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Title: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: thebeaker on May 28, 2018, 03:38:27 AM
What do you guys prefer?

Mics clipped to head or at a collar?

Advantage for Head (Baseballcap etc) (in my opinion): Better Sound and less clapping
Advantage for collar (in my opinion): You can move your head.

Whats your technique? If open discussion is not wanted, please PM :)
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: yousef on May 28, 2018, 03:42:54 AM
Always head for me. The extra few inches seem to make a world of difference. But then I'm barely 5'7...
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: edtyre on May 28, 2018, 03:59:12 AM
Head=Good
Collar=Not Good

carry-on!
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: thebeaker on May 28, 2018, 08:35:30 AM
Ok one disadvantage about head: where to go with the cables from head to Recorder?
It is always visible for people standing behind you, except you wear a neckerchief or something similar.
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: goodcooker on May 28, 2018, 08:56:10 AM
Ok one disadvantage about head: where to go with the cables from head to Recorder?
It is always visible for people standing behind you, except you wear a neckerchief or something similar.

Use a little creativity?

Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: mfrench on May 28, 2018, 09:35:18 AM
WTF??

(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: gewwang on May 28, 2018, 09:44:34 AM
Ok one disadvantage about head: where to go with the cables from head to Recorder?
It is always visible for people standing behind you, except you wear a neckerchief or something similar.

Wear a collared shirt and use a backward trucker cap with the bill covering the space between the hair and the collar.
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: heathen on May 28, 2018, 09:56:39 AM
Helmet...
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: beatkilla on May 28, 2018, 02:36:58 PM
Grow your hair long enough to cover the wires.
Wear a wig?
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: Sebastian on May 28, 2018, 03:26:29 PM
I always have my gear under a hat.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d9/f4/4b/d9f44be36ce45547e56e3f849c9ee53f.jpg)
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: ycoop on May 29, 2018, 12:41:05 AM
WTF??

(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)

I *finally* get the Hoff references. Can’t believe it took me three months.
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: fanofjam on May 29, 2018, 03:04:02 AM
Your wang isn't a good mic stand, so I'd go with your collar.
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: ilduclo on May 29, 2018, 08:15:27 AM
Quit the NSFW shit
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: noahbickart on May 29, 2018, 08:20:33 AM
Quit the NSFW shit

quit the stealth discussion in public and the hoff stays hidden.....
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: ilduclo on May 29, 2018, 09:39:03 AM
noah, go back to your ark
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: noahbickart on May 29, 2018, 09:50:22 AM
noah, go back to your ark

It was only a few months ago that a manager for a music venue created a login here and started asking how people concealed their gear.

Feel free to make a post asking for advice over pm.

Otherwise, prepare for the hoff.
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: rocksuitcase on May 29, 2018, 10:10:16 AM
noah, go back to your ark

It was only a few months ago that a manager for a music venue created a login here and started asking how people concealed their gear.

Feel free to make a post asking for advice over pm.

Otherwise, prepare for the hoff.
^^^^^^^This.
Although we generally need to agree/comprehend that newbies may be legitimately seeking information, we also need to be able to explain to said newbies why this is such a "hot topic" here.
To the OP, I suggest looking at the many other threads which correspond with this one, and then "read with your third eye" to determine which gear or advice meets the needs of your recording situation. Also, if you lurk here at least 3-4 months, it is relatively easy to note who or which tapers are doing the most work and what type of music they post (and where they post it). Again, reading with your third eye, they might be the types to ask questions of via PM.
I have found in many, but not all situations the head can be advantageous over the collar, but whose head and whose collar?
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: rigpimp on May 29, 2018, 11:44:57 AM
My wife and I went to downtown Sacramento for beers at Fieldwork this weekend.  As we were walking through midtown I looked over and said "Is that a David Hasselhoff shirt you are wearing?"  Shit if she wasnt wearing some tight bad ass Hoff shirt with Knight Rider across it.  She went on and on about the crush she used to have on him as a little girl.  I meant to take a pic.

Collar is nice as you don't have to keep your head still but I always use my hat.
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: Gordon on May 29, 2018, 11:58:25 AM
noah, go back to your ark

It was only a few months ago that a manager for a music venue created a login here and started asking how people concealed their gear.

Feel free to make a post asking for advice over pm.

Otherwise, prepare for the hoff.

Damn I missed that!
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: MakersMarc on May 29, 2018, 12:15:03 PM
Quit the NSFW shit

quit the stealth discussion in public and the hoff stays hidden.....

👍
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: analogguru on May 29, 2018, 01:16:36 PM
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Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: ycoop on May 29, 2018, 01:56:42 PM
noah, go back to your ark

If Noah’s going back to his ark that doesn’t bode well for us.
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: robeti on May 29, 2018, 05:42:26 PM
Head. Always.

Cables are no problem.

Seriously. If cables are a problem, you better stop stealthing.

Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: noahbickart on May 29, 2018, 11:51:21 PM
this is absurd. stop please.
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: daspyknows on June 01, 2018, 09:16:50 AM
Just stick your recorder on the lip of the stage and use internals.   :iamwithstupid:
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: gormenghast on June 01, 2018, 12:06:44 PM
“So I rigged up the inside of a basketball that I cut in half, with all the gear laid out inside and taped down, buttons up, and I had a girlfriend who’d strap this on under a puffy blouse and go in pretending to be pregnant! We had wires snaked up the arms to lavalier [clip-on] mikes on her shoulders, or on either side of a hat that I rigged up. She went to the bathroom, turned it on in the stall, walked back out to the front and we were taping!"

The good ol' days...

Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: heathen on June 01, 2018, 12:15:19 PM
That is a seriously cool girlfriend.
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: Gutbucket on June 01, 2018, 12:58:45 PM
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Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: bombdiggity on June 04, 2018, 07:12:19 PM
I suggest the offenders be forced to listen to this:

Torrent  #620323  David Hasselhoff (Yes, it's true - it's The Hoff!!) - Oberhausen, Germany, König-Pilsener-Arena - 2018-04-25 - Master

I couldn't even make it through the samples... 
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: audBall on June 04, 2018, 07:54:28 PM
It's usually best to draw an imaginary line between your head and your anus and then place the mics as far along that line away from the anus as possible.
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: robeti on June 06, 2018, 04:08:56 PM
I suggest the offenders be forced to listen to this:

Torrent  #620323  David Hasselhoff (Yes, it's true - it's The Hoff!!) - Oberhausen, Germany, König-Pilsener-Arena - 2018-04-25 - Master

I couldn't even make it through the samples...

Only in Germany.... haha  :cheers:
Title: Re: Stealth: Collar vs "Head"
Post by: mfrench on June 07, 2018, 11:44:30 PM
I drive through Funner, Cal., on a regular basis, just for the heck of it.  Its about 10 miles east of us, out hwy. 76, and is Rincon Band Tribal Land (I think Rincon?).
They made the Hoff the mayor of their town, Funner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=vJ4NH3UvLYs