Topic: initial v3 thoughts!!!

[tadjblack]

V3=new school crack

[bush]

yeah tad...there's one on your list after sts9 the other night, am i wrong

[F.O.Bean]

hehehe, thanks guyz, it really is a great box

[marc0789]

interesting conversation today with a well-known respected retailer, who I will not identify, who cracked on the a/d stage in the v3 as I have. I love the v2, so in your face and transparent, the v3 a/d chip imo just does not do the job in preserving that sound. Bean, try a mod sbm1 or ad1k at the end, and see what I mean.

[heath]

that's why i'm still running the v2/ad1k combo....  

[Brian Skalinder]

I loved my V2 > modSBM-1 combo, but I obviously like my V3 better (duh, that's why I run it).    Both great choices, with different sonic characteristics.  If I didn't have the V3, I'd go back to V2 > modSBM-1.

And Bean (you already know this), pay no attention to Marc - you obviously know what your ears/brain like, so stick with it.  

[marc0789]

I loved my V2 > modSBM-1 combo, but I obviously like my V3 better (duh, that's why I run it).    Both great choices, with different sonic characteristics.  If I didn't have the V3, I'd go back to V2 > modSBM-1.

And Bean (you already know this), pay no attention to Marc - you obviously know what your ears/brain like, so stick with it.  

right as rain...but if you have easy access to a mod sbm1 or 1k, do a comparison....join me in gear slut hell, bean.  

[marc0789]

gear slut hell?

The gates of gear slut hell require a hazing into the world of high end playback systems! This game makes remote gear seem cheap!
Until then yer just a wee demon

sorry...bullshit, Moke. I don't need a 10k home stereo to tell me what I like and don't like.

[marc0789]

whoops, put me foot in my mouth, see what ya mean, Moke. And yeah, you're right....this 7k or so in my bag is nothing compared to what you can drop for the good home shit.  

[dmonterisi]

i think he was saying that gear sluttiness in road gear doesn't compare to how bad it would be once you start switching out components in a hi-end home playback system.  he wasn't making fun of you for listening in your car.  he was leaving that up to me.  

[marc0789]

 . I got that. hard to believe, me jumping the gun? I basically had to pick a passion. Can't afford the remote gear and top playback.

[plucks]

interesting conversation today with a well-known respected retailer, who I will not identify, who cracked on the a/d stage in the v3 as I have. I love the v2, so in your face and transparent, the v3 a/d chip imo just does not do the job in preserving that sound. Bean, try a mod sbm1 or ad1k at the end, and see what I mean.

The V3 AD chip is the same as the Apogee AD chip if i remember correctly.  The Apogee pre/gain stage is what makes the MiniMe have a completely different sound.  Some think it's chintzy sounding, others like it.  
Marc, maybe it's the combo of the Grace pre and the AD chip you're not a fan of.  The SBM1/AD1K with a V2 must be right up your alley?! What ever happened to your V3?  
I do think that the V2>AD1k/AD2k/SMB1 combo is real nice, but for 24bit, the choices are limited for what you can use down the road.  

Right on Bean!  Enjoy it...give it a whirl in 24bit if you can get the chance

Phil

[muj]

most high end converters use the same ad chips...i think they cost like 5 dollars or less.

[Tim]

So whats this I hear about a car sys?

Actually I cast pre-pitty for you should you ever venture into the playback world..... Way too many choices and combos! You'd go nuts!

he speaks the truth... I've been really, really well behaved and just recently starting adding some components... I can tell this problem is going to get worse long before it ever gets better!

[wboswell]

most high end converters use the same ad chips...i think they cost like 5 dollars or less.

Exactly!  What differentiates the units is the dither to 16 bit, not the chips.

This article about dither is pretty neat.  I think that I got it from a post here a while back.  Anyway, its exciting to think that you can by-pass this formula by staying 24bit, and getting closer to the ever elusive analog sound.