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SBD > V3 > R-09 question
« on: September 01, 2007, 10:45:49 AM »
I may be purchasing a V3 and have a question about SBD patched. From what I understand, the V3 analog outputs are pretty hot. Would I have a problem going SBD > V3 > R-09 without an attenuators (knowing full well that the V3 provides a minimum 10dB gain as well)? Just curious, as I do a fair amount of SBD patching.

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Re: SBD > V3 > R-09 question
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2007, 01:14:34 PM »
I'd skip the V3 when running off the board. Unless you just absolutely love the sound it's just extra equipment....
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Re: SBD > V3 > R-09 question
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2007, 01:20:58 PM »
I've used my V3 many times for sbd patching, however always going digi out. Understanding the analog outs are hot though, I would say if the sound guy can't drop the levels a bit for you at the board, consider setting the internal input jumpers in the V3 to professional(-20db). That would give you some more headroom. Just remember to switch them back when you use mics again ;).
And, like Nick said, you certainly could just skip the V3 altogether, I used it for the A/D section primarily.

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Re: SBD > V3 > R-09 question
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2007, 02:09:19 PM »
Sounds unanimous to me. I was just thinking about sound colorization. Thanks for the replies!

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Re: SBD > V3 > R-09 question
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2007, 05:36:02 PM »
wouldn't keeping the V3 in there allow you to have, essentially, an adjustable attenuator? 

just turn the gain up enough to give the R-09 a reasonable level.

Although simply turning down the feed from the board would be a simpler solution...but I know sometimes you don't have the ability to do control that.


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Re: SBD > V3 > R-09 question
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2007, 09:11:18 AM »
wouldn't keeping the V3 in there allow you to have, essentially, an adjustable attenuator? 

just turn the gain up enough to give the R-09 a reasonable level.

Although simply turning down the feed from the board would be a simpler solution...but I know sometimes you don't have the ability to do control that.

I could be wrong, but I believe it'd be the exact opposite of an attenuator, i.e. even with the levels at 0 the V3's analog out adds 10db gain. If you need the extra 10db (and I can't imagine that'd be the case) you'd be better served just increasing the gain on the R09. In most scenarios you'd need an actual attenuator, making the V3 even more unnecessary.
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Re: SBD > V3 > R-09 question
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2007, 06:45:04 PM »
wouldn't keeping the V3 in there allow you to have, essentially, an adjustable attenuator? 

just turn the gain up enough to give the R-09 a reasonable level.

Although simply turning down the feed from the board would be a simpler solution...but I know sometimes you don't have the ability to do control that.

I could be wrong, but I believe it'd be the exact opposite of an attenuator, i.e. even with the levels at 0 the V3's analog out adds 10db gain. If you need the extra 10db (and I can't imagine that'd be the case) you'd be better served just increasing the gain on the R09. In most scenarios you'd need an actual attenuator, making the V3 even more unnecessary.

You could be very correct...
I've never used a V3, so I should probably keep my mouth shut regarding how it works.
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