Author Topic: TC electonic "Konnect8" and "Konnect24" firewire interfaces? (Read 9694 times)

poorlyconditioned · « **on:** January 22, 2007, 12:18:47 AM »

I saw someone with a "TC Electronic" interface.

There are two varieties, Konnect8 (2 mic/line input) and Konnect24 (2 mic, 2 line).

They appear to have *standalone operation*. Also, ADAT, which looks cool.

Here is the user manual:
http://www.tcelectronic.com/media/Konnekt_US_1_5.pdf

Richard

Church-Audio · « **Reply #1 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:39:53 AM »

Quote from: poorlyconditioned on January 22, 2007, 12:18:47 AM

I saw someone with a "TC Electronic" interface.

There are two varieties, Konnect8 (2 mic/line input) and Konnect24 (2 mic, 2 line).

They appear to have *standalone operation*. Also, ADAT, which looks cool.

Here is the user manual:
http://www.tcelectronic.com/media/Konnekt_US_1_5.pdf

Richard

T.C Electronics is the shit. They make some of the best signal processors in the world check out the web site.

http://www.tcelectronic.com/ check out the system 6000 its is amazing to say the least.

These guys are a serious audio company they do not know how to make a bad product.

rowjimmy · « **Reply #2 on:** January 22, 2007, 01:23:10 PM »

I started a thread on these pre-release... decided to dial back my investment for the moment and I didn't get one (I was specifically eyeing the konnekt8) but I think I may yet go that route when I step up from the M-AudioFTP. They handle dc power or power via firewire, too, which is nice.

Here's the original thread:
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,70522.0.html

rowjimmy · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2007, 08:43:49 AM »

Has anyone else looked over this device, run one or read any recent reviews?
I maybe heading back into the market...

rowjimmy · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2007, 09:02:12 AM »

Update:
Had some time with Google this am:
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1437808
Detailed review that I haven't begun to get all the way through. The pics at the beginning are great, and it includes one of the guts! (http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=213970&d=1163451764)

http://radio.broadcastnewsroom.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=80330
That one is brief but favorable...

Gearslutz has a thread that gets going by around page 2: http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=83376

Ryan Sims · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2007, 09:40:40 AM »

This makes me happy. From the Harmony Central link you posted.

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So why is stand-alone mode useful? Well, TC probably had loftier apps in mind but I like being able to run the optical SPDIF from my CD player into the digital in

Also the fluffing of the pres is mighty nice too. This unit is looking good.

bluegrass_brad · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2007, 09:43:15 AM »

Also sounds like the A/D stage is pro level as well. A weak point in lots of the other smaller multi-tracking boxes.

rowjimmy · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2007, 10:44:44 AM »

I saw one guy on gearslutz who wasn't thrilled with the pres. He went mini-me > konnekt 8/24 (not sure which he had.)

Interesting choice on his part but, pre-amp reviews can be very subjective once you get past the pure numbers.

poorlyconditioned · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2007, 10:47:14 AM »

Quote from: rowjimmy on January 30, 2007, 10:44:44 AM

I saw one guy on gearslutz who wasn't thrilled with the pres. He went mini-me > konnekt 8/24 (not sure which he had.)

Interesting choice on his part but, pre-amp reviews can be very subjective once you get past the pure numbers.

I guess I would like to know about the circuit itself: Is it an opamp or discrete front end. (or something like INA103, etc). What are the supply voltages (+/-12 or 15V or something cheapo like +/-5V that Edirol uses). That kind of stuff.

Richard

rowjimmy · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2007, 10:54:13 AM »

TC E. makes much hype about the pres and the a/d stages being proprietary and hot shit. I can't find any detail about them, really. (other than published specs.)

this is a nice detail though:

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Those who saw the Onyx Satellite Pro Review may recall that one of the issues was phantom power being only 38V, so I measured the phantom power on the 24D when bus-powered: +49.1V on the nose, with no difference when using the AC adapter instead of bus power.

poorlyconditioned · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2007, 10:58:27 AM »

Quote from: rowjimmy on January 30, 2007, 10:54:13 AM

TC E. makes much hype about the pres and the a/d stages being proprietary and hot shit. I can't find any detail about them, really. (other than published specs.)

this is a nice detail though:
Quote
Those who saw the Onyx Satellite Pro Review may recall that one of the issues was phantom power being only 38V, so I measured the phantom power on the 24D when bus-powered: +49.1V on the nose, with no difference when using the AC adapter instead of bus power.

All I have to see is a closeup picture of the pres and a voltmeter and I could figure that out

. It is not rocket science.

Richard

Church-Audio · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2007, 11:10:32 AM »

Quote from: poorlyconditioned on January 30, 2007, 10:47:14 AM

Quote from: rowjimmy on January 30, 2007, 10:44:44 AM
I saw one guy on gearslutz who wasn't thrilled with the pres. He went mini-me > konnekt 8/24 (not sure which he had.)

Interesting choice on his part but, pre-amp reviews can be very subjective once you get past the pure numbers.

I guess I would like to know about the circuit itself: Is it an opamp or discrete front end. (or something like INA103, etc). What are the supply voltages (+/-12 or 15V or something cheapo like +/-5V that Edirol uses). That kind of stuff.

Richard

Here is a picture of the KONNEKT 24D interface. As you can see from the picture there aint a lot of junk inside this baby.... Here is a link to a forum that is talking about it and this is where I got the pictures from. http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1437808

Chris Church

rowjimmy · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2007, 11:44:25 AM »

Quote from: poorlyconditioned on January 30, 2007, 10:58:27 AM

Quote from: rowjimmy on January 30, 2007, 10:54:13 AM
TC E. makes much hype about the pres and the a/d stages being proprietary and hot shit. I can't find any detail about them, really. (other than published specs.)

this is a nice detail though:
Quote
Those who saw the Onyx Satellite Pro Review may recall that one of the issues was phantom power being only 38V, so I measured the phantom power on the 24D when bus-powered: +49.1V on the nose, with no difference when using the AC adapter instead of bus power.

All I have to see is a closeup picture of the pres and a voltmeter and I could figure that out . It is not rocket science.

Richard

For you.
I don't own a voltmeter.
I thought it was nice to see that someone had already taken the time to measure it.

poorlyconditioned · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2007, 01:55:39 PM »

Quote from: Church-Audio on January 30, 2007, 11:10:32 AM

Quote from: poorlyconditioned on January 30, 2007, 10:47:14 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 30, 2007, 10:44:44 AM
I saw one guy on gearslutz who wasn't thrilled with the pres. He went mini-me > konnekt 8/24 (not sure which he had.)

Interesting choice on his part but, pre-amp reviews can be very subjective once you get past the pure numbers.

I guess I would like to know about the circuit itself: Is it an opamp or discrete front end. (or something like INA103, etc). What are the supply voltages (+/-12 or 15V or something cheapo like +/-5V that Edirol uses). That kind of stuff.

Richard

Here is a picture of the KONNEKT 24D interface. As you can see from the picture there aint a lot of junk inside this baby.... Here is a link to a forum that is talking about it and this is where I got the pictures from. http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1437808

Chris Church

Thanks for the links, Chris. Certainly impressive build quality, and I suspect great circuitry too. I was reading that link waiting for a zoom-in on the preamp stage, but it did not happen. Those guys do get great marks for showing the innards though. Far and above what the usual reviewers do.

Well, many kind folks here have given me close ups of various stuff (Edirol R09, various pres, mic innards, etc). If anyone ever gets one of these, feel free to take some photos.

Thanks!
Richard

rowjimmy · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2007, 02:00:35 PM »

I'm about 90% on buying one in the next 2 weeks.

Church-Audio · « **Reply #15 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:06:13 PM »

Quote from: rowjimmy on January 30, 2007, 02:00:35 PM

I'm about 90% on buying one in the next 2 weeks.

You will not be disappointed, the built in effects might be a waste of time for you guys but, I assure you the sound quality will be top notch. I know of more then one mastering studio that has used the Finalizer product made by T.C as the final A-D converter for many a studio project to to mention there multiband compression. They make a good product.

Gutbucket · « **Reply #16 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:55:34 PM »

Anyone have thoughts on how these interfaces stack up compared with the MOTU (UltraLite/Traveler) and RME (Fireface400/800) gear, other than the obvious stuff like #'s of pre's, ins/outs, etc? More interested in sound quality, stability, etc. Not serious yet but thinking..

rowjimmy · « **Reply #17 on:** January 30, 2007, 09:06:44 PM »

After what I've read recently in Grateful Dead Gear about TC Electronic, I'm sold on this company;s pedigree. They definitely seem to be the real deal. I have done some drooling over their guitar gear of late, as well. (Though, as I'm primarily an acoustic player, I've no actual need.)

I think I'll be buying the konnekt8.

bluegrass_brad · « **Reply #18 on:** January 30, 2007, 09:17:37 PM »

I have used several of their delay and effects units when running live sound and really like them. Quality build for sure

rowjimmy · « **Reply #19 on:** February 02, 2007, 03:50:58 PM »

*ordered*

Church-Audio · « **Reply #20 on:** February 02, 2007, 04:08:50 PM »

Quote from: rowjimmy on February 02, 2007, 03:50:58 PM

*ordered*

You will like it let me know how things work out I am going to be ordering one of them very soon my self I just have to decide witch one.

Ryan Sims · « **Reply #21 on:** February 02, 2007, 05:30:21 PM »

I'd like to hear some sort of comp with the FastTrack Pro if that's possible. I'm very interested to hear this box. It's so appealing to me.

rowjimmy · « **Reply #22 on:** February 02, 2007, 06:48:58 PM »

I sold the Fast Track to partially finance the konnekt8, sorry.

Ryan Sims · « **Reply #23 on:** February 02, 2007, 08:43:22 PM »

That's cool. Really I'm just most interested in hearing this. +t for jumping first.

rowjimmy · « **Reply #24 on:** February 07, 2007, 08:35:19 AM »

Should be here today. I'll carve out some time this weekend at the latest to run some tests & take some pics.

LocoLako · « **Reply #25 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:31:04 PM »

I know that this is a really stupid question but I noticed that there is only 1 phantom power button.

Does that mean it can only power 1 condenser mic? Or does that turn phantom on for both ports?

rowjimmy · « **Reply #26 on:** February 07, 2007, 08:49:41 PM »

Not a stupid question.
The single button activates it for both ports. It's a fairly common thing until you get above the prosumer market...

rowjimmy · « **Reply #27 on:** February 12, 2007, 08:26:11 AM »

Finally got to play with this over the weekend, pics* and audio clips will be forthcoming later in the week...

*had some trouble getting inside, they use progressively smaller and smaller star bits on that thing... finally got down to the last two screws and "doh!" those are smaller than all the others! None of my bits fit

rowjimmy · « **Reply #28 on:** February 12, 2007, 09:54:29 PM »

Here's a little sample.
Recorded as follows:
Guitar mic'd with Superlux SMK-H8K cards > TC Electronic Konnekt8 > FW > Laptop > Reaper @ 24/96
Gain knobs vertical ~50% of available.

This clip is brief and, it turns out that I could have gone higher with the gain but it's clean...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/b50l76

I'll run some more soon and I'll see about those pictures, too.

Ryan Sims · « **Reply #29 on:** February 16, 2007, 11:46:38 PM »

I like the sample. This box is so tempting.

+T

rowjimmy · « **Reply #30 on:** February 19, 2007, 09:48:32 PM »

I'm gonna try and record a bit more tomorrow. Should have some time in the afternoon to push the levels a bit more.

Gizby · « **Reply #31 on:** February 20, 2007, 12:21:57 AM »

I'm really curious to see how this performs as a standalone at a proper concert. The price of the Konnekt 8 and a Hosa ODL-276 would be worth it.

rowjimmy · « **Reply #32 on:** February 20, 2007, 09:02:46 AM »

Doesn't the Microtracker (mentioned in your sig) take coax s/pdif? If so, with the MT you wouldn't need the HOSA.

That's one config I'm going to try this afternoon. konnekt8 > hosa odl-276 > jb3 @ 48/16
I don't have a spare battery for the konnekt8 yet so it'll still be on the wallwart but that should test the settings recall.

Gizby · « **Reply #33 on:** February 20, 2007, 03:06:57 PM »

Quote from: rowjimmy on February 20, 2007, 09:02:46 AM

Doesn't the Microtracker (mentioned in your sig) take coax s/pdif? If so, with the MT you wouldn't need the HOSA.

That's one config I'm going to try this afternoon. konnekt8 > hosa odl-276 > jb3 @ 48/16
I don't have a spare battery for the konnekt8 yet so it'll still be on the wallwart but that should test the settings recall.

You, sir, are right. It is coax. I failed to see that in your lineage. Thanks for correcting me. All the better, potentially. Here's to hoping it comes out well.