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What format do you use to store your recordings before processing?

(original) wav
39 (52%)
flac
29 (38.7%)
other (note below)
4 (5.3%)
I don't save mine
3 (4%)

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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2013, 05:21:14 PM »
CD-R's were never a problem.   The DVD-R's, however, were a nightmare.  I vowed to never do that again (but that was my experience).

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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2013, 07:02:59 PM »

My name is Datfly and I am an addict.  Hard drives are the only way for me twice.....
My Datfly Master HD's are in the back left. They contain the original wav. & a FLAC copy
on two 4TB HD's
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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2013, 07:44:54 PM »
Great googly moogly.    :o  :facepalm:

And I thought 8 externals was bad.

What do you use to index them? I found a program called Cathy Lister that is simple and gets the job done.
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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2013, 07:50:46 PM »
I keep the original wav and the flacs, I have a bunch of external storage so why not. As long as your organized the storage is limitless unless your short in money or room space, but drives are small.
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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2013, 09:05:20 PM »
I keep the original wav and the flacs, I have a bunch of external storage so why not. As long as your organized the storage is limitless unless your short in money or room space, but drives are small.


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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2013, 09:59:38 AM »
Mine are all in flac; raw 24 bit, and 16 bit edited files on two HDs, and backed up on DVD+Rs just to be on the safe side. after reading the comments on decoding problems, I'm changing to keeping raw 24 bit wav too. I used to just keep everything on DVDs, but I saw a story on TV about the problems they have at the Library of Congress regarding deteriorating CDs and DVDs; some of them you could clearly see through - like the clear plastic disc at the bottom of a spool.

Is anyone using solid state HDs?
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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2013, 01:54:26 PM »
I am running two identical and RAID 0 mirrored 12 TB towers that I put together (6 2TB Seagate Barracuda HD's) with USB3 for access and a SD card reader in the computer to move the files from my recorder to the outboard drive. I still have all my CDR's from the days of ripping DAT to CDR using an HHB800 that was done before the day of DVDR as backups. Everything new in the past 4+ years was on CF and now SD cards.  I keep both my 24 and 16 bit files indexed per folder of the show itself, in separate sub folders.  The Outboard towers I made can easily be disconnected and removed from the house in case of emergency.  It's one of the things I would try and save if the house was on fire ;)
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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2013, 02:46:13 PM »
for each show recorded i maintain two file folders: one for the raw master files, which i keep in original WAV format.  in the other folder i keep the processed 24 bit files in flac format.     

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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2013, 11:33:34 PM »

Is anyone using solid state HDs?

I store copies of my originals on both ssd's and portable hard drives kept in a safe deposit box-which I have outgrown.  I keep copies and edited files, flacs, etc on external HDs at home.  I once heard someone opine a file wasn't important to you if you didn't have more than one copy.

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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2013, 04:50:22 AM »
I keep the original wav files and I have the edited final (usually) tracked versions in flac.
Stored on internal and external hdd.
I dont have much space so Im just about to buy more externals, so everything would be on 2x externals.
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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2013, 05:34:40 AM »
I create an md5 of the wav masters.
I create flac files of the orginal wav files with ffp
I save all on a Raid 5 NAS (synology)

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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2013, 03:33:07 AM »
I save wavs and all edits ..
Is anyone storing masters on the cloud yet?
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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2013, 04:36:00 AM »
I have crates of externals like datfly's shelves.  Raw .wav, .flacs, .shns, video, etc

I am now taking my backup DVD spindles (FLAC/SHN) and loading it all onto a 20tb QNAP NAS for FTP, streaming, etc.
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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2013, 08:31:29 PM »
I am running two identical and RAID 0 mirrored 12 TB towers that I put together (6 2TB Seagate Barracuda HD's) with USB3 for access and a SD card reader in the computer to move the files from my recorder to the outboard drive. I still have all my CDR's from the days of ripping DAT to CDR using an HHB800 that was done before the day of DVDR as backups. Everything new in the past 4+ years was on CF and now SD cards.  I keep both my 24 and 16 bit files indexed per folder of the show itself, in separate sub folders.  The Outboard towers I made can easily be disconnected and removed from the house in case of emergency.  It's one of the things I would try and save if the house was on fire ;)
If a drive fails are you able to replace and mirror that single drive from your other tower or do you rebuild the entire 6 disk array?

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Re: How do you store your raw/master files?
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2013, 10:30:56 AM »
I am running two identical and RAID 0 mirrored 12 TB towers that I put together (6 2TB Seagate Barracuda HD's) with USB3 for access and a SD card reader in the computer to move the files from my recorder to the outboard drive. I still have all my CDR's from the days of ripping DAT to CDR using an HHB800 that was done before the day of DVDR as backups. Everything new in the past 4+ years was on CF and now SD cards.  I keep both my 24 and 16 bit files indexed per folder of the show itself, in separate sub folders.  The Outboard towers I made can easily be disconnected and removed from the house in case of emergency.  It's one of the things I would try and save if the house was on fire ;)
If a drive fails are you able to replace and mirror that single drive from your other tower or do you rebuild the entire 6 disk array?

There are two of these towers and they are mirrored.  If a drive fails, then I can replace it.  If there are more than one drive that could fail, I do have Seagate Outboard 1 and 2 TB drives I also keep as a backup to these as well, but they are only for backup storage.  I am all for backing it up and copying.  The advantage of the mirrored towers I made is that they run USB3 and eSATA, so my transfer speeds are pretty quick especially for streaming purposes between computers on my network at home.  The other drives I have I do not use for anything but storage. 

In about a year I will be looking at possibly updating the drives since they are getting old, but knock on wood, I have never had a prob with these.
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