Topic: looking for first cam - what to buy [bought the Canon ZR500]

[beefstew]

yeah i probably wont even use the mic-in on my cam anyway

ill do my mics to my hi-md
then ill dub it over the video later

then ya got 2 audio sources anyway

a very good way to do it, using the 'inferior' audio recorded from the built-in mics of the cam only as reference to syncronize.

Sometimes a good audio recording from the cam itself could be a real advantage for mixing in the edit, e.g. somebody says something funny/important asf., - a good mic on the cam still makes for a good additional audio source, a card or hypercard mono woud be enough for that!

yep and im planning on building a set of mics [Wm-61A] and build a battery box

so ill run the WM-61A's into DIY batt box into the Hi-MD
then ill run the SP-CMC-19s into the attenuator cable, into the mic-in on the cam
Then mix both audio sources together for the final DVD
it should sound nice

[beefstew]

here a guy posted samples of the Canon ZR-500
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/bbs/t131848.html

[kuuan]

the colours really are amazingly good!

your mom deserves a real big hug, a very good choice, what a nice gift!
You'll have lot's of fun with this little beast.

Do you have experience filming? If not, just remember: less zooming and less panning than you want. and than less again. and next time, yes less again. Finally the tripod arrives and almost no more filming without it...

make your own mics? good on you!
Wm-61A panasonic capsules..
and you figure they even will be better than the CMC-19s?
what's your exact plan?, any links?

25th and the canon arriving .
 

[beefstew]

your mom deserves a real big hug, a very good choice, what a nice gift!

ya she treats me good - she got me the SP-CMC-19s AND the Sony MZ-RH910 for my birthday

Wm-61A panasonic capsules..
and you figure they even will be better than the CMC-19s?

the SP-CMC-19 have a freq. response of up to 18000 - and the WM61 go up to 20000

what's your exact plan?, any links?

http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=11254&hl 

25th and the canon arriving .

ya i cant wait to test this bad boy out

[beefstew]

Im likin this new cam already 

the only complaint

if your recording in a quiet place, the internal mics pick up the sound of the camera's motor running, but that shouldnt be a problem for recording concerts

[kuuan]

Im likin this new cam already 

the only complaint

if your recording in a quiet place, the internal mics pick up the sound of the camera's motor running, but that shouldnt be a problem for recording concerts

yesss, finally, the cam is in your hands...
wish you much fun playing with it, but at least today don"t forget that there are family members around who want to have time with you...

onboard noise is a problem with any built-in mic, even of more expensive cams, not only of the motor, but also of handling the cam, e.g. using the zoom toggler asf. - so it could even be a problem recording concerts. Better to use external mics, and better not to use them attached to the cam. If attached to the cam use a shockmount, you can make one yourself easily with cheap PVC pipes.
( edit: took off the pics of the one I had made but gladly explain how to if interested )

enjoy!

BTW: just found a circuit for an electronic attenuation: http://www.electronics-lab.com/projects/audio/011/index.html

[beefstew]

heres a good recording i made with this cam a lil while ago

its my friend's band and the lighting in the place was atrocious! not only that there was orange and green lights on the bottom of each side and that was it - no light coming in the windows because it was 9:00 at night. but in my opinion the recording came out great for how bad the lighting was. also - the cam was new to me so i forgot to set the white balance =p oh well it came out good anyway

Oteli
Video: Canon ZR-500
Audio: SBD + Cam audio = Matrix

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-yPg4c5B0Kg