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Re: Universal HD Player
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2007, 08:12:28 AM »
yes...that is what I meant.
we are talking decks, not signals.

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Re: Universal HD Player
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2007, 08:23:41 AM »
my question is...
are either of these HD formats that superior over a well upsampled 1080i/p output ?


They are 1080p content. 

If you're referring to broadcast television, then yes, they are superior.  HD on cable/satellite is compressed - think of it as the mp3 of the HD world. ;)

I get HD over the antenna for my locals...which is not compressed, and to date, nothing touches it...hell the local news broadcast (WRAL, the first to go HD all the time nationally from a local news broadcast angle) has the best picture I have ever seen..

I believe Nick is referring to upsampling players...such as the Oppo units....I recently bought a 981HD which upsamples to 1080p and the picture is freaking fantastic.  Is HD or BluRay better?  Maybe...but I have a library of normal DVDs that i have no intention on replacing and I am comfortable with my upsampling player until one of the formats goes the way of the minidisc

Depends on the channels.  Most OTA channels now have subchannels, which do take away bandwidth from the main channel and causes a loss of quality.  All of my locals do this, and from what I understand very few around the country do not.  If you have one of those channels, it should look comparable to a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. 

My DVD player is a Toshiba HD-D2, one of the best upsampling DVD players you can buy (and a great HD-DVD player to boot).  I can notice a drastic difference between HD and upconverted SD on my set, and it's only 720p.  A few movies I own look fantastic upsampled, though - particularly Pixar animated movies.  The Incredibles looks HD when it's upscaled. 

But for the most part, I can see a big difference which is why I made the jump to HD-DVD in the first place. 
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Re: Universal HD Player
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2007, 05:19:29 PM »
swinging off-topic (again) >>

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Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD Format War
Will Toshiba stop manufacturing HD-DVD machines by the end of 2009?

Two similar technologies-Blu-ray and HD-DVD-are vying to replace DVDs. Blu-ray has greater capacity: 50 gigabytes versus 30 for HD-DVD. More important, it has far more industry support. Toshiba is the only significant hardware company to fully back the HD-DVD format, while virtually every computer and consumer-electronics company supports Blu-ray. Blu-ray also has overwhelming film-industry support. Every major studio except Universal supports Blu-ray; just three support HD-DVD. (Two studios support both.) Combination Blu-ray/HD-DVD drives are also skewed toward Blu-ray. Pioneer's combo computer drive, for example, reads HD-DVD, but it reads and writes in Blu-ray, ensuring that people will use this format for archiving their data.

This proposition will pay off at POP$100 per share if Toshiba announces that it will cease production of HD-DVD players by December 31, 2009.
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Re: Universal HD Player
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2007, 06:57:50 AM »
After this holiday season people will start asking when Sony will stop making BluRay players.  Article means nothing. ;)
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Re: Universal HD Player
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2007, 10:35:00 AM »
After this holiday season people will start asking when Sony will stop making BluRay players.  Article means nothing. ;)

This is exactly why I want something that will play both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD... seems like both sides are being stubborn, but I would be too if I had invested so much in R&D.

As a consumer, I really don't want to care when I go buy a DVD what the format is.
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Re: Universal HD Player
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2007, 11:34:12 AM »
After this holiday season people will start asking when Sony will stop making BluRay players.  Article means nothing. ;)

This is exactly why I want something that will play both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD... seems like both sides are being stubborn, but I would be too if I had invested so much in R&D.

As a consumer, I really don't want to care when I go buy a DVD what the format is.

john is making stuff up here... if anybody ceases making a format next year, that format will be hd-dvd.  :o

those dual format players are a bit steep in price - i would check that forum i linked to over at avs if you are thinking of buying one.

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Re: Universal HD Player
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2007, 12:27:38 PM »
macdaddy's making stuff up here. ;)

In truth, neither format is going anywhere anytime soon.  Universal will NOT be going ... universal. ;)  Lionsgate probably will go neutral next year.  Most other studios will follow suit, except for Sony, Disney, and MAYBE Fox. 

The only people predicting an outright winner of this "war" are people who are rooting for a side so badly that they refuse to recognize the truth of the scenario - both formats CAN and will coexist together.  Just as SACD and DVD-Audio did.  This isn't VHS vs. Beta.
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