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quick ihp-120 question
« on: February 02, 2007, 04:36:33 PM »
tonight i am going to be taping my very first show with my iriver ihp-120, church audio 9000 preamp and mics and i have been testing out my rig at home and have noticed a few things.

One is that right when the recording starts, and the hard disc is spinning, i can hear it in the recording for like 5 seconds or so, then it goes away. I have not really recorded for more than like a minute or two so far, but it seems like during an hour show, the hard disc needs to spin, thus, creating the noise on the recording. This is just something i am guessing would happen, am i totally wrong?

Also, the band i am taping (Sparklehorse) plays mostly quiet songs, but some louder ones as well, if i keep my levels a bit lower, knowing that the louder songs will be coming up, should i be able to raise the volume on my computer in post without much distortion? I mean, is it really important to have my levels as high as they can without clipping, or is it okay if they are a bit lower.

thanks!

josh

PS the show is in like 5 hours so please reply before then! but if not, its cool, thanks anyway.

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Re: quick ihp-120 question
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2007, 04:41:30 PM »
Damn, you got a few things to consider in 5 hours.  First, have you installed rockbox?  Second, you should NOT be hearing harddrive noise when recording.  Make sure you are not recording from the internal mic, that sounds like what is happening. 

It is ok to have the levels lower, but not ideal. For you first time out it might be the way to go
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Re: quick ihp-120 question
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2007, 04:55:50 PM »
yeah, i have rockbox installed, i'm at work right now, but i will do a few more test recordings, it might have been on internal mic on accident.

I hope i get an okay recording tonight, wish me luck! Also, if anyone has any tips at all that might help me out for my first time recording a show, i would really appreciate it.

the hardest part for me is, no clapping, tapping my foot, or singing along... haha, i can do it though.

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Re: quick ihp-120 question
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2007, 05:02:30 PM »
yeah, i have rockbox installed, i'm at work right now, but i will do a few more test recordings, it might have been on internal mic on accident.

I hope i get an okay recording tonight, wish me luck! Also, if anyone has any tips at all that might help me out for my first time recording a show, i would really appreciate it.

the hardest part for me is, no clapping, tapping my foot, or singing along... haha, i can do it though.

I'd say, get the idea that you are going to make a perfect recording, your first time, out of your head. If it turns out perfect, that's great, but you don't need that pressure on top of everything else.

The Rockboxed iHP-120 is great. Once you get it figured out it gets much easier. Stay conservative with your levels at first and adjust them so the loudest parts don't clip.

Good luck. Let us know how it turns out.
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Re: quick ihp-120 question
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2007, 02:21:23 AM »
well im back, looks like my first recording ended up turning out pretty good, well at least to me. I got my levels set pretty good, and the only bad thing that happened was during the encore, some guy was squeezing through everyone, and he started to fall on me so i pushed him back, and he yells "F&#k You" right by my mics pretty loud, oh well.

thanks for all the help guys.

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Re: quick ihp-120 question
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2007, 03:07:35 PM »

Congrats on a successful first time out.

I'm running pretty much the exact same set-up and have been real happy with the results.  I've found that if I set the iriver gain at zero then crank the pre-amp all the way with the switch set to +10 dB I'll get a good recording with plenty of headroom for post-work.  I usually give the finished recording a 4-6 dB bump overall in Soundforge and that's it.  Oh yeah, I also turn off the iriver's AGC, because anything loud enough to clip in that setup is usually just someone screaming in my mic and I don't want the base levels screwed up because of something like that.  I can adjust volumes pretty easily in Soundforge to mitigate screams and whatnot.

I've used that same method for everything from loud punk shows to quiet acoustic sets without problems.
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Re: quick ihp-120 question
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2007, 09:13:39 PM »
tonight i am going to be taping my very first show with my iriver ihp-120, church audio 9000 preamp and mics and i have been testing out my rig at home and have noticed a few things.

One is that right when the recording starts, and the hard disc is spinning, i can hear it in the recording for like 5 seconds or so, then it goes away. I have not really recorded for more than like a minute or two so far, but it seems like during an hour show, the hard disc needs to spin, thus, creating the noise on the recording. This is just something i am guessing would happen, am i totally wrong?

Also, the band i am taping (Sparklehorse) plays mostly quiet songs, but some louder ones as well, if i keep my levels a bit lower, knowing that the louder songs will be coming up, should i be able to raise the volume on my computer in post without much distortion? I mean, is it really important to have my levels as high as they can without clipping, or is it okay if they are a bit lower.

thanks!

josh

PS the show is in like 5 hours so please reply before then! but if not, its cool, thanks anyway.

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Re: quick ihp-120 question
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2007, 10:23:53 AM »
... some guy was squeezing through everyone, and he started to fall on me so i pushed him back, and he yells "F&#k You" right by my mics pretty loud, oh well.

thanks for all the help guys.
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Re: quick ihp-120 question
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2007, 12:37:57 AM »
tonight i am going to be taping my very first show with my iriver ihp-120, church audio 9000 preamp and mics and i have been testing out my rig at home and have noticed a few things.

One is that right when the recording starts, and the hard disc is spinning, i can hear it in the recording for like 5 seconds or so, then it goes away. I have not really recorded for more than like a minute or two so far, but it seems like during an hour show, the hard disc needs to spin, thus, creating the noise on the recording. This is just something i am guessing would happen, am i totally wrong?

Also, the band i am taping (Sparklehorse) plays mostly quiet songs, but some louder ones as well, if i keep my levels a bit lower, knowing that the louder songs will be coming up, should i be able to raise the volume on my computer in post without much distortion? I mean, is it really important to have my levels as high as they can without clipping, or is it okay if they are a bit lower.

thanks!

josh

PS the show is in like 5 hours so please reply before then! but if not, its cool, thanks anyway.

hey josh - did you enjoy bill baird & acoustic alchemy at that show?  i saw bb / aa last night at the peacock and damn that was good.  i didn't expect bill's whole posse to show up, but 11 guys having fun on stage was such a great show.  i've never seen so many guitars played at once! 

 

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