, utilities, and application software
• Extremely rugged and reliable
Solid-state reliability
1000-G operating / non-operating shock. 15-G vibration
500,000 power-on hours MTBF
• Available capacity: 256, 512 MB, 1GB, 2GB, 4GB and up to 8GB(**) available for type I format
** While using 4GB, 8GB CF card, user can use 4GB, 8GB capacity on the device that supports FAT32 file system. However, some devices support only FAT16 file system and a maximum of 2GB capacity. User can only use 2GB capacity on those devices.
• Single +5 Volt or 3.3 Volt power supply. Very low power consumption with automatic power management.
• Zero-power data retention, no batteries required
Product Specifications:
• Dimensions: Type I card: 36.4±0.15mm(L) x 42.8±0.1mm (W) x 3.3±0.1mm (H)
• Performance: Read access speed: Up to 22 MB/sec ; Write access speed: Up to 15 MB/sec
• Reliability: -MTBF 500,000 power-on hours
-ECC supporting two random bits of a sector “on-the-fly” ECC corrections
• Ruggedness: Shock, operating or non-operating 1000-G, any axis or direction Vibration, operating or non-operating 15-G peak, 0.5 sine wave, 10-1500 Hz, any axis or direction
• Operating Voltage: 5V +/- 10% or 3.3V +/ -5%
• Power consumption:
Read mode 30 mA (typ)
Write mode 30 mA (typ)
Sleep mode 100 uA (typ)
• Environment conditions:
Operating temperature 0°C to 70°C
Storage temperature -20°C to 75°C
Relative humidity 95%(Max)
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I can't seem to find one of the IDE to CF adapters on eBay. All of them have the male IDE end on them, like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/CF-to-44-Pin-LAPTOP-IDE-Hard-Drive-Adapter-bootable-K3_W0QQitemZ290205202534QQihZ019QQcategoryZ41994QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem.
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Think this is the guy you are looking for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/SSD-CF-to-ipod-IDE-Adaptor-as-1-8-toshiba-Hard-Drive_W0QQitemZ360022121216QQihZ023QQcategoryZ41993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Think this is the guy you are looking for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/SSD-CF-to-ipod-IDE-Adaptor-as-1-8-toshiba-Hard-Drive_W0QQitemZ360022121216QQihZ023QQcategoryZ41993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
yup, that's the one...
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I bought the CF adapter, now for the CF card... there are some cheap 16GB cards on ebay but the seller has to much negative comments :(
I contacted him about this but he's not responding...
There are guyz who are listed as selling from Germany or dont know where, yet they are chinese and sell cheap copies that are shipped from China, be carefull. (they even have european accounts and all)
I once ordered and then looked at the comments, then I wrote to him, and he accepted to delete my order, with no yes or no to the cheap copies matter... :angry2:
So I got the more expencive original, and am not sorry. :coolguy:
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Thanks for the tip, but too late.... I bought a x266 card from a trusted source ;)
Should arrive here any moment :D
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Think this is the guy you are looking for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/SSD-CF-to-ipod-IDE-Adaptor-as-1-8-toshiba-Hard-Drive_W0QQitemZ360022121216QQihZ023QQcategoryZ41993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Thank you.
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how does formatting the CF card inside the h120 work?
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how does formatting the CF card inside the h120 work?
I assume that as long as the card is FAT32, you're OK. Format via windows or the iriver firmware. Just as if it were a harddisk inside.
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Think this is the guy you are looking for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/SSD-CF-to-ipod-IDE-Adaptor-as-1-8-toshiba-Hard-Drive_W0QQitemZ360022121216QQihZ023QQcategoryZ41993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Thank you.
Here is a non ebay source
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10886 (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10886)
(stolen from the rockbox wiki)
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide)
One thing I'm seeing is you better get a CF card that fully implements the ATA spec. I didn't realize that some CF cards do not and it probably explains why my cheapo 2gb card didn't work but my Ridata one did.
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Here is a non ebay source
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10886 (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10886)
Alex, is this the exact same adaptor you used? I'll probably get a couple if they'll work.
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For those who did the mod and get an error (ata -80) at startup: there is hope :D
My card (A-Data turbo x266) also causes the issue, and last night I was able to tweak the bootloader into a working version. It still needs further debugging to find out why exactly certain things are failing but at least there is the knowledge that there will be a solution ;)
More updates will come in the RockBox forum and wiki...
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Here is a non ebay source
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10886 (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10886)
Alex, is this the exact same adaptor you used? I'll probably get a couple if they'll work.
Yeah that is pretty much the same thing that I have.
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One question is left: what are the specs of the CF card you are using. I was about to buy a cheapo A-Data 'speedy' 16GB card (their speedy brand is actually the slowest card they have), and then somebody on the rockbox forums told us that the card works but is very sloooow.
So what are the read/write figures of your card and how does that relate to the real-life performance (compared to HDD operation for example).
Hey Petur,
Does the speed have any adverse effect from a taper's point of view?!
If it simply affects boot time and transfer to/from PC, it's not a big problem from a taping perspective. But maybe there are other downsides that I neglected?!
/J
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I will need to try with some slower cards. I went for the speedier and lower capacity route (8GB x266) which is really nice.
I have not done any real long recordings, all in good time :)
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Just a quick note: as of now, Rockbox is compatible with CF cards :)
The bootloader might still be a bit of a problem as the currently 'released' bootloader doesn't yet include this support...
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Anyone doing this on a JB3?
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Anyone doing this on a JB3?
Well sort of, at least. There was a post about a successful CF mod of a JB1 last year:
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,79609.msg1071392.html#msg1071392
I vaguely recall other posts about modded JB3s here, but the buggy search function here on the forum ignores search phrases with only 2-3 characters. :P
Note that the JB3 IDE connector is for 2,5" drives, so you can't use the same adapter as for the Iriver 1,8" drive.
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Anyone doing this on a JB3?
Well sort of, at least. There was a post about a successful CF mod of a JB1 last year:
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,79609.msg1071392.html#msg1071392
I vaguely recall other posts about modded JB3s here, but the buggy search function here on the forum ignores search phrases with only 2-3 characters. :P
Note that the JB3 IDE connector is for 2,5" drives, so you can't use the same adapter as for the Iriver 1,8" drive.
That should be even easier to find an adapter since 2.5" drives are a standard size unlike the toshiba 1.8" drive. A quick goolge turns up this
http://www.addonics.com/products/flash_memory_reader/ad44midecf.asp (http://www.addonics.com/products/flash_memory_reader/ad44midecf.asp)
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I replaced my 320 hardrive last night with a Sandisc Ultra 4GB. It works fantasticlly. I wish I had a bigger card, but this will be fine for most shows.
So I have a working Toshiba HD I don't need anymore if someone wants to make an offer...
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One question is left: what are the specs of the CF card you are using. I was about to buy a cheapo A-Data 'speedy' 16GB card (their speedy brand is actually the slowest card they have), and then somebody on the rockbox forums told us that the card works but is very sloooow.
So what are the read/write figures of your card and how does that relate to the real-life performance (compared to HDD operation for example).
Hey Petur,
Does the speed have any adverse effect from a taper's point of view?!
If it simply affects boot time and transfer to/from PC, it's not a big problem from a taping perspective. But maybe there are other downsides that I neglected?!
/J
and what are the benefits to doing this?
I mean, it's really cool and all, and yeah, I like to mod
stuff "just because I can.." but if my H120 is working
fine, why would I want to do this?
(quite another thing if my HD is dead, def go solid state)
thanks, and apologies in advance for my ignorance.... :P
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I did it even though my hdd was still working just fine. I even lost 16GB in the switch to my 4GB CF card.
The CF gives better performance. Navigation is quicker and smoother. Songs load faster. But most importantly I think the hdd causes additional noise in my recordings. Besides that, we all know that these hdd's fail and I don;t want that to happen during a show....
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just remember that this is all quite new and although nobody saw anything go wrong yet, it isn't that thoroughly tested. Time will tell that there are no bugs in it....
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Well, I'm finally getting serious about doing this mod. I'm about to order the adaptor. What is the cheapest 4 GB CF card I can get that will work?
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i got an 4gb adata from newegg for 15.00 and the mod works great and seems it draws less battery, so longer runtime(should never be an issue with the 4gb card though)
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Well, I'm finally getting serious about doing this mod. I'm about to order the adaptor. What is the cheapest 4 GB CF card I can get that will work?
All cards should work, the A-Data and Transcend brands are the two cheapest that come to mind. If possible, spend a bit more and get a faster card (x120 or higher), that should make transfers to/from your player not so slow. I also haven't done any recording tests with slow cards (in theory it should work but I don't know how it works out with the rockbox recording buffers)
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Probably a very stupid question, but i am not well versed in CF cards. Is 4gb the largest capacity card you can get that will fit into the iRiver? Or is 4gb the max on any card?
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Probably a very stupid question, but i am not well versed in CF cards. Is 4gb the largest capacity card you can get that will fit into the iRiver? Or is 4gb the max on any card?
32GB is the largest currently.
All Compact Flash cards are the same physical size, just the capacity it bigger.
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just pulled my iriver out the other day to lend to a friend and it was making a bad hard drive noise.
i think i might have to go the CF route for this little workhorse of a recorder.
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It is not possible to take the CF Card out without taking the entire device apart out, is it.
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It is not possible to take the CF Card out without taking the entire device apart out, is it.
Pretty much
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All Compact Flash cards are the same physical size, just the capacity it bigger.
Incorrect, there is CF and CFII
From here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_flash
Type I and Type II
The only difference between the two types is that the Type II devices are 5 mm thick while Type I devices are 3.3 mm thick.[8] The vast majority of all Type II devices are Microdrives and other miniature hard drives. Flash based Type II devices are rare but a few examples do exist.[9][10] Even the largest capacity cards commonly available are Type I cards and most card readers will read both formats with the exception of some early CF based cameras where the slot is too small and some of the poorer quality USB card readers with the same problem.
I own both kinds, and the thickness is different, so be careful
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although I haven't tried, there should be plenty of room in the h1x0/h3x0 to fit a CF-II card. But the only CF-II cards I ever saw were microdrives or non-storage.
The adapter may need to be modded to handle the thicker cards though...
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i just took apart my hp120 to see if i could figure out why my HD was making noise...and i found a battery that was all swollen and puffy. took it out, replaced it with the factory original, and now it works fine. ordered the CF mod parts for about $20 total, so i'll swap out the HD regardless, just to loose the moving parts.
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although I haven't tried, there should be plenty of room in the h1x0/h3x0 to fit a CF-II card. But the only CF-II cards I ever saw were microdrives or non-storage.
The adapter may need to be modded to handle the thicker cards though...
I own a 8gb simpleTech CFII card, it works like a champ in my 671, just real slow to copy back to the PC
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i just took apart my hp120 to see if i could figure out why my HD was making noise...and i found a battery that was all swollen and puffy. took it out, replaced it with the factory original, and now it works fine. ordered the CF mod parts for about $20 total, so i'll swap out the HD regardless, just to loose the moving parts.
hehe, I had the exact same issue with my battery. Got a CameronSino one now that is sooo much better ;)
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It would be pretty interesting to collect all the data regarding the necessary stuff you need to mod your Iriver into CF (step by step mod, hardware needed, references, vendors, prices, etc...) and then stick this topic, would not it?
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It would be pretty interesting to collect all the data regarding the necessary stuff you need to mod your Iriver into CF (step by step mod, hardware needed, references, vendors, prices, etc...) and then stick this topic, would not it?
part of that can be found at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide), maybe just a bit too technical ;)
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It would be pretty interesting to collect all the data regarding the necessary stuff you need to mod your Iriver into CF (step by step mod, hardware needed, references, vendors, prices, etc...) and then stick this topic, would not it?
part of that can be found at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide), maybe just a bit too technical ;)
It's exactly what I was looking for!
I'm really dying in wishes to jump over a dead HD iriver so I can perform the mod myself...
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I'm really dying in wishes to jump over a dead HD iriver so I can perform the mod myself...
Maybe Petur can answer this, but my impression was that you can't start out with a crashed HD, because you need to juggle the firmware back and forth to the HD before you can boot the CF.
Or was this restriction only for the H3xx series???
/J
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It would be pretty interesting to collect all the data regarding the necessary stuff you need to mod your Iriver into CF (step by step mod, hardware needed, references, vendors, prices, etc...) and then stick this topic, would not it?
part of that can be found at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide), maybe just a bit too technical ;)
I read that wiki and I just made the waters muddier for me.
I just need someone to patch the latest Rockbox SVN with the REP and I'll be all set!
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I might have a look at getting the REP up to date again but no promise...
and it will be almost the last time anyway because the recording screen will get a serious rewrite soon, so maintaining the REP will be next to impossible. However, it will probably become easier to add some of its stuff ;)
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I'm really dying in wishes to jump over a dead HD iriver so I can perform the mod myself...
Maybe Petur can answer this, but my impression was that you can't start out with a crashed HD, because you need to juggle the firmware back and forth to the HD before you can boot the CF.
Or was this restriction only for the H3xx series???
/J
mmmm.
Well, that's a VERY IMPORTANT POINT then.
Any aclarations will be really helpful.
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I might have a look at getting the REP up to date again but no promise...
and it will be almost the last time anyway because the recording screen will get a serious rewrite soon, so maintaining the REP will be next to impossible. However, it will probably become easier to add some of its stuff ;)
The only reason I stick with the REP is because of the balance meter it has. I have come to rely on the balance meter when recording with microphones. I never liked the histogram... If there was a way to integrate that meter as an option in the SVN, I'd be happy.
Thanks Petur, & +T for any help you can provide.
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Maybe Petur can answer this, but my impression was that you can't start out with a crashed HD, because you need to juggle the firmware back and forth to the HD before you can boot the CF.
Or was this restriction only for the H3xx series???
The point is moot. Rockbox *can* flash the h1x0 itself, but in order to boot rockbox you need a new/modified bootloader.
I have no idea if the h1x0 original firmware supports CF but I guess it doesn't (on h3x0 it doesn't), so you need a HDD at least once to get the new bootloader on it.
On h3x0, you always need the original firmware for bootloader installation. No flashing supported yet.
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Maybe Petur can answer this, but my impression was that you can't start out with a crashed HD, because you need to juggle the firmware back and forth to the HD before you can boot the CF.
Or was this restriction only for the H3xx series???
The point is moot. Rockbox *can* flash the h1x0 itself, but in order to boot rockbox you need a new/modified bootloader.
I have no idea if the h1x0 original firmware supports CF but I guess it doesn't (on h3x0 it doesn't), so you need a HDD at least once to get the new bootloader on it.
On h3x0, you always need the original firmware for bootloader installation. No flashing supported yet.
Petur, can you explain this again in layman terms??? Sorry for being such a dumbass, and T+ for your patience...
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The point is moot. Rockbox *can* flash the h1x0 itself, but in order to boot rockbox you need a new/modified bootloader.
I have no idea if the h1x0 original firmware supports CF but I guess it doesn't (on h3x0 it doesn't), so you need a HDD at least once to get the new bootloader on it.
On h3x0, you always need the original firmware for bootloader installation. No flashing supported yet.
Petur, can you explain this again in layman terms??? Sorry for being such a dumbass, and T+ for your patience...
1) for rockbox to support CF, you need a new bootloader, which is code we put inside the iriver original firmware. So you need to do a firmware upgrade
2) rockbox can do this firmware upgrade itself on h120/h140, on h320/h340 you need the original firmware (which does not support CF)
conclusion:
- for h320/h340 you will *always* need a harddisk if you need to install a new bootloader (=upgrade firmware), although I admit this happens rarely. Upgrading rockbox itself is not a problem
- for h120/h140 you will need a harddrive *once* to get a compatible bootloader, after that any later firmware upgrades could be done from within rockbox itself.
So whatever the case, you need a harddisk attached at least once to get the CF support.
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1) for rockbox to support CF, you need a new bootloader, which is code we put inside the iriver original firmware. So you need to do a firmware upgrade
2) rockbox can do this firmware upgrade itself on h120/h140, on h320/h340 you need the original firmware (which does not support CF)
conclusion:
- for h320/h340 you will *always* need a harddisk if you need to install a new bootloader (=upgrade firmware), although I admit this happens rarely. Upgrading rockbox itself is not a problem
- for h120/h140 you will need a harddrive *once* to get a compatible bootloader, after that any later firmware upgrades could be done from within rockbox itself.
So whatever the case, you need a harddisk attached at least once to get the CF support.
OK, finally it's dawning on me. ;D
The bootloader is not considered a part of the firmware itself, but it needs to piggyback on the firmware when transferring to the unit. On H1xx it can piggyback on Rockbox consecutively, whereas on H3xx if can only piggyback on the commercial Iriver firmware before a CF is recognized. Did I get it right?!
I'd hit you with another T+, but i have to wait 12 hours ;D
/J
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1) for rockbox to support CF, you need a new bootloader, which is code we put inside the iriver original firmware. So you need to do a firmware upgrade
2) rockbox can do this firmware upgrade itself on h120/h140, on h320/h340 you need the original firmware (which does not support CF)
conclusion:
- for h320/h340 you will *always* need a harddisk if you need to install a new bootloader (=upgrade firmware), although I admit this happens rarely. Upgrading rockbox itself is not a problem
- for h120/h140 you will need a harddrive *once* to get a compatible bootloader, after that any later firmware upgrades could be done from within rockbox itself.
So whatever the case, you need a harddisk attached at least once to get the CF support.
OK, finally it's dawning on me. ;D
The bootloader is not considered a part of the firmware itself, but it needs to piggyback on the firmware when transferring to the unit. On H1xx it can piggyback on Rockbox consecutively, whereas on H3xx if can only piggyback on the commercial Iriver firmware before a CF is recognized. Did I get it right?!
I'd hit you with another T+, but i have to wait 12 hours ;D
/J
erm... no ;)
the bootloader is code that is piggybacking on the original firmware. This 'patched' firmware must then be installed by doing a firmware upgrade. The bootloader is responsible for starting rockbox which you install on the disk/CF.
On h1x0, rockbox can do this firmware upgrade for you, on h3x0 we use the original firmware. Either way, you need the original firmware once to upgrade to a firmware version that contains our bootloader.
I hope I explained it clear enough :P
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This mod was so easy even a caveman can do it!
Replaced my clickity clackity hp120 hardrive with a 4gb CF and it worked perfectly from the get-go.
Highly recommended mod that anyone can handle doing.
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I got all the stuff to do this mod recently. I tried putting a Transcend 8 GB 133 speed CF into my iHP-120 a few minutes ago and got an ATA drive error. I was able to boot into the original iRiver firmware, but no luck with my specialized REP, RTC patched version of RockBox. I'll try messing with it again tomorrow.
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I got all the stuff to do this mod recently. I tried putting a Transcend 8 GB 133 speed CF into my iHP-120 a few minutes ago and got an ATA drive error. I was able to boot into the original iRiver firmware, but no luck with my specialized REP, RTC patched version of RockBox. I'll try messing with it again tomorrow.
You'll need to sync with current rockbox svn or apply my CF patch.
See http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide) for bootloader tips and http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8644 (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8644) for my patch if you don't want to sync with svn
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Thanks for the idea to do this. I've been thinking my hard drive wasn't sounding quite right and this mod allowed me to save some serious moolah. Instead of buying a new recorder, I spent less than $70 on the ide part and a 16 gig hard drive. I got the parts today and after upgrading to the latest versions of rockbox and upgrading to the version 7 bootloader. Copied my files back to the compact flash once installed and the iRiver booted right up. I was worried about this, but this was fairly easy.
I was using the old recording enhancement pack before upgrading to the latest version of Rockbox, so I really miss not being able to increase the size of my peakmeters though. Is there anyway that could be added back into rockbox? (I don't know how to compile versions though). Sorry.
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not at the moment.
work is underway to refresh the recording gui, probably bringing bigger fonts.
I had absolutely no time to get the REP building again, and probably not in the future. I'll check how the ui rework is progressing...
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I just got the ide>cf adapter in the mail. I'm planning on getting either a 16 or 32 gig cf card. Are there any 16 or 32 cards out there that I need to avoid?
What cards to people have the most success with in that capacity range?
Thanks in advance.....I'm looking forward to doing this!
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Make sure you get one with a bit of speed, like x133, unless you want to spend a lot of time transferring files...
I heard that transcend has some affordable 32GB x133 cards in their online shop... Not tested yet but another rockbox dev bought one and will soon install it. If it doesn't work, the code will get adapted for it ;)
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My first post!
Anyway, has anyone done the CF swap on an H320 yet? I'd quiet like to replace the 20GB HD with a 32GB (or even 64GB) CF card. I tried reading the rockbox pages, but still don't quiet understand what it is that I need to do.
So, basically, do I simply order a CF adaptor like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/SSD-CF-to-ipod-IDE-Adaptor-as-1-8-toshiba-Hard-Drive_W0QQitemZ360022121216QQihZ023QQcategoryZ41993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem, then put a CF card into the adaptor, then into my H320? What happens afterwards? will the original firmware work with the CF card, and will rockbox be able to boot from the CF card once I copy the .rockbox folder into it? I reinstalled rockbox last week, so my 320 should have the latest boot loader.
I look forward to doing this swap. A flash H320 has me salivating........
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The adapter you showed is the right one.
After that you need to perform a firmware upgrade from within the original firmware to install a new rockbox bootloader. It is a temporary build by me, not an official release, but it worked for everybody so far. You'll find it on the CFMod wiki page (on rockbox.org)
Beware that the original fiirmware does not work with CF cards, so you first need to upgrade the firmware (flash), then mount the CF. After that, upgrading rockbox itself is just copying to CF. But no more original firmware (it gives a CHECK HDD error)
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I ordered the CF-to-IDE-adapter today and will test it in on of my 2 irivers in the next 2 weeks.
Now I need to find a good CF-card 266-300 x speed.
I guess a 8GB card will do its job...makes 4 times 3h23min(2GB limit)=>13h32min az 16bit 44.1kHz.
Thats more than the internal battery can record without being charged in between.
WAVPACK recordings last even longer regarding battery-life.
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Well, I've had the Transcend 8GB 133x CF card and adapter for a while now. All the hardware part is ready. I just can't figure out how to get the bootloader to recognize the CF card. I get the error message when I try to boot it with my version of RockBox. Can someone (hopefully with a lot of patience) give me a step by step guide to make it work? Including links to the right bootloader to use? I'm good with hardware, not so good with software/ firmware. :-[
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I assume you already checked out http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide)?
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I assume you already checked out http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide)?
Yeah.
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well, that page explains it :p
I think you're right, the page is rather techy and the stuff about patching and compiling is irrelevant...
I'll check if somebody can update the bootloader.
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well, that page explains it :p
I think you're right, the page is rather techy and the stuff about patching and compiling is irrelevant...
I'll check if somebody can update the bootloader.
It may as well have been written in Chinese! ???
Yeah, I noticed the "official" bootloader is pretty old, too.
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Has anybody got pics of this mod on an H320?? I'm just a bit worried about having to grind down the jumper if its too big, since the H320 has a slimmer casing than the H340s...and being quiet noob at this sort of thing I'm worried about stuffing up my player.
BTW, is it possible to patch the original firmware to work with the CF card? The main reason I need the original firmware is that I need to be able to view unicode, and I haven't found a nice theme that can display chinese characters yet...
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I have a silly question:
Does this mod eliminate the 10 seconds of hd write time every minute or so?
Also, Petur, if I am reading your rockbox entry correctly, the bootloader that I installed last night (and downloaded last night) will support the cf card without further modification?
So, if my thinking is correct, and it usually isN'T, I can copy my current h120 hard drive to my CF card (.rockbox), shut down, make the hardware modification, and boot directly into a working modded cf iriver h120? Please say YES!
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Has anybody got pics of this mod on an H320?? I'm just a bit worried about having to grind down the jumper if its too big, since the H320 has a slimmer casing than the H340s...and being quiet noob at this sort of thing I'm worried about stuffing up my player.
Just bend it, works fine ;)
BTW, is it possible to patch the original firmware to work with the CF card? The main reason I need the original firmware is that I need to be able to view unicode, and I haven't found a nice theme that can display chinese characters yet...
Nope. But Rockbox supports unicode, you just have to pick a unicode font. I thought unicatcher did...
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With Alex's help, I got my iHP-120 outfitted with the Transcend 8GB CF card. It's pretty cool that it works at all, but my Real Time Clock mod isn't enabled (no biggie) and the balance meter (from the REP build) is missing. Other than that, it's nice.
petur: what's the odds that the balance meter will be (or could be) incorporated in the daily RockBox builds? The sizable metering is cool, but not critical, but I have come to rely on the balance meters from the REP. I'll continue to use the last REP installed on my HD when making critical recordings for now.
Thanks and +T, Alex, for the help.
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I'm still waiting for the recording screen redesign....
I myself have little to no time these days, and things do not look better for the future (time-wise only! little kid arriving in 4 weeks)
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Ordered the CF adapter on ebay over the weekend. Can't wait to try this out, and hopefully it works like a treat!
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Rapide23, I just installed a 4 GB Transcend 133x CF card in my H320 yesterday, and it works as advertised (meaning Rockbox works perfectly, but the original firmware can't read from the card). ;)
As the CFModGuide that petur linked above is a bit cluttered, note that the first thing you'll need to do is download the H300.zip file from that page (which is a modified version of the 1.29J firmware) and upgrade your iRiver with it (do this while you have the hard drive in it - and both the hard drive and CF work with it). I personally transferred the .rockbox files onto the CF card before installing it, but I believe you can copy those files to the CF card after installing it in your iRiver and plugging in the USB cable (while it's off so it goes into bootloader USB mode).
Also, I personally bent over the pins for the jumper, ground down part of the plastic on the adapter, and cut a little notch in the rubber that sits between the battery and the hard drive so everything would fit better (other people may have done as little as bending over the jumper, but I don't want to risk damaging my battery by squeezing everything in - as it's a tight fit; though it's less than a millimeter too thick after also removing the piece of rubber that sits between the bottom of the hard drive and the circuit board). The pictures below show most of this. (I ground the plastic on the adapter at an angle as it sits at an angle in the iRiver, and the little rectangle in the second picture is where I cut a notch out of the rubber.)
Another thing is that opening up an H300 series iRiver isn't as easy as the H100 series. If you haven't already done this, this page (http://www.misticriver.net/forums/h300-series-skinning-themeing/21118-how-remove-h300-back-cover-inskins.html) details how to remove the back cover (the rest of the instructions aren't important). I personally started on the top and bottom (which are easier to pry apart than the sides) then moved to the sides using a knife that's beveled on one side and flat on the other (plus a credit card once there was room for it). I had the beveled side facing the back of the iRiver so it would push the tabs back (so they could be unhooked without breaking them).
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With Alex's help, I got my iHP-120 outfitted with the Transcend 8GB CF card. It's pretty cool that it works at all, but my Real Time Clock mod isn't enabled (no biggie) and the balance meter (from the REP build) is missing. Other than that, it's nice.
petur: what's the odds that the balance meter will be (or could be) incorporated in the daily RockBox builds? The sizable metering is cool, but not critical, but I have come to rely on the balance meters from the REP. I'll continue to use the last REP installed on my HD when making critical recordings for now.
Thanks and +T, Alex, for the help.
Hey no prob glad I could help. I pulled down the latest Rockbox svn last night and I was able to build it so my environment is set up correctly. Just for grins tried to apply the REP patch at the top of the REP thread but if failed miserably. I would really like to just track down the individual patches I use and only apply them. Try and create a new personal REP build. Petur is there a place where 3rd party patches live? I'll start digging myself but I figured I could ask too :) I have to say the new version of rockbox looks way fancy compared to the REP build I was using. It sure would be nice to resurrect this rockbox fork with a newer build.
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With Alex's help, I got my iHP-120 outfitted with the Transcend 8GB CF card. It's pretty cool that it works at all, but my Real Time Clock mod isn't enabled (no biggie) and the balance meter (from the REP build) is missing. Other than that, it's nice.
petur: what's the odds that the balance meter will be (or could be) incorporated in the daily RockBox builds? The sizable metering is cool, but not critical, but I have come to rely on the balance meters from the REP. I'll continue to use the last REP installed on my HD when making critical recordings for now.
Thanks and +T, Alex, for the help.
Hey no prob glad I could help. I pulled down the latest Rockbox svn last night and I was able to build it so my environment is set up correctly. Just for grins tried to apply the REP patch at the top of the REP thread but if failed miserably. I would really like to just track down the individual patches I use and only apply them. Try and create a new personal REP build. Petur is there a place where 3rd party patches live? I'll start digging myself but I figured I could ask too :) I have to say the new version of rockbox looks way fancy compared to the REP build I was using. It sure would be nice to resurrect this rockbox fork with a newer build.
Man, that would be cool, Alex. Is your iRiver modded with the Real Time Clock too? I like that feature, but could live without it, if I could just get the balance meters back!
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any chance you can upload that build somewhere so people who are not as proficient with building their own builds can get this done? It would be much appreciated.
Or do you absolutely HAVE to compile that stuff yourself?
EDIT: NM found the answers in the wiki. It is not very easy to read but finally found what I needed.
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Rapide23, I just installed a 4 GB Transcend 133x CF card in my H320 yesterday, and it works as advertised (meaning Rockbox works perfectly, but the original firmware can't read from the card). ;)
As the CFModGuide that petur linked above is a bit cluttered, note that the first thing you'll need to do is download the H300.zip file from that page (which is a modified version of the 1.29J firmware) and upgrade your iRiver with it (do this while you have the hard drive in it - and both the hard drive and CF work with it). I personally transferred the .rockbox files onto the CF card before installing it, but I believe you can copy those files to the CF card after installing it in your iRiver and plugging in the USB cable (while it's off so it goes into bootloader USB mode).
Also, I personally bent over the pins for the jumper, ground down part of the plastic on the adapter, and cut a little notch in the rubber that sits between the battery and the hard drive so everything would fit better (other people may have done as little as bending over the jumper, but I don't want to risk damaging my battery by squeezing everything in - as it's a tight fit; though it's less than a millimeter too thick after also removing the piece of rubber that sits between the bottom of the hard drive and the circuit board). The pictures below show most of this. (I ground the plastic on the adapter at an angle as it sits at an angle in the iRiver, and the little rectangle in the second picture is where I cut a notch out of the rubber.)
Another thing is that opening up an H300 series iRiver isn't as easy as the H100 series. If you haven't already done this, this page (http://www.misticriver.net/forums/h300-series-skinning-themeing/21118-how-remove-h300-back-cover-inskins.html) details how to remove the back cover (the rest of the instructions aren't important). I personally started on the top and bottom (which are easier to pry apart than the sides) then moved to the sides using a knife that's beveled on one side and flat on the other (plus a credit card once there was room for it). I had the beveled side facing the back of the iRiver so it would push the tabs back (so they could be unhooked without breaking them).
I've opened up my H320 to replace the battery already, so I'm not worried about opening up my player.
Which bootloader are you using? I thought that the latest version of rockbox already has CF support (according to the CFmod Guide. I am using version r17153-080418)...
Oh, and I'm using a 1GB Sandisk Ultra II CF card, which is in FAT32 format and already has the rockbox files and some music copied onto it from my current H320 HD.
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Petur is there a place where 3rd party patches live? I'll start digging myself but I figured I could ask too :) I have to say the new version of rockbox looks way fancy compared to the REP build I was using. It sure would be nice to resurrect this rockbox fork with a newer build.
Not that I know of. I really am short of time now, maybe I can have a look next week at the earliest :(
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Which bootloader are you using? I thought that the latest version of rockbox already has CF support (according to the CFmod Guide. I am using version r17153-080418)...
Oh, and I'm using a 1GB Sandisk Ultra II CF card, which is in FAT32 format and already has the rockbox files and some music copied onto it from my current H320 HD.
I'm using the bootloader that petur modified.
My understanding (and experience) is that while the latest version of Rockbox does support CF cards, depending on what CompactFlash card you have (as AlexG noticed at the beginning of this thread, as well as others on the Rockbox forums (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=search2;params=c2VhcmNofCd8Y2Z8InxhZHZhbmNlZHwnfDF8InxtYXRjaF9tb2RlfCd8c21hcnR8InxicmR8J3wyOHwifHNob3dfY29tcGxldGV8J3x8InxzdWJqZWN0X29ubHl8J3x8Inxzb3J0X2RpcnwnfGRlc2N8Inxzb3J0fCd8cmVsZXZhbmNl)) you may also need a recent (modified) bootloader. If you just load the latest version of Rockbox on an H300 iRiver as per the instructions in the manual (http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-h300/rockbox-buildch2.html) then your bootloader will be version 5 (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=IriverBoot). (Also see this thread (http://www.misticriver.net/forums/rockbox-h3xx-series/57873-cf-h320.html).) I suspect that if you build the bootloader yourself from the source (http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml) (as a binary is not included in the precompiled SVN release) then that may work, but as petur's already tested a modified bootloader with his H320 you don't need to take much of a risk (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=IriverBoot). (See the threads in the link I gave to the Rockbox forums for more detail.)
The Sandisk Ultra II CF cards may work with the v5 bootloader, though (my Transcend 133x does not), as a number of issues seem to be related to old cards (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MiniCF) and new cards (such as Transcend's 133x and 266x, and the A-Data Turbo 266x), but not midrange cards (such as the A-Data speedy or the RiDATA 150x).
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any chance you can upload that build somewhere so people who are not as proficient with building their own builds can get this done? It would be much appreciated.
Or do you absolutely HAVE to compile that stuff yourself?
EDIT: NM found the answers in the wiki. It is not very easy to read but finally found what I needed.
When I get a working build of course I'll post it. I was hand merging the Histogram patch the other day but I blew it all away by accident so I have to start over again. >:( I'm hoping to have something done in the next week or two depending on my free time.
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any chance you can upload that build somewhere so people who are not as proficient with building their own builds can get this done? It would be much appreciated.
Or do you absolutely HAVE to compile that stuff yourself?
EDIT: NM found the answers in the wiki. It is not very easy to read but finally found what I needed.
When I get a working build of course I'll post it. I was hand merging the Histogram patch the other day but I blew it all away by accident so I have to start over again. >:( I'm hoping to have something done in the next week or two depending on my free time.
I know nothing about programing, but I do remember that when Mmmm was building the REP, he got the code for some of the features from other people. Maybe there is a balance meter patch or a histogram patch ??? Not that I'd know what to do with them if they existed... :-[
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I know nothing about programing, but I do remember that when Mmmm was building the REP, he got the code for some of the features from other people. Maybe there is a balance meter patch or a histogram patch ??? Not that I'd know what to do with them if they existed... :-[
indeed, the REP is nothing more than a collection of different patches. Alas the person who wrote most of them hasn't been along for over a year, no idea what happened to him...
The rockbox patch tracker is located here (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=4)
Edit: In fact, the histogram/balance/... patch is right here (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5021?histring=balance)
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I know nothing about programing, but I do remember that when Mmmm was building the REP, he got the code for some of the features from other people. Maybe there is a balance meter patch or a histogram patch ??? Not that I'd know what to do with them if they existed... :-[
indeed, the REP is nothing more than a collection of different patches. Alas the person who wrote most of them hasn't been along for over a year, no idea what happened to him...
The rockbox patch tracker is located here (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=4)
Edit: In fact, the histogram/balance/... patch is right here (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5021?histring=balance)
Thank you petur! +T
Alex! Is that what you need? ;D
I have to say that the balance meter saved me again, last night at Wilco. I was close to the stage but very far right. The balance meter helped me center the audio image.
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After reading this whole thread I am thinking that there should be no problem modifying the 115. Right? :hmmm:
I just had my hardrive freeze up last night. It would not shut off. It burned out the batterie completely and after recharging it booted up again. So I thinks its time to modify.
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Yeah! Got the adapter today, and now my H320 has become a H301!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I couldn't be happier! Didn't even need to use the special bootloader that was posted on here earlier. Had some freezing and file transfer issues at the start, but its completely fine now!
I think I'm ready to go out and get a 32GB CF card. Which ones work? I'm currently using a Sandisk Ultra 1GB.
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I think I'm ready to go out and get a 32GB CF card. Which ones work? I'm currently using a Sandisk Ultra 1GB.
They should all work, but most require the modified bootloader... see the CFMod wiki page on rockbox.org
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I know nothing about programing, but I do remember that when Mmmm was building the REP, he got the code for some of the features from other people. Maybe there is a balance meter patch or a histogram patch ??? Not that I'd know what to do with them if they existed... :-[
indeed, the REP is nothing more than a collection of different patches. Alas the person who wrote most of them hasn't been along for over a year, no idea what happened to him...
The rockbox patch tracker is located here (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=4)
Edit: In fact, the histogram/balance/... patch is right here (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5021?histring=balance)
Thank you petur! +T
Alex! Is that what you need? ;D
I have to say that the balance meter saved me again, last night at Wilco. I was close to the stage but very far right. The balance meter helped me center the audio image.
Yeah that is the patch that I was playing with earlier but blew away my work. I'll try and give it a go this week again and see what happens.
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I think I'm ready to go out and get a 32GB CF card. Which ones work? I'm currently using a Sandisk Ultra 1GB.
They should all work, but most require the modified bootloader... see the CFMod wiki page on rockbox.org
I don't really understand the stuff in the wiki though....
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Yeah, it's not exactly user friendly...
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Yes, we need to release new 'official' bootloaders that support CF. Until then, this is what we have on offer.
There is a 'ready to use' bootloader for H3x0 on that wiki page, and a bit of instructions for h1x0
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I can't help thinking CF modding is the cheapest way to the best sounding flash player ever.
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I just succeeded doing the CF-mod on my rockboxed iHP-120! ;D
What did I do on my iHP-120:
(0. Order the CF-to-IDE-adapter => ebay)
1. install the latest H120 rockbox-build from today
2. download the necessary "7pre4"-bootloader for the H120 here:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/IriverFlashing?rev=1;filename=bootloader_h120_7pre4.zip
3. copy the "7pre4"-bootloader to your H120´s harddisk(root directory)
4. FLASHING:
First Initialize your player as follows: (Stop audio-playback).
- Set "Show Files" to "All" in "General Settings"
- Enter the File Browser by choosing "Files" in the Rockbox menu
- Navigate to "bootloader.iriver"
- Mark "bootloader.iriver" and press(long) joystick - then select "Open with..."
- From the list of plugins, select "iriver_flash" and execute.
- If all went smoothly a confirmation message should be displayed
- Press PLAY-button (right side TOP-button) to confirm, the firmware flashing-process starts,
- "Success"-message and the player will return to the file browser
5. Copy the complete rockbox directory to your PC
6. Replace the HDD using the CF-to-IDE Adapter mentioned in this thread on page 1.
7. Bend down the adpater´s jumper, otherwise you´ll run into issues later on ;)
8. Copy the folder from your PC back to the CF-card
9. Fix the 8 torx screws and you are DONE!
I use a SANDISK 8GB extreme III CF-card, which has ONLY 133x speed(about 20MB/s read and write).
No errors on boot-screen.
"System/Rockbox-Info" shows 7.xx GB as supposed to.
Here a pic of my "challenge":
My 8GB CF card attached to the ebay-Honkong-"CF-to-IDE adapter" :): You can see how I needed to bend down the blue jumper.
(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/5083/cfmodh120007as7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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7. Bend down the adpater´s jumper, otherwise you´ll run into issues later on ;)
Is the jumper still study on the pins after bending them down? I have an adapter on the way and was wondering if it would just be safer to solder the pins together.
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I bent mine down, too. It works fine. Soldering it wouldn't be that hard either.
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info-update:
i did a testrecording(16bit 44.1kHz) using internal mics and internal battery and the results are:
disc-full message after 12h48min resulting in 3 files a 3h22min and 1 file a 2h42min.
=>pressing STOP brought me back to the menue in rockbox.
conclusion:
-considerably extended battery life=>battery still at 28% after 12h48min recording
-internal mics: NO disturbing write-to-disk-sounds of the old 1,8" HDD anymore every 2-3min when the buffer gets written to the CF-card
-fast and smooth navigation through the rockbox menue compared to using a HDD
-no vibrations anymore
-using my 8GB 133x speed sandisk extreme III card, the transfer of a 2GB WAV file(3h22min recording) takes exactly 4min 00 seconds using the USB 2.0 cable.
Thats not bad at all....I thought 133x cards would take ages for transferring HAHA.
Overall I´don´t regret having taken this step! It only got better ;D!
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Nice instructions Arni, worked like a charm :)
Last week my 'new' iHP-120 arrived, with what I suspect is a dodgy hard drive (nice bunch of clicking, trouble copying the rockbox folder over, recording (00000002) errors, etc - formatting made it more stable, but still the 00000002 error). I didn't bother sending it back, as I was planning to do the CF mod. My adapter arrived yesterday, chucked in a cheapie Adata 4gb "speedy" card, and away she goes. Boots up a lot faster, and left it recording for over 3hrs. Works great, and not much battery drain. Will use it at a show next month.
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Is there any difference in sound quality?
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Is there any difference in sound quality?
No, why should the soundquality be different?
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I personally find my recordings to have less noise. So yes, better sound quality :)
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Is there any difference in sound quality?
yes. the hard drive no longer rattles.
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Can anyone tell me how to verify the speed of a CF card? I just bought a 280X 16gb card and it seems slower than I expected.
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Can anyone tell me how to verify the speed of a CF card? I just bought a 280X 16gb card and it seems slower than I expected.
Mine is a sandisk 8GB extreme III CF-card and it´s supposed transferrate is at 20MB/s(133 x speed) read/write.
My tests showed an actual transferrate of 8MB/s=>a 3h22min WAV recording(2GB limit) takes exactly 4minutes transfer-time with USB 2.0.
I´m happy as 4min for 3h22min WAV is not bad at all.
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make sure the USB port you used isn't 1.1 - some gear (like my dell LCD) have build-in usb hubs that can make you cry: located conveniently on the edge of your screen but awfully slow
Also, if it is USB2, check there aren't too many devices on the hub.
Read reviews on the net about the card and its speed (even better: do that before buying)
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My CF-modded H120 dropped out of my jacket while going up the stairs to my appartment and hit the floor after a free fall of more than 3 meters( 10 feet)!!!
All is working fine! ;D
I thought it was its last journey when i heard the crashing sound on the stone-floor.
If I had a 1/8" HDD inside and not a CF-card, things would look different now....
:)
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Ordered a 2200mha battery and 32GB Ridata 233X CF card for my H300.
Can't wait to have it all up and running next week!
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Used mine for the first time last night. Works great, Rockbox (safety clip) rules. I just hit record, put hold on and walked in. Didn't bother checking levels or anything. Was also running my R-09.... stealthing with 2 recorders is a bit tricky!
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Gonna perform the mod in a few weeks, just ordered the adapters.
Is there any official (or unofficial) list of the CF cards that are supported by the 7pre4 patch?
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Is there any official (or unofficial) list of the CF cards that are supported by the 7pre4 patch?
All cards should work. I advise against slow ones, get 133x or faster for acceptable transfer speeds
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Is there any official (or unofficial) list of the CF cards that are supported by the 7pre4 patch?
All cards should work. I advise against slow ones, get 133x or faster for acceptable transfer speeds
info: Transfertime for 2GB(3h23min WAV 16bit 44.1kHz) from my Sandisk Extreme III 8GB x133 CF-card is exactly 4min using USB 2.0.
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Another happy H332 owner! ;D
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Another happy H332 owner! ;D
Which 32gb card did you use? A-Data or Transcend?
edit: Nevermind (Ridata)
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Hmm, I think a 16GB card is going to do me fine. I'm sure they function and work just the same but the bigger cards just make me nervous. Probably the same reason I won't be buying a one terabyte drive anytime soon.
Still, very cool that people are modding to 32GB cards...much respect.
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Hmm, I think a 16GB card is going to do me fine. I'm sure they function and work just the same but the bigger cards just make me nervous. Probably the same reason I won't be buying a one terabyte drive anytime soon.
Still, very cool that people are modding to 32GB cards...much respect.
You can record 12h48min on a 8GB CF card in 16bit 44.1kHz(WAV) and the internal battery will still show more than 30% power.
;)
That´s why 8GB are MORE than sufficient for me using my H120 as a recorder only.
I never taped more than 4-6 hours a day at festivals ...in case you know a good looking masseuse...longer sessions won´t be an issue HAHA.
recording-time: with one battery-charge using a CF-modded iriver iHP-120/H140
2GB 3h 23min
4GB 6h 46 min
8GB 12h48min
16GB more than 25h
32GB more than 50h
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Picked up an ihp100(thanks run,run,run) and a 4gb adata speedy cf card and ide->cf adapter(thanks darktrain)
I started by up trying to upload the7pre4 bootloader to the ihp100. I got a checksum error. I decided to go ahead and try the mod without updating the bootloader.
Installed the adapter/cf card and everything worked like a charm.
Thanks to AlexG, Petur, Arni
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Hi, another rookie speaking ;D
I did the mod on my ihp120 with a 2gb sandisk succesfully, but then i wanted more: bought a transcend 16gb 133x did the same (used 7pre4 bootloader) but got only ata-80 error... as english isnt my own language, i tried to follow the hints on the rb-site but im not sure if i did well... there are some patches, but im not sure which and how to install...
so, is there a way to get my 16gb-card running?
Thanks in Advance,
pietrocorvo
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I did the mod on my ihp120 with a 2gb sandisk succesfully, but then i wanted more: bought a transcend 16gb 133x did the same (used 7pre4 bootloader) but got only ata-80 error... as english isnt my own language, i tried to follow the hints on the rb-site but im not sure if i did well... there are some patches, but im not sure which and how to install...
so, is there a way to get my 16gb-card running?
As far as I know, you need to do the bootloader install as mentioned on the CFMod wiki page, and then install the latest build.
We hope to have officially released bootloaders for h1x0 and h3x0 soon as part of our plan to have an official 3.0 release. No timeframe given. I may have a look into building a h1x0 bootloader and attaching it to that wiki page just like I did for the h3x0...
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Just Modded a broken HDD unit I had wandering around with a 4GB trascend 120x CF card and it's working like a charm.
Just in time for festival time!
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I just did one of my h120s successfully. 4 gig Adata speedy card.
Recorded 1hr 30min, transferred to my DAW now I'm listening to some 70s Miles Davis .wav files off of it.
Transfer speed was fine for me. Better than real time DAT transfer, eh?
Feeling good and basking in the warm glow of tampering with things :P
Thanks to all those who blazed the trail!!
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I'd need your help guys.
Anyone has tried a 16 CF card, bought on ebay?
I've looking many brands (Speedy Adata, Trascend, OEM brands) but don't know which one to pick.
SO if someone has installed a 16CF card, any info would be appreciatted.
Thanks,
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sure...
AData Speedy isn't really that speedy, and I've heard some good things about the transcend cards.... My AData card was bought via ebay (but the turbo or whatever type, not the speedy). The transcend 32GB seems to be quite good for its price
good luck ;)
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sure...
AData Speedy isn't really that speedy, and I've heard some good things about the transcend cards.... My AData card was bought via ebay (but the turbo or whatever type, not the speedy). The transcend 32GB seems to be quite good for its price
good luck ;)
I've got a transcend 4GB already installed in my second iriver. So I'm gonna get a 16GB CF Transcend card. Don't really think that I'm gonna record that long.
Thanks for the tip.
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Is the card speed an issue for the transfer times only? Recording a 16/44.1k wave is going to only need so much speed and apparently the slow 'speedy' is doing that well enough.
I had my freshly modded h120 out on Saturday to record some steel drum samples and various ambient sounds. It rode around in my backpack on my bicycle all day and nothing came loose so that was a good durability test.
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Is the card speed an issue for the transfer times only? Recording a 16/44.1k wave is going to only need so much speed and apparently the slow 'speedy' is doing that well enough.
I had my freshly modded h120 out on Saturday to record some steel drum samples and various ambient sounds. It rode around in my backpack on my bicycle all day and nothing came loose so that was a good durability test.
Well, Card speed is an issue for read and write to CF. Don't know the MB/Seg of the buffer on the iriver, assuming that every 3 minutes is writing to the CF. Anyway, I was told that any CF from 120x "in crescendo" should work fine.
And of course, a better speed for read will give short transfer time to HDD
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There have not been any tests to see what is the slowest card that can handle recording. But as I'm a busy man and my recordings always go over 1GB, I rather like having faster transfer times :D
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Thanks for all the info... looks interesting.
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jonbo, glad you got your 50 posts. :P
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I'd need your help guys.
Anyone has tried a 16 CF card, bought on ebay?
I've looking many brands (Speedy Adata, Trascend, OEM brands) but don't know which one to pick.
SO if someone has installed a 16CF card, any info would be appreciatted.
Thanks,
As i wrote a few posts before, i did not suceed with the transcend 133x 16gb although i followed the instructions exactly (so i took a sandisk 8gb; just copied rb from the 16gb to the 8gb - works fine - so i think this must be a special problem with this card, although it works fine in the pc or the camera)... anyone other experiences?
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As i wrote a few posts before, i did not suceed with the transcend 133x 16gb although i followed the instructions exactly (so i took a sandisk 8gb; just copied rb from the 16gb to the 8gb - works fine - so i think this must be a special problem with this card, although it works fine in the pc or the camera)... anyone other experiences?
If you get an ata-80 error I assume you have the wrong bootloader - yes I know it's a bit of a trick at the moment....
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yes, ata-80 error...
I used the 7pre4 bootloader from the link that Arni99 has mentioned in his instruction in this thread (on page 9)
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/IriverFlashing?rev=1;filename=bootloader_h120_7pre4.zip
isn't that the right one? As i wrote, the same worked on my sandisk-card ???
is there another option?
thanks in advance
pc
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Nope... too old
I just checked and it seems there is no newer bootloader for h1x0, I'll have to see if somebody can put one online to make this process a bit easier
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I'd need your help guys.
Anyone has tried a 16 CF card, bought on ebay?
I've looking many brands (Speedy Adata, Trascend, OEM brands) but don't know which one to pick.
SO if someone has installed a 16CF card, any info would be appreciatted.
Thanks,
Yes, I got the 280x OEM 16g card from this guy: http://myworld.ebay.com/fastmemoryman
Fired up the first time and works great. Cheapest I have been able to find.
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Yes, I got the 280x OEM 16g card from this guy: http://myworld.ebay.com/fastmemoryman
Fired up the first time and works great. Cheapest I have been able to find.
Who makes the cards he is selling?
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For those considering which CF card to buy...
I started out looking for Sandisk cards (as they have a good reputation) on eBay, but then I noticed that all the sellers who have good prices (compared to retail stores) and do show actual images of what they're selling (not just stock photos) are simply selling counterfeit CF cards (http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&q=sandisk+counterfeit&start=0&sa=N) - so then I decided that it would be better to buy a cheap card (the Transcend 133x) from a reputable store (newegg.com). Also, I decided to go with only 133x (as opposed to Transcend's 266x line) because in my testing I've noticed that my iRiver H320 is limited to transferring data at about 11-12 MB/s when either reading from or writing to it (that appeared to be processor limited as the hard drive is specified (http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/storage/english/spec/hdd/mk2004.htm) to transfer data at up to 31 MB/s, and because most hard drives don't have a flat transfer rate [see just about any review that includes sequential transfer rates at storagereview.com (http://www.storagereview.com/)]), and the Transcend 133x has been tested (http://www.hjreggel.net/cardspeed/cs_udmacf.html) to read/write at 34 and 15 MB/s - faster than I am able to transfer data to/from my iRiver's hard drive.
(In testing by copying large files from my iRiver to my PC, I get 10.89 MB/s with the hard drive for 5 GB of data [7m 50s], and 11.76 MB/s with the flash card for 1.84 GB of data [2m 41s]. I haven't done any thorough write tests with the CF card in my iRiver, but it appeared to be getting about 9 MB/s while looking at Task Manager - which admittedly is lower than the 11-12 MB/s I would get while writing to the hard drive. I don't use my iRiver to transfer files between computers so write speed isn't that important, though one interesting thing I have noticed is that while recording with the hard drive it would spend about 6 seconds writing the buffered data to the hard drive [after 2m 28s recording at 16-bit, 44.1KHz, stereo], but with the CompactFlash card it would spend 21 seconds(!) writing data to the card for some odd reason... [it makes less noise on the recording (using an external analog input) when using the CF card, but still...])
Also, as mentioned on the CFModGuide (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide), if anyone's interested in a different CF adapter which should fit better (as both connectors are on the edges of this adapter rather than one on the top and one on the edge; though it costs more) there's the PA-CF18T (http://www.ably.com.tw/pdt/viewpdt.asp?absp=40&cat=CHASSIS_PARTS). The Rockbox page only lists the UK seller for this adapter, but there's also this company (http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-CF18T_m.html) which sells it in the US for $24 (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17213.msg127842#msg127842) (though you have to contact them as you can't buy it from their site). Though as it appears that you guys are doing fine with the cheap adapter (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10886~r.95998535) and the H100 iRivers, and as that cheap adapter does fit the H300 series with modification, this is probably only for those of you who want the adapter to fit right in the H320 without having to modify it.
GrandMasterMark, have you seen this page (http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080711054433AAKkhV6)? I haven't looked at that seller's feedback, but considering how low his feedback score is and how low the price is on the cards he's selling (compare to this 8 GB 280x (http://www.amazon.com/Hoodman-280x-Speed-CompactFlash-Memory/dp/B000PHQTIA) professional CF card for $244 from amazon.com) it wouldn't be surprising to find out that your card is either/both not the capacity/speed that you were sold...
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Thanks for these interesting observations!
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in a similiar boat as this person.
I upgraded the CF card in my H320 to an 8gig last night (from a 4gig), and I get the ata-80 error.
I'll check out the RB wiki page that Petur mentioned, hopefully it's something with the bootloader (or pressing some key down then power up the machine).
For now I've got the old CF card in there and it boots up to Rockbox with no problems (but booting up to the original iRiver FW says "check HDD"...)
Trying to find info on this is almost like finding a needle in a hay stack. I mean I work on computers for a living and do hardware upgrades all the time (including motherboard replacements on Thinkpad laptops), but to upgrade the drive/card in your iRiver isn't exactly straight forward...... ::)
I did the mod on my ihp120 with a 2gb sandisk succesfully, but then i wanted more: bought a transcend 16gb 133x did the same (used 7pre4 bootloader) but got only ata-80 error... as english isnt my own language, i tried to follow the hints on the rb-site but im not sure if i did well... there are some patches, but im not sure which and how to install...
so, is there a way to get my 16gb-card running?
Thanks in Advance,
pietrocorvo
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I upgraded the CF card in my H320 to an 8gig last night (from a 4gig), and I get the ata-80 error.
I'll check out the RB wiki page that Petur mentioned, hopefully it's something with the bootloader (or pressing some key down then power up the machine).
Are you already using the modified bootloader or still the official one?
Trying to find info on this is almost like finding a needle in a hay stack. I mean I work on computers for a living and do hardware upgrades all the time (including motherboard replacements on Thinkpad laptops), but to upgrade the drive/card in your iRiver isn't exactly straight forward...... ::)
That's because not many are doing this, so we're the only ones generating the information on the net
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I wonder if this will work with the CF mod? I'm going to have to find some time to try it.
He has a build for the RTC mod too!
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2513.new;topicseen#new
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It has the Rockbox Bootloader, ver 5 installed. Attached is a screendump if this info is helpful
Are you already using the modified bootloader or still the official one?
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It has the Rockbox Bootloader, ver 5 installed. Attached is a screendump if this info is helpful
Are you already using the modified bootloader or still the official one?
That's your problem then.... on h300, you need to flash the bootloader that is in the CFMod wiki page. Aftre that, you can use any recent rockbox version
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I wonder if this will work with the CF mod? I'm going to have to find some time to try it.
He has a build for the RTC mod too!
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2513.new;topicseen#new
If it is based on recent rockbox code, it should.
I'm finally doing some effort to get the histogram stuff of the REP in the official build ;)
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I wonder if this will work with the CF mod? I'm going to have to find some time to try it.
He has a build for the RTC mod too!
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2513.new;topicseen#new
If it is based on recent rockbox code, it should.
I'm finally doing some effort to get the histogram stuff of the REP in the official build ;)
...and the balance meter too??? :realhappy:
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I've tried that file. It was a .zip file on that link that extracts out to a H300.hex file with a date code of 2-28-2008 (correct?)
what would be the process of steps if you don't mind me asking?
Something like this: ?
1) do the install of new CF card (or hard drive)
2) power up iRiver (won't boot at this point), plug in USB cable so I can see the iRiver in Windows
3) copy over the h300.hex file to root of CF card
4) reboot
5) install rockbox using the install utility
6) reboot and your done
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That's your problem then.... on h300, you need to flash the bootloader that is in the CFMod wiki page. Aftre that, you can use any recent rockbox version
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I wonder if this will work with the CF mod? I'm going to have to find some time to try it.
He has a build for the RTC mod too!
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2513.new;topicseen#new
I had some time to try this today. One of the versions enables RTC and is synced with the REP.
I loaded it onto one of my iHP-1x0 and it looks great!
I thought I was going to be able to run RockBox with the CF mod too, but
I still can not get it to work with my Transcend 8GB card...
I updated the boot loader to the newest version... As far as I can tell, it's supposed to work but nada...
I tried booting from RAM, ROM and the CF card. It kind of worked once, when I got the RockBox logo to show on the screen, but I couldn't get past the logo. None of the buttons worked...
When I replace the hard drive, everything works as it should.
I know I'm getting close...
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what's the error message say when you boot up with that CF card?
FWIW - the 8gig Cf card I was trying to get working was a Lexar 133x, thought I'd try my luck on a Transcend 16gig card next....
I thought I was going to be able to run RockBox with the CF mod too, but
I still can not get it to work with my Transcend 8GB card...
I updated the boot loader to the newest version... As far as I can tell, it's supposed to work but nada...
I tried booting from RAM, ROM and the CF card. It kind of worked once, when I got the RockBox logo to show on the screen, but I couldn't get past the logo. None of the buttons worked...
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I've tried that file. It was a .zip file on that link that extracts out to a H300.hex file with a date code of 2-28-2008 (correct?)
correct
what would be the process of steps if you don't mind me asking?
Something like this: ?
1) do the install of new CF card (or hard drive)
2) power up iRiver (won't boot at this point), plug in USB cable so I can see the iRiver in Windows
3) copy over the h300.hex file to root of CF card
4) reboot
5) install rockbox using the install utility
6) reboot and your done
wrong.
You need to have a harddisk installed, copy the h300.hex file to it and start the original iriver firmware. There you select 'upgrade firmware'
Once that is done, you can proceed to install the CF card and copy rockbox on it.
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where there goes that then, as I don't have a hard drive for my H320. It came already modded with a CF card.
Anyone in the market for a (never used) 8gig and 16gig CF card(s)?
:)
Curious why this can't be done on a working/installed/functioning/bootable CF card though?
what would be the process of steps if you don't mind me asking?
Something like this: ?
1) do the install of new CF card (or hard drive)
2) power up iRiver (won't boot at this point), plug in USB cable so I can see the iRiver in Windows
3) copy over the h300.hex file to root of CF card
4) reboot
5) install rockbox using the install utility
6) reboot and your done
wrong.
You need to have a harddisk installed, copy the h300.hex file to it and start the original iriver firmware. There you select 'upgrade firmware. Once that is done, you can proceed to install the CF card and copy rockbox on it.
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where there goes that then, as I don't have a hard drive for my H320. It came already modded with a CF card.
Anyone in the market for a (never used) 8gig and 16gig CF card(s)?
:)
Curious why this can't be done on a working/installed/functioning/bootable CF card though?
what would be the process of steps if you don't mind me asking?
Something like this: ?
1) do the install of new CF card (or hard drive)
2) power up iRiver (won't boot at this point), plug in USB cable so I can see the iRiver in Windows
3) copy over the h300.hex file to root of CF card
4) reboot
5) install rockbox using the install utility
6) reboot and your done
wrong.
You need to have a harddisk installed, copy the h300.hex file to it and start the original iriver firmware. There you select 'upgrade firmware. Once that is done, you can proceed to install the CF card and copy rockbox on it.
That's what I did on my H120:
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,95239.msg1388440.html#msg1388440
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I've tried that file. It was a .zip file on that link that extracts out to a H300.hex file with a date code of 2-28-2008 (correct?)
correct
what would be the process of steps if you don't mind me asking?
Something like this: ?
1) do the install of new CF card (or hard drive)
2) power up iRiver (won't boot at this point), plug in USB cable so I can see the iRiver in Windows
3) copy over the h300.hex file to root of CF card
4) reboot
5) install rockbox using the install utility
6) reboot and your done
wrong.
You need to have a harddisk installed, copy the h300.hex file to it and start the original iriver firmware. There you select 'upgrade firmware'
Once that is done, you can proceed to install the CF card and copy rockbox on it.
Petur:
I can't find the Upgrade Firmware option anywhere in the menu.
I know that I'm looking for GENERAL > UPGRADE FIRMWARE (info from the manual), but I don't have that option on either of my iHP-1x0's...
FWIW, for some reason my iRiver dual boots between an old version of Rockbox and the latest version that was synced with the REP... Somehow I don't have the original iRiver software on it... ???
I can get the CF card to boot, to a Rockbox screen that flashes, but then it goes to a black white screen and freezes...
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Whaa...hoo! Success! :realhappy:
I just had to load the firmware into ROM...
Question, is it normal for the red light (drive activity light) to be ON a lot when using the CF card? Mine is on almost constantly, even when not recording.
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yeah I had seen this link before. Time for a re-visit and wouldn't you know it. It worked, I upgraded my H320 from a 4gig CF card to a 16gig CF card !!
So you can flash the boot loader from within Rockbox, and working from off a CF card.... :P
If I could give +t's around, I certainly would, so you all will just have to pretend you got 'em!
:)
Thanks all, and especially for Petur on the RB project in itself !!
That's what I did on my H120:
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,95239.msg1388440.html#msg1388440
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Two successful conversions today!
Sometimes I do miss the T's...
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My post was in response to the h3x0. Rockbox doesn't support flashing on h3x0 so you need the original firmware for that, which won't work with CF (afaik)
On h1x0 there is a much more advanced bootloader that even allows rockbox to be stored in flash, which is what chuck seems to have. And on h1x0, you can flash new firmwares from within rockbox itself.
But anyway, congrats on the conversions ;)
(I hadn't even seen the tickets were gone.... sad thing....)
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I have an extra Compact Flash to 1.8" IDE adaptor. It's new, still sealed in the original packaging. It looks like the one Alex has pictured in the first post on this thread. If you want it, let me know. Ideally, I'd like to trade for another CF card (4 - 8 GB) + $, but I'm certainly open to any offer. I bought three at one time and used the first one to do the mod to my iHP-120 described in this thread. I'm keeping the second so I can mod my iHP-140. Anyway, if you want the third one, PM me. I can provide a pic if needed. - Chuck
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ok, took a look (again) at the pics in the very first post in this thread. I'd be interested in your adapter only if this would work in a JB3 (for my next mod attempt). >:D
Seems to me the HD in the iRiver's is smaller/thinner than the HD in the JB3's. But do they utilize the same (40 pin) connector??
Time to go through this entire thread (again), ugh
edit:
as Sunjan posted on page 4 of this thread
"Note that the JB3 IDE connector is for 2,5" drives, so you can't use the same adapter as for the Iriver 1,8" drive"
so in other words, I have no use for your extra adapter Chuck
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I have an extra Compact Flash to 1.8" IDE adaptor. It's new, still sealed in the original packaging. It looks like the one Alex has pictured in the first post on this thread. If you want it, let me know. Ideally, I'd like to trade for another CF card (4 - 8 GB) + $, but I'm certainly open to any offer.
Trade a CF adapter for a 4-8GB CF card + $? Did you pay too much for your adapter then?
Anyway, I already have a spare one ;)
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I think he meant:
I'll trade this adapter + some $$ for your 4(or8) gig CF card. So meaning the adapter is far less in price than most CF card's currently on the market. :P
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I think he meant:
I'll trade this adapter + some $$ for your 4(or8) gig CF card. So meaning the adapter is far less in price than most CF card's currently on the market. :P
Yeah, that's right. The adaptors were less that $10 each. They came from China, so they take a while to arrive. I figured I could save someone that wait time.
No trade offers yet.
One cash offer...
I'd prefer a trade.
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Two successful conversions today!
Sometimes I do miss the T's...
Just wanted to report about my results too.
I basically followed Arni99's guide above: http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,95239.msg1388440.html#msg1388440
Too much tech speak on the Rockbox page :-P
For the fun of it, I had three CF cards to play around with:
16GB Adata Speedy = success
2GB Lexar 133x = success
2GB Lexar 80x = "no partition found".
I didn't bother troubleshooting further, since the Lexar 80x series has been reported to be incompatible:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide#Incompatibility_Chart
So I guess I'll be running a H116 from now on ;D
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Success!
Finally!
Man that was a bit of a headache, but I'm glad it's working now.
First I had trouble updating the bootloader. Problem: I wasn't pressing the play button, I was pushing the scroll button in.
So I got that installed and then what? I pop in an 8gb lexar and ata -80 error.
Shit.
Then I pop in an 8gb PQI. Success. Rockbox loads!
I connect it to the the computer.... and nothing. It won't mount. Crap.
Then I try a 2gb Sandisk. It mounts! And loads! Sweet. But 2gb sucks, so I try my last brand of 8gb, a Kingston. Yes! It mounts and loads.
Sweetness.
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congrats to both of you!
Guess I'm running a H316 now myself (prior to that it was H304) !
;D
So I guess I'll be running a H116 from now on ;D
edit:
Chuck, still have that adapter for sale? Don't have anything to offer for a trade though (I don't think)
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congrats to both of you!
Guess I'm running a H316 now myself (prior to that it was H304) !
;D
So I guess I'll be running a H116 from now on ;D
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Chuck, still have that adapter for sale? Don't have anything to offer for a trade though (I don't think)
Someone did buy the adaptor, sorry.
I am still interested in getting another CF card. Anything 8 gigs and up & cheap is what I want.
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Great thread, possibly going to do this to my newly acquired h120 also.
Is it easy to put in the CF card?? Does it need any soldering or anything or does it basically just clip in somehow.?
Cheers!
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Great thread, possibly going to do this to my newly acquired h120 also.
Is it easy to put in the CF card?? Does it need any soldering or anything or does it basically just clip in somehow.?
Cheers!
No soldering needed. It's pretty straight forward.
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Great thread, possibly going to do this to my newly acquired h120 also.
Is it easy to put in the CF card?? Does it need any soldering or anything or does it basically just clip in somehow.?
Cheers!
No soldering needed. It's pretty straight forward.
That's good news as my soldering is poor lol.
What parts is everyone using? I've found a few places in the UK that do the required parts but not sure if they're the right size or anything. These are what I'm looking at so far:
http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=11861
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1.8%22-for-toshiba-Hard-Drive,SSD,-CF-to-ipod-IDE-Adaptor_W0QQitemZ330299496734QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090109?IMSfp=TL090109118003r18271
Also, while I'm at it, thinking of changing the battery. Any UK'rs know where to get one that is good and fits the h120 without the polarity issue?
Many thanks,
Simon.
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What parts is everyone using? I've found a few places in the UK that do the required parts but not sure if they're the right size or anything.
I bought my adapter from one of the recommended sellers on the rockbox page, "linuxbeginner". You can save yourself a few quid if you pick it up from him:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360122712122
When shopping for battery, be careful to choose a reputed seller with recommendations (either from us here or Misticriver). The stated mAh figure doesn't always mean longer battery life.
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What parts is everyone using? I've found a few places in the UK that do the required parts but not sure if they're the right size or anything.
I bought my adapter from one of the recommended sellers on the rockbox page, "linuxbeginner". You can save yourself a few quid if you pick it up from him:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360122712122
When shopping for battery, be careful to choose a reputed seller with recommendations (either from us here or Misticriver). The stated mAh figure doesn't always mean longer battery life.
Thanks. So where/whom is a reputable place to get a new battery?
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If it is marked 'Sino' or 'CameronSino' you should be fine.
Do not get a generic ipod replacement battery, get one that is marked specifically for the irivers (h1x0 and h3x0 share the same battery)
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Finally did the CF mod. Also changed the battery whilst I had it to bits. ;D
I got the stuff from the following:
IDE > CF adapt: http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/498k/
Specific item link: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CF-to-1-8-IDE-hard-drive-adapter-card-laptop-HDD-L-UK_W0QQitemZ370144562237QQihZ024QQcategoryZ61816QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
Cameron Sino Battery (came already with correct polarity): http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/licketysplitauctions/
Specific link: http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/LicketySplitAuctions_iRiver_W0QQ_fsubZ1145131QQ_sidZ121701705QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em322
For the CF card I grabbed an 8gb Kingston Elite Pro (133x) from Amazon.
The CF mod is simple to do but damn I must have spent about an hour trying to change the battery. The plugs are small and the gap they give you is just not big enough. I ended up giving the plastic plug a big shave and finally squeezed it in.
Turned it on after the mod and battery change and it instantly booted up with zero problems when I connected it to the USB to transfer the .rockbox folder back over. I've booted it on/off a few times just to make sure and then put the casing back on. Just charging the battery right now to see that it holds a good charge ok and that I ain't got a duffer.
By the way: Did you guys have to really squeeze the casing together to close it fully..? I didn't force it or anything but it must be pretty 'tight' in there and was worried about any heat. I bent the jumper down ok, I think it's the bigger battery which makes it a more tighter fit but I guess it should be ok. Soon find out anyhow, heh.
Thanks for the help in this thread, this is really a genius idea and a big great FU to HDD's. :)
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I haven't done the CF mod yet. I will probably wait until I can get a R-09HR so I'll still be with a unit if I screw anything up. I did change the battery a while back on the 120 and 320. The casing is very snug after the new battery goes in but it should be fine. I did it last year when Overstock was selling those refurbed iRivers. I got the 320 and decided both units could use a new battery.
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yes, the Sino battery is just a little bit thicker but still fits... Have fun with your modded iriver :)
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Mod performed yesterday on my iHP110 -> iHP108SS.
After reading the Rockbox instructions (a couple of times, to be honest) I found the actual operations to be swift and painless.
The step by step instructions by Arni99 on page 9 in this thread didn't do the trick for me - it lacked a couple of vital steps that the Rockbox page had.
Also took the opportunity to change to a 2200mAh battery while at it.
Works like a charm. Evaluation of battery life and system stability will be performed this week.
/Matsa
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Having just swapped the hard-drive in my second iHP-140 with a CF card, I started to wonder about something.
Is it better to have the recorder boot from RAM or ROM? I have had no problems, so far, booting the first one from ROM. So, I have set my second recorder to boot from ROM, too. Is one preferable over the other for any reason?
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ok I swear I read the whole thread, but still have some doubts
Petur mentioned any card should work (x133 or above), but I see here and there (misticriver and rockbox forums) people reporting errors with some specific brands (Trascend...)
Kingston Elite Pro 32GB Compact Flash (CF) Flash Card Model CF/32GB-S2 - Retail
I found this model for 77$ on neweggg (not bad!). It is 133x and compatible with ATA specs, however on the Rockbox Wiki (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide#Compatibility_Chart) some users are having issues.
"Really nice in rockbox, fast copying (look for UDMA Patch), heavy bootup problems! (Cold boot always leads to hangup, maybe bootloader problem? After reset every thing is superfine)".
Is this because they are using an old rockbox version (pre 3.0)?
I also saw some reports of rnot so usual random errors, which many users say it is fine for everyday listening (who cares about 1 sec dropuot every two days) but might be unacceptable for recording. Is this 100% recommended for recording?
Any other recomendations for 32GB cards?
thanks
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Petur mentioned any card should work (x133 or above), but I see here and there (misticriver and rockbox forums) people reporting errors with some specific brands (Trascend...)
"Really nice in rockbox, fast copying (look for UDMA Patch), heavy bootup problems! (Cold boot always leads to hangup, maybe bootloader problem? After reset every thing is superfine)".
Is this because they are using an old rockbox version (pre 3.0)?
Best thing is to PM the guy reporting the error, and ask if he tested the card with a later version.
Two things to note about these reports:
1. Most of them were done during development, when the CF boot process wasn't stable yet.
2. Since the 1xx and 3xx series use slightly different bootloaders, you can't take for granted that a card that failed on a 3xx won't work on a 1xx (although it's likely).
Good luck and post your results here! :-)
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indeed, during development we had issues with some cards, but these should all have been fixed.
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i contacted the guy and he reported some strange issues: it works fine but he ALWAYS has to do a soft reset. weird.
So petur, is it safe to say that all CF cards should work with latest firmware and bootloader?
I remember some of them being not compatible at all...
thannks
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anyone has a link for ebay user selling the IDE>CF adapter that works with iriver?
i sucessfully changed my H320 battery today and want to do the CF mod ;D
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cheap and succesfully tested
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.18463
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That's cool. I had to get mine sent from China, via eBay.
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well actually they ship from Asia but dealextreme proved to be a reliable and cheap company
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cheap and succesfully tested
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.18463
thanks!
just ordered mine ;D
that was cheap :o
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Is 7-pre4 still the current bootloader? Not sure if I'd update if there's a newer one, in case I screw something up.
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sorry to hijack the thread, but anyone knows where can i buy a H320 case (with belt clip)??
thanks
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sorry to hijack the thread, but anyone knows where can i buy a H320 case (with belt clip)??
Thank you for hijacking this thread. Search ebay for a silcone enclosure
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sorry to hijack the thread, but anyone knows where can i buy a H320 case (with belt clip)??
thanks
I've got an extra 320 case with belt clip. It's black, cloth, and is of the "hard" shell type (so it doesn't bend/twist/quish etc), and has the belt clip of couse. If you want to see a picture of it, LMK and I can send you one.
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sorry to hijack the thread, but anyone knows where can i buy a H320 case (with belt clip)??
thanks
I've got an extra 320 case with belt clip. It's black, cloth, and is of the "hard" shell type (so it doesn't bend/twist/quish etc), and has the belt clip of couse. If you want to see a picture of it, LMK and I can send you one.
you see, the hijack worked ;D
pm'ed you
back to the thread: any news about the SD cards (IDE > CF > SD)?
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One of my fellow devs bought one, and we could try this during devcon (19-21 june) since he's coming and I am attending (even organizing) too.
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Did a second CF mod into an Iriver IHP120 with a 16GB 133x Trascend CF card.
I had the Ata:80 error so I tried, after reading A LOT, the rombox.iriver flashing, instead of the bootloader.iriver flash ONLY
Now it works like a charm.
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One of my fellow devs bought one, and we could try this during devcon (19-21 june) since he's coming and I am attending (even organizing) too.
Oh bugger... I forgot all about this :(
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One of my fellow devs bought one, and we could try this during devcon (19-21 june) since he's coming and I am attending (even organizing) too.
Oh bugger... I forgot all about this :(
So, I asked the fellow dev to try this out for me, and it failed. He was unable to get his h300 working with the SD->CF adapter. When attached to the PC, there were also transfer errors, and USB is completely handled in hardware, so either his SD-.CF adapter isn't good, or this combination will never work out.
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I also have a 16gb CF card in mine. it was a snap....
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Strange: Everytime I disconnect from USB I get the ATA-80 error. It is fine after at soft reset so it isn't a big deal.
Anyone else had this problem? Is it related to the specific CF-card?
/Matsa
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Only plug in or unplug the USB cable while the device is on.
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Yup, that was it. Thanks! :)
/Matsa
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So does anybody know if the full REP was included into the newest current build of rockbox? I saw mention that the was the intent but didn't see if it ever actually happened. The rockbox forums are a PITA to navigate for me so I thought I would ask here as I am contemplating doing the CF mod to my h120.
Thanks in advance!
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Still have to add the histogram, most of the rest of the REP is already in there for ages... What feature were you looking for?
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very cool, that this thread is still active ;D
after years i wanna come back from my bricky h330 to my beloved h120 (betrayed it for the sake of the color display :o ) and pimp it with a 16gb flash card -> Kingston CompactFlash Card (CF) Elite Pro 133x 16GB (CF/16GB-S2)
my question is: which bootloader was used? was it v6 or V7-pre4?
can you access the iriver just as normal usb-usm-drive as when using a hdd?
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Still have to add the histogram, most of the rest of the REP is already in there for ages... What feature were you looking for?
The recording balance meter would be great to have from the REP.
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after years i wanna come back from my bricky h330 to my beloved h120 (betrayed it for the sake of the color display :o ) and pimp it with a 16gb flash card -> Kingston CompactFlash Card (CF) Elite Pro 133x 16GB (CF/16GB-S2)
my question is: which bootloader was used? was it v6 or V7-pre4?
can you access the iriver just as normal usb-usm-drive as when using a hdd?
You'll need V7-pr4 I think (is detailed in the CFMod wiki page on rockbox.org)
It will be accessible as normal USB disk, yes. Original firmware will no longer work, it doesn't like the CF ;)
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ok :)
too make it foolproof:
1) flash to v7pre4
2) copy latest build to the cf, insert it in the h120, do a reset, restart?
3) done?
btw hows improvement on battery life and weight?
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What is the largest capacity CF card that some has sucessfuly used in this mod?
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16 gig here
edit to add info:
16GB CF 133X KINGSTON
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16 gig here, I'd have to open the thing up to see what exactly I put in there though (type/model etc)
So I'm assuming that it is besst to use higher end cards ie. kingston, sandisk rather than the generic cards.
Not all brands work with the mod?
What does work?
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here's a couple posts of 32gig CF cards being successfully installed (in H320's that is)
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=20823.0
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=22231.0
Might want to take a look at this page as well - it's a good starting point
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide
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Okay so I read the rock box wiki page on this. so if i'm just swapping out the HDD for a CF card do I still need to flash the firmware with bootloader 7 pre 4. I know I would have to copy the rock box files to my computer then load them to the CF card but is it mandintory to flash and reload rock box first?
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Okay so I read the rock box wiki page on this. so if i'm just swapping out the HDD for a CF card do I still need to flash the firmware with bootloader 7 pre 4. I know I would have to copy the rock box files to my computer then load them to the CF card but is it mandintory to flash and reload rock box first?
I did another one recently. I used bootloader 7 pre 4.
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On an already rockboxed H120 can I copy the rockbox dir to my pc. Install the CF card connect to PC via USB copy rockbox dir to CF card restart and bingo mod complete?
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On an already rockboxed H120 can I copy the rockbox dir to my pc. Install the CF card connect to PC via USB copy rockbox dir to CF card restart and bingo mod complete?
depends which bootloader is installed, the version number is shown at startup (right after switching it on)
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i also can report a success ;D
i used arnis manual (http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,95239.msg1388440.html#msg1388440) using a 8gb sandisk extreme which will be recognized as a
(http://www.abload.de/img/sandisk68y2.jpg)
was kinda scary though. it was booting, could access the drive but playing any song caused a crash. did some resets, cleared settings and somehow it worked in the end ;D works very smooth and nicely now :)
the player enjoyed a decent diet. while it was 168g before, its a lightweight of 130g now.
btw which rockbox v3 compatible wps are available?
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On an already rockboxed H120 can I copy the rockbox dir to my pc. Install the CF card connect to PC via USB copy rockbox dir to CF card restart and bingo mod complete?
depends which bootloader is installed, the version number is shown at startup (right after switching it on)
Sweet I updated to the latest firmware 3.3 and bootloader 7 pre 4. So now i can install the cf card and copy the rockbox dir to the card. Correct?
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yepper! ;D
(I hope)
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i just plugged in the charger and the green light is alight. is that ok? does it turn off when its done?
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Yes, off when charged.
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I don't know if this was asked, its late and I just can't read anymore.
Can this be done in the other direction? i.e. A device that normally uses CF, replace the CF with a HD. (any size, preferably 2.5")?
I have searched all over but all I come up with is CF to IDE (replacing HD with CF). I want to replace a CF with HD.....i know, sounds strange, but I'd like to try.
I have an 80GB JB3 that i'd like to replace. I have been eyeing up the PMD660. I just don't like the portable media. I have 80BG in the JBE, if I could make an adapter to plug into the CF slot and feed the HD, i'd be happy and be able to record long weekends. The entire weekend. I'd hate to invest in lots of CF's or have a laptop on site to transfer to. I am not worried about battery power. The mypowers look like they can handle anything.
Sorry if the wrong place to ask here, I just cannot find any info. And you are all so knowledgeable. But I don't see why it can't be reversed. and for cheap. THe interfaces are so similar.
Thanks in advanced.
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Can this be done in the other direction? i.e. A device that normally uses CF, replace the CF with a HD. (any size, preferably 2.5")?
It should be possible in theory, but it doesn't make much sense, given the low cost of solid state media.
You'd either have make it a DIY soldering project, or you can start out with a CF>IDE adapter and add two male/female pin converters on each end.
It's going to be a lot bulkier than a CF card, so your main problem will be fitting this contraption inside a recorder that was designed for just a CF card to start with. Go figure... 8)
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I don't know if this was asked, its late and I just can't read anymore.
Can this be done in the other direction? i.e. A device that normally uses CF, replace the CF with a HD. (any size, preferably 2.5")?
I have searched all over but all I come up with is CF to IDE (replacing HD with CF). I want to replace a CF with HD.....i know, sounds strange, but I'd like to try.
I have an 80GB JB3 that i'd like to replace. I have been eyeing up the PMD660. I just don't like the portable media. I have 80BG in the JBE, if I could make an adapter to plug into the CF slot and feed the HD, i'd be happy and be able to record long weekends. The entire weekend. I'd hate to invest in lots of CF's or have a laptop on site to transfer to. I am not worried about battery power. The mypowers look like they can handle anything.
Sorry if the wrong place to ask here, I just cannot find any info. And you are all so knowledgeable. But I don't see why it can't be reversed. and for cheap. THe interfaces are so similar.
Thanks in advanced.
If I am understanding here, you are looking at getting a PMD660, but want to swap out the CF card for with the 80gig drive from your JB3? I suppose it could be done, but Sunjan pretty much summed it up.
If there is a Team PMD660 thread, you might wanna cross post this there too.
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Worked like a charm I now have a freshly modded H116 ;D
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Just wondering if anyone has used these 32GB A-Data speedys in H1X0s with any success....
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41wjXYGwziL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)
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http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.18463
Its got less pins, just line it up where it will slide in?
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Just wondering if anyone has used these 32GB A-Data speedys in H1X0s with any success....
Several successful reports here, with both H1x0 and H3x0 series:
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f43/sold-iriver-h132-32gb-cf-mod-cameron-sino-2200mah-battery-now-shipping-internationally-345437/
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211244
http://www.misticriver.net/forums/rockbox-h3xx-series/57873-cf-h320.html
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Can someone up a .rockbox folder of a successful mod? The HD was dead in the unit so I can't do it that way
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Can someone up a .rockbox folder of a successful mod? The HD was dead in the unit so I can't do it that way
from a H1xx or H3xx model?
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Can someone up a .rockbox folder of a successful mod? The HD was dead in the unit so I can't do it that way
from a H1xx or H3xx model?
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THANK YOU for this great thread!
I thought my H120 to be lost after 10 years, when I dropped it and the harddrive was broken. Couldn't afford another MK GAL somewhat for like 300.-. I didn't even have Rockbox installed, so I couldn't go Runrunrun's way, I needed a HD first to install the Rockbox-Bootloader.
Now recently, a friend phoned me up, saying he once saw me still using my good ol' IRiver and that he found his old broken H140 when he mucked out his drawers, that he had regrets just throwing it away, asking if I had any use for it. How beautiful is that?!
The HardDrive was louder than a chainsaw, but worked and my IRiver is now officially Rockboxed. Now I'm waiting for the Adapter and the CF-Card to arrive. :o
I really would like to repair his H140 in return for his favour, but the switch that corresponds with the play-button is somehow crushed, so it's not possible to turn-on the device. Has anybody experience with repairing defective buttons?
Now go Adapter, go CF-Card, and finally go again IRiver, for another 10 Years! :laugh:
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Okay, so I just performed the CFMod on my H120. Is there any harm in using an old REP build with this mod? I really like the old REP builds with the adjustable sized peak meters, they feel less cluttered than the current daily builds.
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the current daily builds use the user font, so bigger font == bigger peakmeters
There is talks right now about making the whole screen skinnable, so expect the REP to become obsolete somewhere in the future :)
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the current daily builds use the user font, so bigger font == bigger peakmeters
There is talks right now about making the whole screen skinnable, so expect the REP to become obsolete somewhere in the future :)
Not to be a complete ass, but you didn't answer my question. You are saying with a new build to get larger peakmeters I have to have a bigger font, I don't want that. I just want regular sized font and big ass peakmeters. The two should be independent of each other in my opinion. I don't know how skins work, I just like how the old REP builds have a seperate adjustment for the size of the peakmeters independent of font size.
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point taken. We'll try to let the skins define peakmeter size ;)
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Possibly not the best place to ask this but I was wondering if this sort of mod would be possible with any hard drive-equiped device.
I ask because I have picked up a Korg D1600 recorder which has an ATA hard drive - something that seems to be getting harder (though not yet impossible) to source. Swapping it for 64GB of flash media sounds like an attractive solution.
Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated.
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simple answer: somebody has to try it ;)
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simple answer: somebody has to try it ;)
The parts are already on the way...
Expect to hear many, many expletives.
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Hmm. I did the CF Mod on my rockboxed 120. Everything worked fine, I stealthed a show with it (think chick music, SC, something about an avalanche..) No problems.
I did the USB transfer, realize it has to be reset after that, I did that, I get the bootloader - my default was boot from RAM but it's on the Shut Down selection, and the NAV button doesn't work now, and I can't move it up to boot from RAM (or ROM or whatever...).
It was working fine before. Any ideas? ???
Never mind. Had the hold button on. :P
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Okay, another question, anyone try this?
ata/cf adapter > cf/SDHC adapter?
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Okay, another question, anyone try this?
ata/cf adapter > cf/SDHC adapter?
Yes, a fellow rockbox developer tried this and failed. Maybe it was his particular adapter/SD combination, but it is a sure sign it won't be plug and play...
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Could I possibly ask for some help?
I am currently preparing an iRiver H120 for CF-modding and have ordered the parts.
The instructions here:
http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CFModGuide
are not simple enough for me! I think it's my age..I'm nearly 40 and not a computer whiz-kid.
I have currently installed the latest version of rockbox (r24254-100116) for my iRiver - I probably didn't do this right - I unzipped it on my pc, then copied across the .rockbox folder, however I seem to have two versions of Rockbox installed.
The latest version fires up when the power is switched on. If I navigate to Files, and click the rockbox.iriver file, it fires up the old version (CVS-060721).
Could someone please let me know what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks,
Humbug
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Oh yeah, a screenshot:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/Humbug66/screenshot.jpg)
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You should delete the .hex file and the .rar files as they are unecessary (you can save those on your computer's HD and then delete them off your H120). I believe that the rockbox.iriver file is not supposed to be outside of the .rockbox folder. It is dated from your install of 7-21-2006, that is whay I say that. If you examine the .rockbox folder, you have a rockbox.iriver folder that will be of the correct date. In fact, I just looked at the recent install I did and I did exactly what you did, clicked on the remanant rockbox.iriver file from my previous install (7-17-2006) and it booted up the old image even though I replaced the .rockbox folder with the newer version. I deleted the file in question and it runs just fine without it. I went to my old archive of old H120 .rockbox folders and noticed that there were no rockbox.iriver files within the .rockbox folder (all from 2006). It must be some new file arrangement now.
Don't forget to install the pre7beta4 bootloader, I just did this last month and will be doing a 32GB CF upgrade very shortly myself. Which CF card did you settle on? I am thinking of getting the Adata Speedy here in Japan but the Topram is about $25 cheaper in the US.
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yes, remove the rockbox.iriver file from the root, it should only be present in the .rockbox directory.
And being nearly 40 is no excuse, I'm your age. So I know that you grew up with computers :P
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OK, I admit it, I owned one of these as a teenager:
(http://www.computermuseum.li/Testpage/ZX-81-Spectrum.jpg)
I think the job you've done, and the level of detail that's gone into Rockbox is amazing, I personally find it hard to follow the instructions though. I'm not sure if that's me, or if others have found this too..
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Took me a while to get my head around it too! I followed this post, and it worked great:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=95239.msg1388440#msg1388440
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Great! I must have read through this thread a couple of times and not noticed that post properly.
H120 now flashed; just awaiting the arrival of the CF card (Kingston Elite 16GB) and screwdriver.
Thanks for your help.
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Seeing this thread bumped just reminded me: I posted a couple of pages back about doing a similar mod to my Korg 16-track... for the record, it didn't work and for a distressing half-hour it actually seemed to have completely killed the recorder.
Looking forward to similar (but hopefully more successful) tinkering with my Iriver in due course.
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Seeing this thread bumped just reminded me: I posted a couple of pages back about doing a similar mod to my Korg 16-track... for the record, it didn't work and for a distressing half-hour it actually seemed to have completely killed the recorder.
I'm not surprised actually.... It took me quite some time to get CF working - it doesn't work in the original firmware and it didn't work in rockbox at first either.
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Phew - seems to have worked OK! Took me about 30 minutes.
Plastic prongs stop adaptor being fitted:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/Humbug66/apart1.jpg)
Oops snapped one off (circled). Other one shortened.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/Humbug66/apart2.jpg)
Finished - looks OK! Why only 15GB? Now to test it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/Humbug66/finished-1.jpg)
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1024 Bytes (not 1000) in a Megabyte prob. explains why you're reading only 15GB.
I love my Rockboxed CF Mod IRiver. Much lighter, quieter, way better battery performance. I remember some struggle and drama when I initially did the CF Mod. But when I get one of those Sony M10s, not sure I'll use it anymore.
Rockbox is not just for IRivers though......
I Rockboxed an IPod Video 60GB, loaded it up with live FLACs, it plays DOOM, etc. Totally cool, especially once you get a "theme" together which shows "album art" (read: pictures of Jerry playing live) track lists, etc. I've only got about 10GB left (though keep pruning it) so I think my wife's old Toshiba 60GB Gigabeat is next.....
What would be totally cool is dropping a 1 TB drive in one of these, but I don't think they make em that small.
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Yep, not just for H1X0s! In fact, the developers are getting other ports up and running in the past year or so. I just installed it on my 2GB Sansa Clip and now it is my to-go player despite the small storage size! I have those old legacy Sansas RB'd too, e280 and c250. The e280 is great for Shinkansen rides, load it up with some WinFF scaled down Family Guy or Simpsons and I am in Kansai in a few episodes.
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We still need to find a good recent platform that has line-in. Had a look at the iriver E100 some time ago but it never took off.
Suggestions are always welcome ;)
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Hi,
I followed the guide for modding the iRiver iHP120 with CF, however with RB (Jan 26, 2010 build with bootloader 7pre4) it hangs on the RB logo screen with my new Kingston 32gb Elite Pro x133 CF card using any boot mode selected.
disk (expected), ram, or rom.
any thoughts?
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obvious questions: was the card formatted to FAT32? You loaded the 1/26/2010 build onto it (.rockbox folder)? You preflashed the iriver.rockbox (RAM image) and iriver.rombox (ROM image) to the ROM with your HD?
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Correct, all three bootloader (7pre4), Jan 26 ram and rom images are flashed. I get all 4 options at bootup, disk, ram, rom, shutdown.
It is formatted FAT32
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Success with a 32GB TOPRAM CF (I had tested it in a dry run with a 2GB Kingston Elite Pro). About a 45min job as I had to replace a Li-Poly battery as well, the damned power leads from the battery came off as I was double sticking it to the back plate. I just shortend the leads a bit and resoldered.
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I just succeeded doing the CF-mod on my rockboxed iHP-120! ;D
What did I do on my iHP-120:
(0. Order the CF-to-IDE-adapter => ebay)
1. install the latest H120 rockbox-build from today
2. download the necessary "7pre4"-bootloader for the H120 here:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/IriverFlashing?rev=1;filename=bootloader_h120_7pre4.zip
3. copy the "7pre4"-bootloader to your H120´s harddisk(root directory)
4. FLASHING:
First Initialize your player as follows: (Stop audio-playback).
- Set "Show Files" to "All" in "General Settings"
- Enter the File Browser by choosing "Files" in the Rockbox menu
- Navigate to "bootloader.iriver"
- Mark "bootloader.iriver" and press(long) joystick - then select "Open with..."
- From the list of plugins, select "iriver_flash" and execute.
- If all went smoothly a confirmation message should be displayed
- Press PLAY-button (right side TOP-button) to confirm, the firmware flashing-process starts,
- "Success"-message and the player will return to the file browser
5. Copy the complete rockbox directory to your PC
6. Replace the HDD using the CF-to-IDE Adapter mentioned in this thread on page 1.
7. Bend down the adpater´s jumper, otherwise you´ll run into issues later on ;)
8. Copy the folder from your PC back to the CF-card
9. Fix the 8 torx screws and you are DONE!
I use a SANDISK 8GB extreme III CF-card, which has ONLY 133x speed(about 20MB/s read and write).
No errors on boot-screen.
"System/Rockbox-Info" shows 7.xx GB as supposed to.
Here a pic of my "challenge":
My 8GB CF card attached to the ebay-Honkong-"CF-to-IDE adapter" :): You can see how I needed to bend down the blue jumper.
(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/5083/cfmodh120007as7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Any have a lead on a current replacement for this link? I have all my hardware coming in to attempt this mod =) I'm still not certain about the process though-- OP says I can just install it as a blank CF, then plug in the brain-dead new iriver and have the comp read it as a USB device, then just install the RockBox files that way.... but the above quoted post has some step that mentions this "7pre4" thing, and I'm not even quite sure what that is and what it does....
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Hello - though I've never tried to record with the H116, I gave it to the other half, and for a couple of months it's worked fine as a music player.
However as of yesterday, it comes up with "No partition found".
I don't have another card, or device in which it'll work, can someone suggest what to do?
I have tried taking the iRiver apart and putting it back together, doesn't change things..
Forgot to mention that my pc doesn't recognise the H116 as a drive any more.
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Hello - though I've never tried to record with the H116, I gave it to the other half, and for a couple of months it's worked fine as a music player.
However as of yesterday, it comes up with "No partition found".
I don't have another card, or device in which it'll work, can someone suggest what to do?
My gut instinct is that you've dropped the recorder, and the IDE connector has lost contact. But I assume you pushed it back firmly when reassembling it.
Do you get a rockbox error code? That usually helps when troubleshooting.
Other ideas:
Borrow/buy a card reader to verify if the CF card is working or shot. Shouldn't cost you more than $10 or so, and is useful to have anyway.
Borrow/buy another card.
If you still have the original HDD, put it back.
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I bought a CF modded H120. I wanted to know what steps I would have to take to put a 32gig CF card in it? How would I transfer the H120 & rockbox firmware to the 32 gig card? Thanks for your help in advance
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I bought a CF modded H120. I wanted to know what steps I would have to take to put a 32gig CF card in it? How would I transfer the H120 & rockbox firmware to the 32 gig card? Thanks for your help in advance
Just copy the .rockbox directory to the new card, or download the latest version from rockbox.org.
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well yeah, and no
plug your iriver into your computer (via usb) anb copy the entire rockbox folder from the iriver to your computer.
Now on the hard part. :)
open up your Iriver, and swap out the CF card.
then go back to step #1 and hook up your iriver to your computer (again via usb) and copy that .rockbox folder back to the iriver.
reboot the iriver, cross your fingers and you might just be done!
;D
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Okay guys, I did the mod and everything came out perfectly! (almost)... Everything boots and looks good, but once I go to the recording screen, it boots me out, saying "The disk is full. Press STOP to continue.", so I do that, go to System > Rockbox Info, and I'm seeing 14.8GB free out of 14.9GB total (on a 16GB 233x Ridata from newegg). The card will accept file transfers from my PC via the USB, but it seems to freak out like this if I try and record. What gives?
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I'm seeing 14.8GB free out of 14.9GB total (on a 16GB 233x Ridata from newegg). The card will accept file transfers from my PC via the USB, but it seems to freak out like this if I try and record. What gives?
Sounds like a compatibility issue. Do you have any spare CF cards lying around to compare with? Or borrow some from your friends. Post results here...
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maybe I should try to get my hands on one of these cards to debug...
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Hi,
My RockBoxed h140 hard disk died recently, and taking the opportunity I decided to go to a solid state configuration, with a HD1.8-CF converter from DealExtreme and a Transcend 8GB 133x CF card.
Problem is that the bootloader in my h140 is v6, so I'm getting ATA -80 errors and the CF disk is not recognized. Booting from the iRiver stock firmware after a hard reset show a disk with 0 capacity and mangled disk structure.
Is there any way to flash out the latest v7-pre4 bootloader someway without a working hard disk?
Thanks, Wolf.
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Did you make or buy the drive connector part that converts to CF?
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The previous poster bought his adapter at Dealextreme. If you look back in this thread, a lot of users also bought theirs for a few bucks from an ebay vendor based in Hong Kong, IIRC.
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Great work with the CF mod everyone!
I was almost sold, but then i thought about an SSD.. has anyone ever tried it? I am assuming that it would be just as simple as swapping out the hard-drive, but with all the issues folks have had with CF cards.
Any ideas?
I think I'm going to go for a kingston.. any advice on which specs I should look for? speeds, etc.?
Thanks!!
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I was almost sold, but then i thought about an SSD.. has anyone ever tried it? I am assuming that it would be just as simple as swapping out the hard-drive.
Sure, it has been done:
http://www.misticriver.com/iriver-h1xx-series-h110-h115-h120-h140/55139-ide-ssd-drives-drop-replacement-h120.html
To conclude: it offers hardly any benefits from a taper perspective.
Up to 64GB, CF cards are cheaper, and less power hungry = longer battery life.
I see little justification going for a 128GB SSD, when you'd be limited to 8hrs runtime or so, due to higher draw.
Maybe it serves a purpose if you're going on a long jungle trip (or a very remote festival) with no access to charger outlets, provided you carry along plenty of external battery power.
But for real life use, remember that you can almost buy an M10 for the same money as that SSD... ;D
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Niiice! thanks for that link.
I love my irivers, probably going to use a 128 or 256 ssd in one for listening, and perhaps a 32 CF or less in another for recording.
not sure, for listening I'd rather have the space, not power..
Thank you all again! and again.
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Hello,
I have a rockboxed iHP-120 and and will be doing a 32GB CF upgrade shortly.
Does anyone have tried a Transcend 400x CF?
http://www.transcendusa.com/Products/ModDetail.asp?ModNo=264&LangNo=0&Func1No=1&Func2No=13
Looking in misticriver and rockbox pages and forums I haven't found any report about this compatibility.
I am thinking of getting this card instead of the Kingston 133x, as the Transcend 400x has a reasonable price, is probably faster and implements more completly the ATA specifications, according to this review:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A3Q8IJNTT67R8O/ref=cm_cr_pr_auth_rev?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview
Furthermore, there is also a reported issue with the Kingston Elite Pro 133x:
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29297
http://www.misticriver.com/hard-drives-batteries/54797-compact-flash-hard-drive-bad-luck.html
Any opinion will be very appreciated!
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Welcome florestanus!
It seems that you did all the research and checked all the right places. If there's nothing neither at Rockbox, Misticriver or here, that means you're probably the first one trying this particular model.
Go ahead and take the plunge, the worsst thing that could happen is that the card won't be recognized...
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Will this work to do a CF mod?
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/cf-to-1-8-ide-hard-drive-adapter-18463
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yep, that'll work. Ordering from them takes about a month before it arrives though. Actually, I think I have a spare one of those if you want me to track it down. New and still in the bag that is. You'll get it much quicker if you are in a hurry. :P
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I'm interested! LMK
yep, that'll work. Ordering from them takes about a month before it arrives though. Actually, I think I have a spare one of those if you want me to track it down. New and still in the bag that is. You'll get it much quicker if you are in a hurry. :P
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What speed of CF card do you guys use? My Creative Zen Jukebox 3 does not take higher than 133x. I already "wasted" two higher speed cards.
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What size and type of card? Do you want to sell them?
What speed of CF card do you guys use? My Creative Zen Jukebox 3 does not take higher than 133x. I already "wasted" two higher speed cards.
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I have bootloader 6 on my iriver. How do I get the 7pre4 bootloader so I can perform the CFmod? Thanks for any help.
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The bootloader is here:
http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IriverFlashing#Issues_with_the_bootloader
You might want to read this thread too:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=24118.0
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Thanks that's what I was looking for!
The bootloader is here:
http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IriverFlashing#Issues_with_the_bootloader
You might want to read this thread too:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=24118.0
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I have bootloader 6 on my iriver. How do I get the 7pre4 bootloader so I can perform the CFmod? Thanks for any help.
ok, you cross posted this in the Team iRiver thread as well, which is where I responded with this link
http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CFModGuide
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Sunjan thanks for the help! I got 7pre4 bootloader installed and flashed the new firmware. I'm just whating on my CF adapter and I can perform the mod. Much appreciated.
The bootloader is here:
http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IriverFlashing#Issues_with_the_bootloader
You might want to read this thread too:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=24118.0
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^ sent out today!
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Anyone have an extra CF adapter they can let go of!
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kinda off topic but is there any possible way to record at 96k on an iriver h120?
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^ no only 44.1 and 48
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interesting stuff..
I just did the mod with a wintec 32g CF : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161369&Tpk=wintec%2032g%20cf
used the the 7pre4 bootload, firmware version 3.7.1, all works out well..
I don't know if this has been tried before, but i put an older version from a v.6 bootloader, daily build from 5/07.
I wanted to use my old settings/fonts/ and most importantly the REP.
So, after completing the mod, i then made a backup of the new version, and copied the older build files to the CF. when i disconnected, it was running the old-timey rockbox like a champ!
REP is back in style.
Cheers!
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Will this work to do a CF mod?
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/cf-to-1-8-ide-hard-drive-adapter-18463
still looking for the proper adapter? I found these this past w/end, which are identical to the one in that picture. Certainly don't need 4 of these. If so let me know and I'll send one to ya
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That's what I need! I'll take one and send you back the adapter with a male end.
Will this work to do a CF mod?
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/cf-to-1-8-ide-hard-drive-adapter-18463
still looking for the proper adapter? I found these this past w/end, which are identical to the one in that picture. Certainly don't need 4 of these. If so let me know and I'll send one to ya
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I just replace the battery and did a cfmod to my h120! When I start the h120 it gets a ATA 80 error.
Edit: Got it working thanks to Chuck for the help
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After a very big gap (one year), and the purchase of a CF card reader, a second CF card, and two more CF adaptors, I now have one duff 16GB CF card (for the bin) and a working iRiver H108. Success!
Now to test it records OK.
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Hi,
I have a CF-Mod iHP-120 with bootloader V7-pre4 and rockbox flashed to RAM and ROM (booting from ROM).
I'm not able to update successfully rockbox (actually 3.7.1 version) re-flashing both RAM and ROM, as obviously i can't boot directly from CF (I get ata-80 error)! It was to me impossible to execute correctly the flashing procedure. In fact, according with rockbox official IriverFlashing page, it seems that booting from disk is absolutely necessary, before updating a pre-flashed H1xx.
Are there any solutions to perform the upgrade (apart from reistalling the HD)?
Thanks in advance for any help
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If you still have a functional HD, it's the easiest way to make sure everything is set and updated to the latest version before you move on to the CF mod.
Also, check that your CF card is known to be compatible. There is an incomplete list on rockbox.org, but ideally you could have a few cards lying around and check multiple while modding.
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Hi, Thanks for your answer.
Yes, I have the previous HD, but I don't want to to disassembly the player again every time a new rockbox version is released!
My CF Mod iHP-120 with a 32GB Transcend 400x works flawless, yet It only can boot from RAM or ROM.
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Yes, I have the previous HD, but I don't want to to disassembly the player again every time a new rockbox version is released!
you'll have to forgive me as it's been a while (so feel free to correct me if I am wrong), but once you are have a "rockboxed" iRiver and have the CF card mod done to it , there is no reason to disassemble the iriver each and every time a new version of the Rockbox software comes out. Well depends on what you are updating I guess, the firmware (pre-boot loader etc) or the rockbox software? Whenever I updated the software (ie Rockbox), you don't have to put the old (or any) hard drive back in, so no dis-assembly, or at least I didn't.....
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you'll have to forgive me as it's been a while (so feel free to correct me if I am wrong), but once you are have a "rockboxed" iRiver and have the CF card mod done to it , there is no reason to disassemble the iriver each and every time a new version of the Rockbox software comes out. Well depends on what you are updating I guess, the firmware (pre-boot loader etc) or the rockbox software? Whenever I updated the software (ie Rockbox), you don't have to put the old (or any) hard drive back in, so no dis-assembly, or at least I didn't.....
I need to update nothing but rockbox, not the boatloader (V7-pre4 is the last available). As the Cf Mod iRiver will only boot from RAM or ROM (setting the boot sequence), I cannot simply copy the new Rockbox firmware in the CF.
I should have to re-flash both RAM and ROM also. I have already tried this with no success. It looks like this procedure doesn't work before booting the player from disk (I get the "notorious" ata-80 error with the boot sequence setted to disk). :(
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My CF Mod iHP-120 with a 32GB Transcend 400x works flawless, yet It only can boot from RAM or ROM.
Either I'm confused or you're contradicting yourself here. You have a CF modded iriver that "works flawless", yet you seem to have some booting problems and sometimes get the ATA-80 error. That doesn't sound flawless to me. ??? ??? ???
After a successful CF mod, you should be able to boot it normally by just pressing the play button once, and it starts up, loads Rockbox and is fully operational.
Can you tell us exactly how your modded iriver behaves when doing a normal boot up?
if you have issues, put back your HD, ensure you have the latest bootloader and install the latest Rockbox version.
Follow these instruction, and read the note about ATA-80 error and how to get rid of it here:
http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CFModGuide#Current_bootloader_install_procedure_for_iRiver_H120
Once you've done that, you never have to open your iriver again. If there is any new Rockbox version released, you can just overwrite the previous, and CF functionality will remain.
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Sorry for my bad english. Pherhaps I haven't made myself understood very well, but I don't think I'm contradicting myself!
I already know the CFModGuide, and I performed exactly the explained procedure when I modded the player.
The "ata error: -80" when trying to boot on CF is a known issue with at least many CF cards, also reported in the link you posted:
"Turn the iriver on with HOLD enabled to enter the bootloader configuration, and proceed to boot the RAM or ROM image. (If you boot the ROM image, you again get ATA -80, of course). You can also make booting the RAM image default. (For me (DavidAJohnston) both RAM and ROM booting work -- booting from disk is the only one that produces ata -80. Since this doesn't seem to be consistent, my best suggestion would be to use whichever one (RAM or ROM) works for you) "
I have the last bootloader (V7-pre4) neverthless the player only can boot the RAM or ROM image. Setting the boot to disk, i get the the following error:
ata error -80
insert USB cable and press a button
and successively
no partition found
In evidence the Trascend Premium 400x isn't fully compatible.
A part this issue the player works very well, booting to ROM image is very fast, and until this time I thought there wasn't any problem, as I never tried to upgrade rockbox before!
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With Transcend cards you have to boot from Ram or Rom!! What I'm not understanding is why that is a problem. As long as it boots to Rockbox without the error you will be in good shape.
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With Transcend cards you have to boot from Ram or Rom!! What I'm not understanding is why that is a problem. As long as it boots to Rockbox without the error you will be in good shape.
The only problem is that I'm not able to upgrade rockbox! I should have to re-fresh both Ram and Rom and, before performing successfully this operation, I need to boot the player from CF...
Otherwise it is impossible to over-write the Rom image through iriver_flash!
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^ I never had this problem and I booted mine from Rom or Ram can't remember know. I was still able to upgrade. If you have a stable version of Rockbox there really isn't a need to upgrade anyway. I would just plug it in to the usb and delete the old RB folder and drag and drop the new one. Work flawlessly for me.
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I have a qesion maybe someone can answer. I was able to successfully do the CF Mod a few months back. Everything works great except for one thing.
After i have transferred the filed to my computer via USB...I try to unmount the iriver. My computer says it is safe to remove hardware at which pooint I remove the USB pluf from my computer. When i do this my player say partition not found and I am not able to turn the unit off by holding the off button.
I have to actually use a paperclip in the reset button on the unit. Once I do that everything works fine again.
It's not a huge deal but it is kinda a pain since I have an iSkin on the player that I need to peel off it every time I have to do this.
Has anyone else ever had this issue?
Is there a way to remedy this?
Thanks
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If you have a stable version of Rockbox <snip>, I would just plug it in to the usb and delete the old RB folder and drag and drop the new one. Work flawlessly for me.
yes, that is what I remember doing as well and worked flawlessly for me.
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If you have a stable version of Rockbox <snip>, I would just plug it in to the usb and delete the old RB folder and drag and drop the new one. Work flawlessly for me.
yes, that is what I remember doing as well and worked flawlessly for me.
Are yours players booting from Rom?
I have already tried, but this solution doesn't work for me!
The kernel of the previous version of rockbox was flashed in the Rom image, so there are inchoerent data with the files in the new rockbox folder copied in the CF.
The iRiver turns on usually, but doesn't play any file.
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So how do i upgrade my current build with the CF Mod?
I have bootloader version 7pre4 installed and generally boot from ROM.
I connected my unit to my computer via USB and unzipped the 2011-08-25 (todays) build to the rockbox folder.
It still shows my version as 2011-04-15.
I tried flashing from ROM and RAM and it displayed the message "Incompatible Version".
Don't know what to do now. Am I ever going to be able to update the current build to something more recent. If so,...how?
Any and all help is appreciated.
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So how do i upgrade my current build with the CF Mod?
It seems that it is impossible if your player isn't able to boot from disk (CF).
http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IriverFlashing:
NOTE: if you're updating a pre-flashed H1xx ensure that the boot sequence is set to DISK prior to executing RoLo.
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I don't own an H120 anymore, but I would down load the folder to my desktop and then I would delete the folder off the recorder. After that I would drag and drop the new rockbox folder on to the H120. If that doesn't work I'm out of suggestions. ???
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^ I second what he said (with the exception of I still have my H320)
:P
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I don't own an H120 anymore, but I would down load the folder to my desktop and then I would delete the folder off the recorder. After that I would drag and drop the new rockbox folder on to the H120. If that doesn't work I'm out of suggestions. ???
Anyhow you would copy the new rockbox folder on the CF, you still will have the previous version flashed in the Rom!
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if I am following you, the rockbox software doesn't run from the ROM, it runs from the CF card
???
Anyhow you would copy the new rockbox folder on the CF, you still will have the previous version flashed in the Rom!
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if I am following you, the rockbox software doesn't run from the ROM, it runs from the CF card
???
Anyhow you would copy the new rockbox folder on the CF, you still will have the previous version flashed in the Rom!
We are talking about a pre-flashed CF Mod iRiver wich only can boot from ROM or RAM. The "core" of the rockbox was flashed to the ROM.
So If you simple replace the rockbox folder with the last version one - without re-flashing - the player will not be able to work correctly.
In fact it will display again the previous rockbox version number, and rockbox utility will show double version data, too.
I have just found among Rockbox Technical Forums this post that confirm my point of view:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27363.0.html
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I have flashed my iRiver with "7pre4"-bootloader, I use boot from ram or rom and it seems to work like it should but I can't connect it to my computer, it will not show up and I need to copy the files to the CF card First time it said "CF card found installing drivers" but nothing more happening, same thing on my laptop. Do I need to format the CF card before I can use it??? It's a Kingston 16GB ultimate 266X
EDIT:after 5 minutes it show up but I can't access it or format, it seems to go in slowmotion. ??? maybe the CF adapter is crap, bought new from some Hong Kong store on ebay
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My CF Mod works perfectly...except for the fact that after I transfer files to my computer via USB and disconnect the drive it says "no partition found". I am not able to tun off the unit via the off button. At that point I just hit the reset button on the bottom of the unit and everything is fine, boots normally, etc.
Kinda frustrated me at first but I've gotten used to it. Love the CF Mod, great battery life and really no potential to lose the data from a HD failure.
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Has anyone had success with a SDHC / SD to CF Card Adapter like this one?
http://www.dx.com/p/extreme-sdhc-sd-to-cf-card-adapter-black-white-230774#.Vhkb52vGB8E
The Compact flash cards are much more expensive than SDHC/SDXC/MicroSD nowadays, so It would be great if it works.
I consider to "upgrade" to a Sony M10, not sure how much upgrade it would be, I really like the AGC Safety clip the iRiver has.. as I understand it don't work with M10?
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upgrade to an M10!! Way better device and can do 24bit.
Has anyone had success with a SDHC / SD to CF Card Adapter like this one?
http://www.dx.com/p/extreme-sdhc-sd-to-cf-card-adapter-black-white-230774#.Vhkb52vGB8E
The Compact flash cards are much more expensive than SDHC/SDXC/MicroSD nowadays, so It would be great if it works.
I consider to "upgrade" to a Sony M10, not sure how much upgrade it would be, I really like the AGC Safety clip the iRiver has.. as I understand it don't work with M10?
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I consider to "upgrade" to a Sony M10, not sure how much upgrade it would be, I really like the AGC Safety clip the iRiver has.. as I understand it don't work with M10?
The M10 has a limiter feature that, while not quite as cool as the iRiver's AGC safety, still helps to avoid clipping.
More to the point, though, as jbell says, the M10 does 24-bit, which allows you to set your levels way, way lower and still get the same audio quality. It's a worthwhile tradeoff.