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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #285 on: May 19, 2017, 06:28:47 PM »
Some MixPre audio samples uploaded here ...

https://www.sounddevices.com/products/recorders/mixpre-3/audio-samples

Very impressive samples!  Fellow pianist here, and I'm curious to know if you are playing on any or all of the C7 piano samples.  Excellent playing for the opening the Mephisto Waltz, but the Rachmaninov was a better recording with these mics in this space at the closer distance.  Would love to hear what the MixPre can do with a top quality set of omnis (Gefell M296, Josephson C617 or such) on a concert grand in a good hall.

Extremely low self-noise on these preamps also.  Very well done!

Yes - all the C7 samples were me - a bit ragged but thats what you get when you're unrehearsed and focussing on preamp recording. These were intentionally recorded raw and dry so you can easily hear preamps. I very much agree that it would be great to hear some top quality omnis on a grand in a concert hall -  I'll see if we can arrange something.

You're being very humble.  Speaking as a mainly classical guy, your Rachmaninov and Liszt performances were not at all ragged - really very nice playing.  I'm not as qualified to critique your jazz examples, but they sounded great also.

I completely understand the decision to record these tracks in a dry home acoustic, and it really does make the quality of the preamps very apparent.  I downloaded the tracks and the spectrograms confirmed the very quiet background.  This is how I record myself at home also (albeit on a Yamaha U1) so I was especially interested to hear these.

Thanks for posting these, and for all of the great info you've shared here.
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #286 on: May 19, 2017, 06:55:35 PM »

Thanks for posting these, and for all of the great info you've shared here.

You're welcome

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #287 on: May 20, 2017, 02:37:25 AM »
Second that ... Thanks, Paul, for dropping in and answering questions. Ordered the MP6 on Thursday.

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #288 on: May 20, 2017, 08:28:13 PM »
Paul, the Beethoven Medley is my favourite. I thought you managed to put a lot of heart into your playing, despite the session's focus on demonstrating the preamps.

Also, I liked the mic position on that one and on "Ethereal". They made the C7 sound like a totally different/better instrument than on "Dark Sustain" or "JazzyThang" where the piano sounded harsh and closed in. (I assume the mics were placed nearer on those than on the first two I mentioned.)

And let me add my thanks for all your patient replies to all the questions.

I had already placed my order for a MixPre-6 before hearing these samples, but they confirmed for me that it was the right decision -- regardless of the sad state of the Canuck buck!

And here's a mouth-watering picture from jwsoundgroup.net for those of us awaiting delivery...




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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #289 on: May 21, 2017, 02:25:03 PM »
B+H has the current availability at:

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Expected availability: Jun 7, 2017

I'm assuming that is if I order today (as opposed to when I ordered a few weeks ago and it said "End of May."

...really hoping to get this thing in my hands by TAB on 5/31, but I know it's likely I won't have it until Panic at Red Rocks (which at least leaves plenty of time to play with it...not that I expect it to be hard to figure out.

Anyone that ordered the first day get a shipping notification yet?
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #290 on: May 21, 2017, 04:28:25 PM »
Not yet and I would be shocked if I did.  Gotham sales told me they are only getting 4 in the first batch

B+H has the current availability at:

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Expected availability: Jun 7, 2017

I'm assuming that is if I order today (as opposed to when I ordered a few weeks ago and it said "End of May."

...really hoping to get this thing in my hands by TAB on 5/31, but I know it's likely I won't have it until Panic at Red Rocks (which at least leaves plenty of time to play with it...not that I expect it to be hard to figure out.

Anyone that ordered the first day get a shipping notification yet?
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #291 on: May 21, 2017, 07:41:42 PM »
I am quite interested to hear how good the Mixpre's preamps are compared to other SD devices and to the F8.  I am currently using a USBPre2 to feed the main pair of my F8, and using the stock F8 pres for other mics and board feeds.  I am awaiting the new portable Pueblo pre as well.  While I expect that the Mixpre's preamps will be better than those in the F8, it will be interesting if there is a significant audible difference compared to using a good outboard pre with the F8.  Of course, purely in the interest of portability, I may just need to pick up a Mixpre 6 as well. ;D
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #292 on: May 21, 2017, 08:15:44 PM »
Not yet and I would be shocked if I did.  Gotham sales told me they are only getting 4 in the first batch

I would assume SD will ship higher quantities based on the stores volume of sales...so B+H should get more than Gotham.

That being said, I would also expect that B+H really had no idea how many they would get in the first batch so they really didn't have an accurate way of pushing back the delivery date. I am planning on NOT getting mine when they said I would. :D
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #293 on: May 21, 2017, 09:22:55 PM »
i want a mixpre-6.  i know it's loaded with features (mostly that i don't need/use). 

but really, for what we/i do...  it's not much of an improvement over my Oade CM R-44.  I'm looking for eight powered XLR/TRS inputs for eight ISO channels.  I would totally buy a mixpre-6 if it had six.  those extra two (almost afterthought) channels aren't upping the ante for me.  i guess i can use those channels for a dedicated soundboard patch.  can you JUST use those two side channels only? 

that said, the convoluted way of distributing and controlling gain across those six channels also has me worried.  i'd like dedicated knobs for each channel as well.  if the unit is bigger because of it, so be it.

anyone care to sell me on the mixpre-6?
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #294 on: May 22, 2017, 03:11:22 PM »
good news my mixpre3 is on its way. they are not expecting the 8aa sled for another 2 wks but at least ill have the 4aa sled . plus i bought a usbc to usba cable .Location sound just called about 10 min ago and  gave me the good news.say they will ship it out today.

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #295 on: May 22, 2017, 03:52:09 PM »
^ great news, congrats.

Looks like Gotham got 4 of each:


https://twitter.com/GothamSound/status/866667614101221377/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gothamsound.com%2F


Unfortunately, I haven't been called yet so I probably wasn't one of them.

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #296 on: May 22, 2017, 04:11:09 PM »
Really hoping that in a future firmware update that these recorders will be able to synchronize in a master / slave kind of fashion.  I imagine that one master unit could send sample clock and transport commands over the HDMI cable.  I know there's no TC generator, but even having sync'd clocks and transport would be great for my needs.  Fingers crossed.

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #297 on: May 22, 2017, 05:12:00 PM »
Trew said they are getting enough to cover their earliest orders and mine should ship this week (Mixpre-6) ...
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #298 on: May 22, 2017, 05:51:40 PM »
Got my tracking notice from Gotham!
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #299 on: May 22, 2017, 05:58:35 PM »
Me too!  Thanks Ted

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