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Re: Sony 3000ES REVIEW
« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2005, 12:21:20 PM »
Nick:

I still believe that tweaking the phase shift settings on your 3000es could make a huge difference in its warmth.   My understanding is that this setting causes the 3000es to mimic the LF characteristics of a valve (tube) amp and will provide degrees of the tube roundness/warmth you're finding lacking.


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Re: Sony 3000ES REVIEW
« Reply #76 on: January 26, 2005, 12:53:53 PM »
phase shift???  How does this work?

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Re: Sony 3000ES REVIEW
« Reply #77 on: January 26, 2005, 04:19:11 PM »
phase shift???  How does this work?

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been trying to figure this out for a while now.
I must be deaf to this, as I can't hear anything between the settings.  nor has anyone else i've sat down and had listen and try to distinguish.

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Re: Sony 3000ES REVIEW
« Reply #78 on: January 26, 2005, 04:41:00 PM »
my vague recollection of this from an older post by doug oade (or was it the sony pdf re the technology used ??)???  was that tube equipment (and traditional analog transister gear) shift the phase of LF signals and that this is a part of what causes the warmer sound one hears on such gear.  The phase shift (if I recall) doesn't occur on the digital amp and was added as a dsp effect by sony to compensate (again, or so I recall)

Nick -- (assuming my recollection above is even close to the mark) perhaps because the phase shift is implemented as DSP it is bypassed when run in "pure" 2 channel mode -- have you tried running your 3000es in 2.1 mode (i.e. allowed dsp to function) when a/b'ing the effect of the phase shift? If not, perhaps that's why you can't hear it?

Given Doug's repeated urgings on this issue, this sounds quite ripe for some follow-up/clarification on Doug's end
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Re: Sony 3000ES REVIEW
« Reply #79 on: January 26, 2005, 06:46:01 PM »
Great info Darrin, keep us posted!
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Re: Sony 3000ES REVIEW
« Reply #80 on: January 27, 2005, 07:20:58 AM »
one thing i've noticed...when things are disabled in the menu system, they ar grayed out.  not so w/my current settings and this DC phase issue.  its active...so it must be working.  I've yet to get a good answer on Dougs forum, and i've asked this more than twice.

 

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