Holy shit, that sounds nifty 
...
EVERYONE should visit this thread and listen to some of that recordings, it would help a lot to change the general assumption that internal mics are always, invariably, shit.
Thanks LikeASong - for your kind words - they were also better than my expectations.
I did recognize that as a "good" recording - but obviously I am biased, and influenced by the performance.
Just a bit more detail on my recording - it was as one would expect - unattended and casual.
Being that close and somewhat paranoid about distortion - I started with the manual record levels at 0 -
that hardly moved the level meter when I finally checked (my recordings are unattended because I am there primarily to take photos).
So between songs I tapped up the levels to 4 which I thought still would still be safe....
The results - I split the file where I had changed the recording levels with Audacity -
then used Foobar2000 to apply RG (replay gain) to the two separated parts but as Album Gain (to the safe standard 89db ) -
first part with recording level = 0
Track gain : +18.09 dB
Track peak : 0.209270
Album gain : +18.09 dB
Album peak : 0.209270
That is massively low
The rest of the concert was at level = 4
Track gain : +11.86 dB
Track peak : 0.398529
Album gain : +11.86 dB
Album peak : 0.398529
That is still very low - but kind of acceptable - mainly because it was safe, and I was recording with 24 bit and that would have better/wider dynamic range than the standard 16 bits that I eventually convert to -
Both the sample tracks from the
Download folder were from this part of the recording.
It bears repeating what convinced me about the Teac VR-10 was the recording by member cd2go:
Terrific live recording by member cd2go using the VR-10 internals
linked in Reply #13 - from April 02, 2011 in thread
New Tascam DR-03 competes with zoom H1- cd2go's link to Archive.org (so it's free and legal)
http://www.archive.org/details/gpn2011-03-09.teacvr10.cd2go.flac24My logic on this was it only take one single great recording to prove the worth of any equipment -
any other inferior recording can then be put down to user error, circumstances, environment etc -
as it is not the equipment's fault - since it just proved itself by that one recording -
it would be impossible to make a good recording with truly poor equipment.
So on the evidence of cd2go's recording above -
is proof that the Teac VR-10 on internal mics is more than capable of making great recordings.
I realize there will be some who would say "happy accident" -
but if equipment was truly inadequate -
then even if all the stars aligned -
the recording would still be "inadequate" -
listen to the good recordings cited in this thread in particular that of cd2go
and decide for oneself.
Thanks
